Re: [qubes-users] Re: Spontaneous rebooting

2019-05-16 Thread google 

On 2019-05-14 11:33, goo...@subvertising.org wrote:

calling unman et al. : what systems are sporting 60+
days uptime?


according to unman, the i7 X230 does not reboot spontaneously.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Spontaneous rebooting

2019-05-14 Thread google 

On 2019-05-13 22:27, Michael Siepmann wrote:

On 4/19/19 12:45 AM, Jon deps wrote:

On 4/13/19 8:01 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote:

 
On 4/13/19 12:28 PM, Chris wrote:

Hello Michael,

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Friday, April 12, 2019 3:24 PM, Michael Siepmann
 wrote:


On 8/10/18 12:37 PM, Kelly Dean wrote:


Am I the only one having a problem with Qubes spontaneously
rebooting on Intel hardware? Only other reports I see are about
AMD problems, but I'm using an Intel Core i3.

Happens every few weeks. Sometimes just 1 or 2 weeks, sometimes 5
or 6. Got it on Qubes 3.2, and now 4.0 too (new installation, not
upgrade), multiple times.

Unlikely to be a hardware problem. The system passed both
memtest86 and a multi-day mersenne prime stress test. And other
OSes tested on this hardware before I switched to Qubes, including
Debian and Windows, never had a problem.

The rebooting seems completely random. No apparent trigger, and no
warning. Acts like an instant hard reset. Sometimes even when the
system is idle, and I haven't touched the console for hours.

It's wearingly inevitable enough that I don't even bother
intentionally rebooting after system updates anymore, in order to
minimize how many reboots I have to deal with (setting my
workspace back up is an ordeal), because I know the system will
end up spontaneously rebooting a week or two later anyway.


I'm having this problem too. I hadn't had it for a while but in the
past week or so it's happened a few times. I have a Lenovo ThinkPad
T440p with Intel Core i7, and Qubes 4.0 which I keep updated.



I had this problem which was due to Intel AMT Control being enabled 
in

the BIOS. Since turning this off my system has not rebooted.

Regards,

Chris

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Chris Willard
chris-houdeaah+1aqdljmjb2...@public.gmane.org




Thanks for the suggestion, Chris. I appreciate it. I checked and 
Intel
AMT was already disabled so I guess something else must be causing it 
in

my case.




and what does
#journalctl -r   say if anything ?


In a dom0 terminal if I type "journalctl -r" I see a lot of info.
Anything in particular I should look for?


for instance if your machine spontaneously rebooted sometime between 
2019-05-13 23:30 and 2019-05-14 you could issue:


journalctl --since "2019-05-13 23:30" --until "2019-05-14" -p debug 
--no-pager | grep Reboot --before-context 42


this will output the final 42 log entries just before your machine 
rebooted.
i'm stuck with the same issue (as i described here 
https://www.mail-archive.com/qubes-users@googlegroups.com/msg28344.html 
) and my guess is you won't find anything useful in logs. anyway, i feel 
your pain. calling unman et al. : what systems are sporting 60+ days 
uptime?


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Spontaneous rebooting

2019-05-13 Thread Michael Siepmann 

On 4/19/19 12:45 AM, Jon deps wrote:
> On 4/13/19 8:01 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote:
>>  
>> On 4/13/19 12:28 PM, Chris wrote:
>>> Hello Michael,
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>>> On Friday, April 12, 2019 3:24 PM, Michael Siepmann
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 On 8/10/18 12:37 PM, Kelly Dean wrote:

> Am I the only one having a problem with Qubes spontaneously
> rebooting on Intel hardware? Only other reports I see are about
> AMD problems, but I'm using an Intel Core i3.
>
> Happens every few weeks. Sometimes just 1 or 2 weeks, sometimes 5
> or 6. Got it on Qubes 3.2, and now 4.0 too (new installation, not
> upgrade), multiple times.
>
> Unlikely to be a hardware problem. The system passed both
> memtest86 and a multi-day mersenne prime stress test. And other
> OSes tested on this hardware before I switched to Qubes, including
> Debian and Windows, never had a problem.
>
> The rebooting seems completely random. No apparent trigger, and no
> warning. Acts like an instant hard reset. Sometimes even when the
> system is idle, and I haven't touched the console for hours.
>
> It's wearingly inevitable enough that I don't even bother
> intentionally rebooting after system updates anymore, in order to
> minimize how many reboots I have to deal with (setting my
> workspace back up is an ordeal), because I know the system will
> end up spontaneously rebooting a week or two later anyway.
>
 I'm having this problem too. I hadn't had it for a while but in the
 past week or so it's happened a few times. I have a Lenovo ThinkPad
 T440p with Intel Core i7, and Qubes 4.0 which I keep updated.

>>>
>>> I had this problem which was due to Intel AMT Control being enabled in
>>> the BIOS. Since turning this off my system has not rebooted.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> -
>>> Chris Willard
>>> chris-houdeaah+1aqdljmjb2...@public.gmane.org
>>> 
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, Chris. I appreciate it. I checked and Intel
>> AMT was already disabled so I guess something else must be causing it in
>> my case.
>>
>>
>
> and what does
> #journalctl -r   say if anything ?
>
In a dom0 terminal if I type "journalctl -r" I see a lot of info.
Anything in particular I should look for?


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[qubes-users] Re: Spontaneous rebooting

2019-04-18 Thread Jon deps 

On 4/13/19 8:01 PM, Michael Siepmann wrote:
  


On 4/13/19 12:28 PM, Chris wrote:

Hello Michael,

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Friday, April 12, 2019 3:24 PM, Michael Siepmann
 wrote:


On 8/10/18 12:37 PM, Kelly Dean wrote:


Am I the only one having a problem with Qubes spontaneously rebooting on Intel 
hardware? Only other reports I see are about AMD problems, but I'm using an 
Intel Core i3.

Happens every few weeks. Sometimes just 1 or 2 weeks, sometimes 5 or 6. Got it 
on Qubes 3.2, and now 4.0 too (new installation, not upgrade), multiple times.

Unlikely to be a hardware problem. The system passed both memtest86 and a 
multi-day mersenne prime stress test. And other OSes tested on this hardware 
before I switched to Qubes, including Debian and Windows, never had a problem.

The rebooting seems completely random. No apparent trigger, and no warning. 
Acts like an instant hard reset. Sometimes even when the system is idle, and I 
haven't touched the console for hours.

It's wearingly inevitable enough that I don't even bother intentionally 
rebooting after system updates anymore, in order to minimize how many reboots I 
have to deal with (setting my workspace back up is an ordeal), because I know 
the system will end up spontaneously rebooting a week or two later anyway.


I'm having this problem too. I hadn't had it for a while but in the
past week or so it's happened a few times. I have a Lenovo ThinkPad
T440p with Intel Core i7, and Qubes 4.0 which I keep updated.



I had this problem which was due to Intel AMT Control being enabled in
the BIOS. Since turning this off my system has not rebooted.

Regards,

Chris

-
Chris Willard
chris-houdeaah+1aqdljmjb2...@public.gmane.org 




Thanks for the suggestion, Chris. I appreciate it. I checked and Intel
AMT was already disabled so I guess something else must be causing it in
my case.




and what does
#journalctl -r   say if anything ?

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