Re: [qubes-users] Re: Passthrough

2016-11-27 Thread Drew White
On Friday, 25 November 2016 23:36:42 UTC+11, Desobediente  wrote:
> In the settings tab on the qubes manager you could passthrough almost 
> everything. For example, if you passthrough the video card, your screen will 
> black out.

I don't want to pass through the device from dom0 to the guest, I jsut want 
everything that the guest sees to be the physical device that is faked to be as 
it really is. Not remove it from dom0 and everything else, because that would 
mean that qubes would stop working because the device isn't shared.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Passthrough

2016-11-25 Thread Salmiakki
On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 1:36:42 PM UTC+1, Desobediente wrote:
> As for these checking algorithms, everything can be faked, 

Not really pertinent to this discussion but PUFs: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_unclonable_function

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Passthrough

2016-11-25 Thread Desobediente
In the settings tab on the qubes manager you could passthrough almost
everything. For example, if you passthrough the video card, your screen
will black out.

As for these checking algorithms, everything can be faked, which implies
the very idea of checking the system is broken because you can run your
"system checking" software everywhere you want to, because with
virtualization, you can tell the operating system whatever you want to.

Modern and clever software for checking COULD bypass some things, what
would require you to recompile qubes/xen to apply more aggressive means to
fool the windows guest.

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[qubes-users] Re: Passthrough

2016-11-25 Thread Salmiakki
On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 12:55:27 AM UTC+1, Drew White wrote:
> Is there any way that I can pass through all real hardware specifics to the 
> guest to make it not think it's running under xen? (primarily Windows)

It depends on what exactly is used as input to creating this device identifier 
but it's extremely unlikely that you will be able to pass through all the 
necessary devices. You might be able to fake some of it, though. There is no 
support from qubes except for PCI passthrough.

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[qubes-users] Re: Passthrough

2016-11-25 Thread raahelps
On Thursday, November 24, 2016 at 6:55:27 PM UTC-5, Drew White wrote:
> Is there any way that I can pass through all real hardware specifics to the 
> guest to make it not think it's running under xen? (primarily Windows)

what? lol

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