Re: [qubes-users] can I use paranoid mode from a 3.2 backup?

2017-12-26 Thread cooloutac
On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 8:40:08 PM UTC-5, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki 
wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:35:26AM -0800, cooloutac wrote:
> > Thinking of upgrading to 4.0.
> > if I want to restore vms from 3.2, possibly compromised, system.  Can I use 
> > the paranoid restore mode in 4.0,  or would that only work from 4.0 backup.
> 
> This isn't properly documented yet. The general idea is to restore the
> backup using some dedicated VM (maybe even disposable VM), instead of
> dom0. See here: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2017/06/27/qubes-admin-api/#sandboxed-paranoid-backup-restores
> In the section "Simple management VM demo", you can find required steps
> to setup qrexec policy to allow such operation.
> 
> Our previous tests weren't very successful:
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2986
> 
> But things have improved since then and hopefully(*) it works now.
> 
> (*) which reminds me to add automated test for this case of backup
> too...
> 
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> Best Regards,
> Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
> Invisible Things Lab
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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tks when I get a chance I'll give it a shot.

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Re: [qubes-users] can I use paranoid mode from a 3.2 backup?

2017-12-23 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:35:26AM -0800, cooloutac wrote:
> Thinking of upgrading to 4.0.
> if I want to restore vms from 3.2, possibly compromised, system.  Can I use 
> the paranoid restore mode in 4.0,  or would that only work from 4.0 backup.

This isn't properly documented yet. The general idea is to restore the
backup using some dedicated VM (maybe even disposable VM), instead of
dom0. See here: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2017/06/27/qubes-admin-api/#sandboxed-paranoid-backup-restores
In the section "Simple management VM demo", you can find required steps
to setup qrexec policy to allow such operation.

Our previous tests weren't very successful:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2986

But things have improved since then and hopefully(*) it works now.

(*) which reminds me to add automated test for this case of backup
too...

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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[qubes-users] can I use paranoid mode from a 3.2 backup?

2017-12-20 Thread cooloutac
Thinking of upgrading to 4.0.
if I want to restore vms from 3.2, possibly compromised, system.  Can I use the 
paranoid restore mode in 4.0,  or would that only work from 4.0 backup.

Tks in advance.

rich.

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