[qubes-users] Re: TOR browser updates.

2018-11-21 Thread jean-henri via qubes-users
brendan.hoar wrote on Tue, 20 November 2018 13:41
> I currently avoid dist-upgrade and stick with upgrade.
> But YMMV.
> 
> With that said, it's important to keep cloned copies of
> all your templates a few update versions back...just in
> case. Can be difficult to recover a botched upgrade once
> sys-net won't work any more. :)

Any particular reason? It has been the way I did
updates/upgrades since Qubes 3.2 (I am using Qubes 4 now)
and I can't recall any problems so far. I can't recall why I
do it this way anymore either, it just became a habit.

Thanks for your explanation, I did not know the details. And
thanks @Patrick Schleizer for the new documentation page,
it's much appreciated.

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[qubes-users] Re: TOR browser updates.

2018-11-20 Thread brendan . hoar
On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:29:04 AM UTC-5, Антон Чехов wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 3:39:24 AM UTC+1, William Fisher wrote:
> > How do I update the TOR browsers at the Template VM level? I've updated TOR 
> > at the APP level but it doesn't stay updated.
> 
> I updated my template-vm (whonix-gw-14, whonix-ws-14 and sys-whonix) this 
> week via console (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) and the 
> latest TOR browser was downloaded. 

I currently avoid dist-upgrade and stick with upgrade. But YMMV.

With that said, it's important to keep cloned copies of all your templates a 
few update versions back...just in case. Can be difficult to recover a botched 
upgrade once sys-net won't work any more. :) 

> I started a disposable whonix-vm and checked (help -> about tor browser) the 
> version and it was 8.0.3 which should be the latest.
> Starting anon-whonix-vm was not updated (8.0) but tor-browser did download 
> the latest version upon opening it (help -> about tor browser) and it stays 
> updated.

The explanation for the different behaviors is that, unlike most software in 
the templates, TB is stored in the private volume (in ~/.tb). When updated in 
the template, the template's private volume receives the new TB version.

- DVMs are always started with a temporary copy of the parent template's 
current private volume. Hence the DVM automatically used the apt-get upgraded 
~/.tb dir from the template.

- AppVMs keep their own separate (non-updating) private volume after being 
created, so they do not inherit the template's update to ~/.tb. However once 
you update TB in the AppVM, since it resides in the private volume, it will 
remain updated after AppVM restarts.

Brendan

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[qubes-users] Re: TOR browser updates.

2018-11-19 Thread 'Антон Чехов' via qubes-users
On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 3:39:24 AM UTC+1, William Fisher wrote:
> How do I update the TOR browsers at the Template VM level? I've updated TOR 
> at the APP level but it doesn't stay updated.

I updated my template-vm (whonix-gw-14, whonix-ws-14 and sys-whonix) this week 
via console (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) and the latest 
TOR browser was downloaded. 

I started a disposable whonix-vm and checked (help -> about tor browser) the 
version and it was 8.0.3 which should be the latest.
Starting anon-whonix-vm was not updated (8.0) but tor-browser did download the 
latest version upon opening it (help -> about tor browser) and it stays updated.

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