Re: [qubes-users] Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 01:10:36PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Demi Marie Obenour writes: > > > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? > > Doesn't it also break DMARC? I remember that was a big fight 5 or so > years ago to get all of the mailing list software to do something that > was compatible with DMARC because all messages that came through > mailling lists from a source that enabled DMARC to a MTA that enforced > DMARC were bouncing. I suspect Google Groups deals with the problem by mangling the `From:` header where necessary. That reminds me: Marek, should Qubes OS have p=reject? - -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEdodNnxM2uiJZBxxxsoi1X/+cIsEFAmIqg3gACgkQsoi1X/+c IsFswRAA3X9KucHeAu7p+6TspfWScVrfyCRQ6lgcBiYG7PAoqk1My8LtogGJR2O2 BSYJPVPZCiI8/rN2XPwyeN9iihbaCUgN9IQoaSQXBQJO9z1obr7q4VErBQOEyK86 VqAKHk2VrMbJ2GTJ6mA31xAmQruPGzaYAxfMZmgA4bvs8spm36U6ANbSpxqjvz6R QDnqQ1+nN35qcwYLyvCi4J9LojcPW26mrc12BAdqlgpZq9qfs7PzflR+EJBaH20E gVU81VFmR7T5dnVAdVYoBgAA468T+JKqg1fGXRZr72dry5WOUxAsByGXtlkOYoPy BAJA81N1Uto4qUGIaCcpyYXp8eK+vGhKUXYkJbE0y3NSKWzGPNFUQAce+0lBu/TQ 0riuasJtFUD/EaCpVo6vByJlIoSmjbMSQbn/z08CeUYQMOK76sFV9Ox9VmNJOozg qy8yiPDRFSKacTQnkjsg21qg6aAC2reei3dJt3tx4cN6f63uu8x8qYoSYBxmXOQ8 tf2jJe+O1QN1JhG47HOucbjfoal96ZDxdxyY2zsSDXnLkYug5XJGW86Iw/p/aFJx +jttydCAaaF/d3Cw7Ip8a7+m0hTC0dtdChoRXdCLKWuKB2xNgWHr6ztxOcMBzg/Z wK6OC/FVGHRS4cAOFaIEuUhawtO+O4zFeKKv6pKvnx/cZSmYgf0= =tOeR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YiqDeKK2USDTg1Eh%40itl-email.
Re: How to use "inline PGP"? (was: Re: [qubes-users] Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:35:24PM +0100, Peter Funk wrote: > Hello, > > Demi Marie Obenour wrote Wednesday, 09.03.2022 16:33: > > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 04:25:11PM -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > > > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > > > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? > > > > Looks like Google mangles the message in other ways, too. In my case, > > the charset is changed from us-ascii to UTF-8, and the > > Content-Transfer-Encoding header is removed, with the `=20` at the end > > of one line being replaced by a space. So the only solutions are either > > inline PGP or to switch list hosting solutions. > > Where can I learn, how to use inline PGP (GPG) properly in my messages? > I use 'mutt' as my preferred MUA. Use ‘p’ to select the PGP menu, then select “inline format” and “sign”. - -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEdodNnxM2uiJZBxxxsoi1X/+cIsEFAmIqguQACgkQsoi1X/+c IsE4mBAAzByF24lzF5vheGsxTG65DB4XykyJgrdFRjEmO7SzfwxMDGTpiMqxq/Ly l+oYzBDB4thUx/qv23i+67hx14WiVDHU8VQFfSh0Q1DiWEHv3WOzX7zz1GF3QE3p Zv8ZATYaWIBlO8PonbnH3w2ZNjBUFOxsbEBBoCq6mYD7QCractKfxcpCf8XZKaFX v+rJgVNDA8yBPpWIrZzstSY2blm9nB2EA2Ly6eiB8g0L4ID+13GXwx9HEAnTTL7G quh9A1MnEmnJrpJBBUhrfIW7GM6qzMQtfksxRbIo3+oZUlnOfkDgsVA6JzxjZuW7 kQWHt0ZIJ77xyqPgGODUZF1IsTbOSC5kYyAkb/3l/whTDLtD/2F8nPZ8kgC0EY3z 0YG1nTQYbzOpKxcYZIQM6dZJPTbFKvLzq97HZabHhLDhvY+KF+v1AUxcSacWM3hm jkx/VOrrJU8x6TwxomxaXY2bEueq7RB6a1XHkQfE/v/0jFqxNLt+qvisTrV2DbU2 vSFDv/6mePJV+/MKYlMjwfQfNMNRtjEMJnWlI0dGqtSJ+ZGCXZc3IF63v+6S7txA b9ywfj/2m4tz66Y6VLqntv5SmQ+71BwIp4P3jFw30Gg5dPxhcEncp8LrMFebEI1W L+C57TW+QpF2vaab25KMw22uFdYSzVQBryfcpNoTvIpZwqW/+cU= =gZeP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YiqC5K7DPkIjniOa%40itl-email.
Re: [qubes-users] Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
Demi Marie Obenour writes: > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? Doesn't it also break DMARC? I remember that was a big fight 5 or so years ago to get all of the mailing list software to do something that was compatible with DMARC because all messages that came through mailling lists from a source that enabled DMARC to a MTA that enforced DMARC were bouncing. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/87v8wl4o9f.fsf%40email.froward.int.ebiederm.org.
How to use "inline PGP"? (was: Re: [qubes-users] Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?)
Hello, Demi Marie Obenour wrote Wednesday, 09.03.2022 16:33: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 04:25:11PM -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? > > Looks like Google mangles the message in other ways, too. In my case, > the charset is changed from us-ascii to UTF-8, and the > Content-Transfer-Encoding header is removed, with the `=20` at the end > of one line being replaced by a space. So the only solutions are either > inline PGP or to switch list hosting solutions. Where can I learn, how to use inline PGP (GPG) properly in my messages? I use 'mutt' as my preferred MUA. Best regards, Peter Funk -- Peter Funk ✉:Oldenburger Str.86, 2 Ganderkesee, Germany; 📱:+49-179-640-8878 homeoffice ☎:+49-4222-950270 office ✉: ArtCom GmbH, Haferwende 2, D-28357 Bremen, Germany; ☎:+49-421-20419-0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YinifIFO9rwL2%2BK3%40arbeit. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [qubes-users] Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 04:25:11PM -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? Looks like Google mangles the message in other ways, too. In my case, the charset is changed from us-ascii to UTF-8, and the Content-Transfer-Encoding header is removed, with the `=20` at the end of one line being replaced by a space. So the only solutions are either inline PGP or to switch list hosting solutions. - -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEdodNnxM2uiJZBxxxsoi1X/+cIsEFAmIpHTwACgkQsoi1X/+c IsHSmRAAw2exmoy38TFa+ZzBtAOl0qhxt5DlVRYN8ery1xODhN9tHG5ZBDAV4JdA hbMHhVZmMOVufb3SFVCGYBukiIuLSValNAeCMr1Ml6Dmfi3wONg5HWIvP9JVcrL0 29EXuFvAah8IpsS+kjti9f0opVY8XUFNgk6TpetMkt1B250P0IdLdK4qPHzXYlR/ O+VW7mWeVk6R803n+oWlHIyMQn8nJr0fN6QaMNqKs7iRY/Wl8GrKd0VSiYN5G+2n QQAXKPeBLmAwz4mBvGVlm7ulpttoksHjFXsDCCylFjWGpCrGhTJCKyRmaVrtyWBW 4oeXgmOBI8N1w9NqQ11fQPSyAbgaIQ8hU8YMV5XeOusGmYCquU2u/SswBPwPFt8c KqPvcnsxOL41cWTh5Z6MDtxd6X1HKf2RXzAAM1yJLOwXa54BA1Ybc/2dSWkRtp1U PvNrgJxl46SsBnzme6lTjm7yZ88I7iAcPbNl55e6PnjuvimIcqidiprCFyWFC9ox YsokpkzKbng39NY+UeS7nVBSSZe4oXaABkAxN8iMlv1kcjyHYnYxdUIJF0rdUmks Q1RB275a21Y17h+1qpr+ppfp9qRZn4Kz0NPhqDV9yhhzmCmohXnFB6aJ49iy6uYJ Py/JnUhfErKq42QlQ2qLV90xLnsK8gJMNVOGYuW2KUwHDGzFnBg= =XAap -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YikdPNrxf0twDLSq%40itl-email.
[qubes-users] Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its benefits outweigh the drawbacks? -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YikbOpUqba2VOTiY%40itl-email. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
