Re: [qubes-users] Two newbie questions (qubes 4.0)
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:42:43PM +, 'Modprobe' via qubes-users wrote: > I'm pretty new too, but I can answer #1. I'd like to do #2 as well, and you > can get started by making a qube and booting it from a disk image, but I > didn't get much further than that. I wasn't able to successfully install a > distro in the vm. > > As to question 1, the package managers use one of the other vms (the firewall > by default, I think) via an http proxy for network access. Check out > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-vm/#updates-proxy for more info > Original Message > On Oct 17, 2018, 8:48 AM, wrote: > > > Eventually my questions are stupid and show a bad understanding of the > > whole qubes thing, but nonetheless I will ask them, because I could not > > answer them by myself (googleing, etc.) > > > > 1) The template VMs have no network connection at all, but "dnf" can > > capture rpm's. How does is work? Like in Dom0 by "qubes-dom0-update"? > > > > 2) Is there any way to start a whole VM (regardless if TemplateVM or AppVM) > > in one window? > > > > Explanation: If I start e.g. firefox in Domain "Work" the start of the VM > > "Work" and its X-Window System is hidden to me and I will see only the > > resulting "firefox-window" and so on. Is there a way to see the "whole VM" > > in one window where I can see how the VM starts and which ends up in the > > VM's full X Window System. (Call it a Virtualbox-like start if you want) > > > > 3) AppVMs deviate only by its home and /usr/local folder from the > > TemplateVM. How is it possible to achieve different configurations in /etc > > for AppVMs based on the same template? (E.g. how stores sys-net the > > connections in "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections"?) > > > > 4) Is there any reason why nautilus is preferred over thunar? I am asking > > because it has another look and feel than xfce? > > > > Thanks in advance for answering one or more of these questions. > > > > Regards > > Penkpanda Hi Penkpanda Welcome to Qubes. 1. Template vms access the proxy server via rpc. There's a listener at 127.0.0.1:8082 (set in /etc/apt/apt-conf.d/01qubes-proxy) The Updates Proxy is set in /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy You can edit that file so use different proxies for different templates. If you have many Debian templates (and you should), you can install a caching proxy like apt-cacher-ng in a qube, and then configure the file to use THAT qube for updates. Makes updates blindingly fast. 2. You can do this with HVMs. (Windows, BSD, Linux all work fine.) That gives you the full vbox experience. Qubes is designed NOT to work like that. 3. Look in /rw/bind-dirs in sys-net: bind-dirs allows you to store different configurations per qube: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/bind-dirs/ Some individual settings are set in /etc/ when the qube is booted. 4. As a matter of policy Qubes favours Gnome applications. If you dont like it dolphin is fully supported. If you want to use thunar then there was a script posted in qubes-devel last year which provided qubes functions from thunar. cheers unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20181017160925.lqp4vkffehxptdpk%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Two newbie questions (qubes 4.0)
I'm pretty new too, but I can answer #1. I'd like to do #2 as well, and you can get started by making a qube and booting it from a disk image, but I didn't get much further than that. I wasn't able to successfully install a distro in the vm. As to question 1, the package managers use one of the other vms (the firewall by default, I think) via an http proxy for network access. Check out https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-vm/#updates-proxy for more info Original Message On Oct 17, 2018, 8:48 AM, wrote: > Eventually my questions are stupid and show a bad understanding of the whole > qubes thing, but nonetheless I will ask them, because I could not answer them > by myself (googleing, etc.) > > 1) The template VMs have no network connection at all, but "dnf" can capture > rpm's. How does is work? Like in Dom0 by "qubes-dom0-update"? > > 2) Is there any way to start a whole VM (regardless if TemplateVM or AppVM) > in one window? > > Explanation: If I start e.g. firefox in Domain "Work" the start of the VM > "Work" and its X-Window System is hidden to me and I will see only the > resulting "firefox-window" and so on. Is there a way to see the "whole VM" in > one window where I can see how the VM starts and which ends up in the VM's > full X Window System. (Call it a Virtualbox-like start if you want) > > 3) AppVMs deviate only by its home and /usr/local folder from the TemplateVM. > How is it possible to achieve different configurations in /etc for AppVMs > based on the same template? (E.g. how stores sys-net the connections in > "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections"?) > > 4) Is there any reason why nautilus is preferred over thunar? I am asking > because it has another look and feel than xfce? > > Thanks in advance for answering one or more of these questions. > > Regards > Penkpanda > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "qubes-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c914c7e1-e651-43d2-9249-6654b1934bad%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1GCrewRn0ZpW7Em7woU-sfKn9W27oClrNRZYsURsaU7X04lynT91aF1Q0zqoU_R9_aY6-qof9HyXNgUuKOGaH45RI-iE0n_-LTyvo3Xju-k%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Two newbie questions (qubes 4.0)
Eventually my questions are stupid and show a bad understanding of the whole qubes thing, but nonetheless I will ask them, because I could not answer them by myself (googleing, etc.) 1) The template VMs have no network connection at all, but "dnf" can capture rpm's. How does is work? Like in Dom0 by "qubes-dom0-update"? 2) Is there any way to start a whole VM (regardless if TemplateVM or AppVM) in one window? Explanation: If I start e.g. firefox in Domain "Work" the start of the VM "Work" and its X-Window System is hidden to me and I will see only the resulting "firefox-window" and so on. Is there a way to see the "whole VM" in one window where I can see how the VM starts and which ends up in the VM's full X Window System. (Call it a Virtualbox-like start if you want) 3) AppVMs deviate only by its home and /usr/local folder from the TemplateVM. How is it possible to achieve different configurations in /etc for AppVMs based on the same template? (E.g. how stores sys-net the connections in "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections"?) 4) Is there any reason why nautilus is preferred over thunar? I am asking because it has another look and feel than xfce? Thanks in advance for answering one or more of these questions. Regards Penkpanda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c914c7e1-e651-43d2-9249-6654b1934bad%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
