Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
thank you unman. I tried to use it as sys-net, but 1) network-manager did not start on boot 2) when starting it by hand, I got the impression that the network-manager data is stored elsewhere under debian than under fedora - to the effect that I lost all saved wireless connections! Is there an easy way to cure that? Bernhard Andrew has quite correclty pointed out the complete absence of any documentation on how to use the debian-9-minimal template. I'll try to remedy this soon. In the meantime you could follow the guidelines for using the fedora-minimal template. (Apologies if you've already done this.) Remark: I did manage to run debian-minimal as sys-usb that way (let me mention that the required package qubes-proxy is not mentioned in the online DOC! this is the same for fedora-minimal and debian-minimal ). That did not work exactly the same for sys-net, since NetworkManager-wifi will be called network-manager under debian I guess that is the one I need? Are there other packages to be added ?? dejavu-sans-fonts does not seem to exist under debian Is it really needed? Of course I added firmware for my wireless chipset. The wireless connection information is actually stored under /rw/config , so it wont be lost.(Check it's there) Yes, it is there, no worries. In Debian, Network manager information is held under /etc/NetworkManager, which is, I would have thought, the same as Fedora. maybe you're right and the problem is somewhere else. I re-bootet sys-net with debian-minimal, and here is what I see (no clue what it means, though). Any ideas? Bernhard root@sys-net:~# service network-manager status ● NetworkManager.service - Network Manager Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Drop-In: /lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service.d └─30_qubes.conf Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Tue 2019-02-05 12:00:59 AEDT; 45s ago Docs: man:NetworkManager(8) Process: 568 ExecStartPre=/usr/lib/qubes/network-manager-prepare-conf-dir (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) Feb 05 12:00:58 sys-net systemd[1]: Failed to start Network Manager. Feb 05 12:00:58 sys-net systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Unit entered failed state. Feb 05 12:00:58 sys-net systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Feb 05 12:00:59 sys-net systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Service hold-off time over, scheduling restart. Feb 05 12:00:59 sys-net systemd[1]: Stopped Network Manager. Feb 05 12:00:59 sys-net systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Start request repeated too quickly. Feb 05 12:00:59 sys-net systemd[1]: Failed to start Network Manager. Feb 05 12:00:59 sys-net systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Unit entered failed state. Feb 05 12:00:59 sys-net systemd[1]: NetworkManager.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. root@sys-net:~# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1d1dd534-b97d-34cb-0339-c1001f9c1796%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
On Tue, Feb 05, 2019 at 11:34:24AM +1100, haaber wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 04:47:44PM +1100, haaber wrote: > > > Hello, does someone know if the debian-9-minimal template is pre- or > > > post- APT-vulnerability? Is it being "maintained" as well as debian-9 > > > itself? Thank you, Bernhard > > > > > > > > > > The debian-9-minimal template in the templates-itl-testing repository > > (201901271906) is post-APT vuln. > > It is maintained in precisely the same way as debian-9 itself. > > > thank you unman. I tried to use it as sys-net, but > 1) network-manager did not start on boot > 2) when starting it by hand, I got the impression that the > network-manager data is stored elsewhere under debian than under fedora > - to the effect that I lost all saved wireless connections! > > Is there an easy way to cure that? Bernhard Andrew has quite correclty pointed out the complete absence of any documentation on how to use the debian-9-minimal template. I'll try to remedy this soon. In the meantime you could follow the guidelines for using the fedora-minimal template. (Apologies if you've already done this.) The wireless connection information is actually stored under /rw/config , so it wont be lost.(Check it's there) In Debian, Network manager information is held under /etc/NetworkManager, which is, I would have thought, the same as Fedora. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190205004243.u3cfklfh26colrrk%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 04:47:44PM +1100, haaber wrote: Hello, does someone know if the debian-9-minimal template is pre- or post- APT-vulnerability? Is it being "maintained" as well as debian-9 itself? Thank you, Bernhard The debian-9-minimal template in the templates-itl-testing repository (201901271906) is post-APT vuln. It is maintained in precisely the same way as debian-9 itself. thank you unman. I tried to use it as sys-net, but 1) network-manager did not start on boot 2) when starting it by hand, I got the impression that the network-manager data is stored elsewhere under debian than under fedora - to the effect that I lost all saved wireless connections! Is there an easy way to cure that? Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e860c549-c5cd-6eaf-827d-5cde2b00d4a9%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 04:47:44PM +1100, haaber wrote: > Hello, does someone know if the debian-9-minimal template is pre- or > post- APT-vulnerability? Is it being "maintained" as well as debian-9 > itself? Thank you, Bernhard > > The debian-9-minimal template in the templates-itl-testing repository (201901271906) is post-APT vuln. It is maintained in precisely the same way as debian-9 itself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190205003051.qrtxfivfjbksy34f%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
Hello, does someone know if the debian-9-minimal template is pre- or post- APT-vulnerability? Is it being "maintained" as well as debian-9 itself? Thank you, Bernhard On 1/12/19 2:25 AM, Zrubi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 1/10/19 1:14 AM, unman wrote: If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal template currently available in itl-testing. would you mind sending the output of dpkg -l Thanks. - -- Zrubi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEmAe1Y2qfQjTIsHwdVjGlenYHFQ0FAlw4tUMACgkQVjGlenYH FQ1fHxAAvX0dEOvzgAOP3vi+pTFNwtqJjfQmxZAINo6gcg5P4zK+ZezBXyLANYhZ fkCrRVMVJfWn3RsxyC6IHMTuOF3lcswi74kUpMOE+hmRt6hNoOxdNcWIs83Wbw5w J/+g1Nb2T2zjqFk8AkTSmx0ynXXL96/J+zwtPyMwSo2fhxS24TpEV/iL5L05vsLU k/bLFOmKplAQLXiU9QRibMDX1CC6nlWoL+HtFhY1DKlF51eq0o7ROHc8cR2fXqZN 4l/fyYumJMfFytOmQbCkeyNZbwfpCbCTShsTE4WIczZw6p/OlFjDAiZu+g4jVZne k4yBSBPwlWkKlSHfN4v6HrsQSCtM1sSqrnQvcnIao0qCp+rVMOYWr8brP/HQICm7 6bSdmFumUSpzXenKQBkdUFftvamFYBcBorzeArVWgfh9RPjEuI7XkwLnU0FgYjBL B6zkFnPVb260bawjFp2n313h8XnDzHl/sxDwoVSZjq9sDAi8PTTqP2/fM63HMDhJ fcsR0DXlrPDvOk2F1mpXK6mqMtqqJCHqubtxS92Gih4bJRd7CszyrabfZe5vEqKR GVzIsFV3rGXdtjQlTq7D0T87QylTEVVe4w5WoqBCcWW0vNL6ycUUve/D9AsrP9jb VAoqHSX6dbcgL0XVO1frxTNlEdKo6cAJIGNKvfD6TKN1U5jxxIA= =2GJk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3f2dc8d1-9bae-b5d3-27f8-cefbc434938b%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 04:25:00PM +0100, Zrubi wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 1/10/19 1:14 AM, unman wrote: > > If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal > > template currently available in itl-testing. > > would you mind sending the output of > dpkg -l > > Thanks. > - -- > Zrubi Of course: acl 2.2.52-3+b1 adduser 3.115 adwaita-icon-theme 3.22.0-1+deb9u1 amd64-microcode 3.20160316.3 apt 1.4.8 apt-listchanges 3.10 apt-transport-https 1.4.8 apt-utils1.4.8 aptitude 0.8.7-1 aptitude-common 0.8.7-1 aspell 0.60.7~20110707-3+b2 aspell-en2016.11.20-0-0.1 at-spi2-core 2.22.0-6+deb9u1 avahi-daemon 0.6.32-2 base-files 9.9+deb9u6 base-passwd 3.5.43 bash 4.4-5 bash-completion 1:2.1-4.3 bc 1.06.95-9+b3 bind9-host 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3+deb9u4 binutils 2.28-5 bsdmainutils 9.0.12+nmu1 bsdutils 1:2.29.2-1+deb9u1 busybox 1:1.22.0-19+b3 bzip21.0.6-8.1 ca-certificates 20161130+nmu1+deb9u1 colord 1.3.3-2 colord-data 1.3.3-2 console-setup1.164 console-setup-linux 1.164 coreutils8.26-3 cpio 2.11+dfsg-6 cpp 4:6.3.0-4 cpp-66.3.0-18+deb9u1 crda 3.18-1 cron 3.0pl1-128+deb9u1 cryptsetup 2:1.7.3-4 cryptsetup-bin 2:1.7.3-4 cups 2.2.1-8+deb9u2 cups-browsed 1.11.6-3 cups-client 2.2.1-8+deb9u2 cups-common 2.2.1-8+deb9u2 cups-core-drivers2.2.1-8+deb9u2 cups-daemon 2.2.1-8+deb9u2 cups-filters 1.11.6-3 cups-filters-core-drivers1.11.6-3 cups-pk-helper 0.2.6-1+b1 cups-ppdc2.2.1-8+deb9u2 cups-server-common 2.2.1-8+deb9u2 dash 0.5.8-2.4 dbus 1.10.26-0+deb9u1 dbus-user-session1.10.26-0+deb9u1 dbus-x11 1.10.26-0+deb9u1 dconf-cli0.26.0-2+b1 dconf-gsettings-backend:amd640.26.0-2+b1 dconf-service0.26.0-2+b1 debconf 1.5.61 debconf-i18n 1.5.61 debian-archive-keyring 2017.5 debian-faq 8.1 debianutils 4.8.1.1 debugedit4.12.0.2+dfsg1-2 desktop-file-utils 0.23-1 dh-python2.20170125 dictionaries-common 1
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 1/10/19 1:14 AM, unman wrote: > If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal > template currently available in itl-testing. would you mind sending the output of dpkg -l Thanks. - -- Zrubi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEmAe1Y2qfQjTIsHwdVjGlenYHFQ0FAlw4tUMACgkQVjGlenYH FQ1fHxAAvX0dEOvzgAOP3vi+pTFNwtqJjfQmxZAINo6gcg5P4zK+ZezBXyLANYhZ fkCrRVMVJfWn3RsxyC6IHMTuOF3lcswi74kUpMOE+hmRt6hNoOxdNcWIs83Wbw5w J/+g1Nb2T2zjqFk8AkTSmx0ynXXL96/J+zwtPyMwSo2fhxS24TpEV/iL5L05vsLU k/bLFOmKplAQLXiU9QRibMDX1CC6nlWoL+HtFhY1DKlF51eq0o7ROHc8cR2fXqZN 4l/fyYumJMfFytOmQbCkeyNZbwfpCbCTShsTE4WIczZw6p/OlFjDAiZu+g4jVZne k4yBSBPwlWkKlSHfN4v6HrsQSCtM1sSqrnQvcnIao0qCp+rVMOYWr8brP/HQICm7 6bSdmFumUSpzXenKQBkdUFftvamFYBcBorzeArVWgfh9RPjEuI7XkwLnU0FgYjBL B6zkFnPVb260bawjFp2n313h8XnDzHl/sxDwoVSZjq9sDAi8PTTqP2/fM63HMDhJ fcsR0DXlrPDvOk2F1mpXK6mqMtqqJCHqubtxS92Gih4bJRd7CszyrabfZe5vEqKR GVzIsFV3rGXdtjQlTq7D0T87QylTEVVe4w5WoqBCcWW0vNL6ycUUve/D9AsrP9jb VAoqHSX6dbcgL0XVO1frxTNlEdKo6cAJIGNKvfD6TKN1U5jxxIA= =2GJk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/00c61ea1-e080-40dd-e35b-f57d20d82845%40zrubi.hu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 06:33:13PM +0100, 799 wrote: > Hello, > > Am Do., 10. Jan. 2019, 01:15 hat unman > geschrieben: > > > If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal template > > currently available in itl-testing. > > You can install it: > > qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-template-itl-testing > > qubes-template-debian-9-minimal > > > > Short question regarding the templates in testing: > Are those templates also build by the Qubes team and therefore reasonable > trustable or how is the process that a package finds its way into the > testing repo? > > Also when will a package move from testing to stable? > > I'm always interested at the minimal packages I like to build my personal > templates from a lean template. > > - O Templates in testing, like packages, are built as part of the build infrastructure. -for an idea of this see https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3935 Authorised users can trigger builds of templates which will be placed in testing. So the packages in testing are as trustable as any other package produced by Qubes. Authorised users can trigger movement to stable "when it's ready". In case of debian minimal I'll watch out for comments, but as I've been using it myself for some time with no issues it will probably appear in stable pretty soon. unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190110234725.u6smqkgt2wi2uuc7%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:50:04 AM UTC, unman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 07:43:41PM -0800, seshu wrote: > > On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 12:30:11 AM UTC, unman wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:14:59AM +, unman wrote: > > > > If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal template > > > > currently available in itl-testing. > > > > You can install it: > > > > qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-template-itl-testing > > > > qubes-template-debian-9-minimal > > > > > > > > The template is a little smaller than stock stretch, and somewhat > > > > leaner. To get root you'll need to use 'qvm-run -u root xterm'; > > > > install qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root (and polkit) if you want > > > > that feature. > > > > > > Forget the polkit. Dont know what I was thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any comments or suggestions for debian minimal post them > > > > here. > > > > There's no documentation as yet, but the Fedora-minimal guide should > > > > come > > > > in handy. > > > > > > > > Enjoy > > > > > > > > unman > > > > When I tried the link you mentioned. I get an error message that says the > > repo is unknown? > > > > I've doubled checked spelling etc. > > > > I misspoke: it should be templates, not template: > qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-itl-testing > qubes-template-debian-9-minimal Thanks unman, that did the trick. I appreciate you putting together this template also! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8f9785b2-9128-4242-b0c7-e3921f25e908%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
Hello, Am Do., 10. Jan. 2019, 01:15 hat unman geschrieben: > If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal template > currently available in itl-testing. You can install it: > qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-template-itl-testing > qubes-template-debian-9-minimal > Short question regarding the templates in testing: Are those templates also build by the Qubes team and therefore reasonable trustable or how is the process that a package finds its way into the testing repo? Also when will a package move from testing to stable? I'm always interested at the minimal packages I like to build my personal templates from a lean template. - O -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAJ3yz2sjPbq%3D1NtBkJa4ZkXJ3JntE191bAW_TM3fT1%3Dus0FKBQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 07:43:41PM -0800, seshu wrote: > On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 12:30:11 AM UTC, unman wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:14:59AM +, unman wrote: > > > If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal template > > > currently available in itl-testing. > > > You can install it: > > > qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-template-itl-testing > > > qubes-template-debian-9-minimal > > > > > > The template is a little smaller than stock stretch, and somewhat > > > leaner. To get root you'll need to use 'qvm-run -u root xterm'; > > > install qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root (and polkit) if you want > > > that feature. > > > > Forget the polkit. Dont know what I was thinking. > > > > > > > > If you have any comments or suggestions for debian minimal post them here. > > > There's no documentation as yet, but the Fedora-minimal guide should come > > > in handy. > > > > > > Enjoy > > > > > > unman > > When I tried the link you mentioned. I get an error message that says the > repo is unknown? > > I've doubled checked spelling etc. > I misspoke: it should be templates, not template: qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-itl-testing qubes-template-debian-9-minimal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190110115001.qtofxmmu46jmkmhh%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 12:30:11 AM UTC, unman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:14:59AM +, unman wrote: > > If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal template > > currently available in itl-testing. > > You can install it: > > qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-template-itl-testing > > qubes-template-debian-9-minimal > > > > The template is a little smaller than stock stretch, and somewhat > > leaner. To get root you'll need to use 'qvm-run -u root xterm'; > > install qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root (and polkit) if you want > > that feature. > > Forget the polkit. Dont know what I was thinking. > > > > > If you have any comments or suggestions for debian minimal post them here. > > There's no documentation as yet, but the Fedora-minimal guide should come > > in handy. > > > > Enjoy > > > > unman When I tried the link you mentioned. I get an error message that says the repo is unknown? I've doubled checked spelling etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ab10f789-57ba-4c3e-b27d-483989a5e5ce%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:14:59AM +, unman wrote: > If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal template > currently available in itl-testing. > You can install it: > qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-template-itl-testing > qubes-template-debian-9-minimal > > The template is a little smaller than stock stretch, and somewhat > leaner. To get root you'll need to use 'qvm-run -u root xterm'; > install qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root (and polkit) if you want > that feature. Forget the polkit. Dont know what I was thinking. > > If you have any comments or suggestions for debian minimal post them here. > There's no documentation as yet, but the Fedora-minimal guide should come > in handy. > > Enjoy > > unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190110003008.xgubprjthq2bcn3t%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Debian minimal template
If any one is interested there's a prebuilt debian-9-minimal template currently available in itl-testing. You can install it: qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-template-itl-testing qubes-template-debian-9-minimal The template is a little smaller than stock stretch, and somewhat leaner. To get root you'll need to use 'qvm-run -u root xterm'; install qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root (and polkit) if you want that feature. If you have any comments or suggestions for debian minimal post them here. There's no documentation as yet, but the Fedora-minimal guide should come in handy. Enjoy unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190110001459.4zjw4r4r5lvng7q7%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] debian minimal
Hi Unman & ubestemt, thank you for your patience. I followed Unmans hints. The difference is that, due to no-full-fedora-appvm-working-error I was using a f-24-minimal als starting point. This is bad, since minimal means minimal.. so the setup script failed miserably several times without surprise. The first ones seemed easy. I added dialog, dialog-devel. Then it was dpkg-dev and debootstrap that were missing. Got them as well. Since gpg is used & installed I added as a guess additionally openssl & openssl-devel as well. Now I am stuck: Setup spills out Traceback (most recent call last) File ./setup, line 1919 in main(sys.arg) File ./setup, line 1902, in main Wizard(DialogUI(), **args)** File ./setup, line 1190 in __call__ self.verify_keys(self.keys, force=False) File ./setup, line 1233, in gpg-verify_key _env=env .. UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' code can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 91: ordinal not in range(128) This error, as suggested here https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21129020/how-to-fix-unicodedecodeerror-ascii-codec-cant-decode-byte is due to some coding problems. Maybe some 'errors' in the setup script never appear in a rich-fedora system, but fail in fedora-minimal? I have no clue how too fix that. Anyone might help? Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fc72dc9f-e4ce-4ef7-e609-2380e533c73b%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] debian minimal
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 02:38:18PM +0200, Bernhard wrote: > Hello, > I ask again about a debian-8/9-minimal (preferably with coldkernel). I > know there was already a discussion on the subject, but I could not > gather enough information yet to start myself. There is a conf file > debian-8-minimal-3.0.2-201505170018.conf on github. The date "2015" is > not completely re-assuring. Is there a newer one? Even if it were > up-to-date, what do I do with this file? Could someone give me a brief > summary (or give diff's to the well documented archlinux building process)? > > Thank you! Bernhard > Hello Bernhard I thought that this had been adequately dealt with before. If you want to follow the instructions for archlinux, do so. Step 2 is optional - you do not need a github account. Step 5 is optional - you are able to deselect Fedora23 during setup stage. At step 6, (run ./setup) follow the instructions until the "Builder Plugin Selection" screen - Select builder-debian instead of builder-archlinux. (If you skipped Step5 you will have to leave builder-fedora selected.) At the "Template distribution selection" screen, (deselect fedora-23 if selected), select jessie+minimal. Follow the rest of the instructions. unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170513224957.GA23088%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] debian minimal
Are these instructions of any help? You basically just follow the instructions for building Arch. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170428154944.xt4ggq6xhhd3wxe3%40bestemt.no -- ubestemt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170513161449.hy6nq7vasvbfhp4u%40bestemt.no. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] debian minimal
Hello, I ask again about a debian-8/9-minimal (preferably with coldkernel). I know there was already a discussion on the subject, but I could not gather enough information yet to start myself. There is a conf file debian-8-minimal-3.0.2-201505170018.conf on github. The date "2015" is not completely re-assuring. Is there a newer one? Even if it were up-to-date, what do I do with this file? Could someone give me a brief summary (or give diff's to the well documented archlinux building process)? Thank you! Bernhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1cccd7ad-008a-6b69-7231-5b3cc092eeb4%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template?
On Tuesday, 21 June 2016 18:18:42 UTC+10, Ben Wika wrote:
> Perhaps I'm blind but I'm not seeing any mini package list in this thread.
> Only a discussion about who was going to post one.
>
> On Tuesday, 21 June 2016 10:06:50 UTC+10, Unman wrote:On Sun, Jun 19, 2016
> at 07:39:45PM -0700, Ben Wika wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> >
>
> > Not sure what's been happening on this subject since September (maybe
>
> > discussion has moved?) but thought I'd make a contribution. Pretty new to
>
> > some of this so appreciate the feedback.
>
> >
>
> > If we install the base qubes template for Debian-8, and then do:
>
> >
>
> > dpkg-query -f '${binary:Package} ' -W >> ~/inst
>
> >
>
> > (refer https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages )
>
> >
>
> > Then we end up with a file in the home directory that lists all installed
>
> > packages.
>
> > I can use "apt-mark auto" against all these items to clear out the list,
>
> > but before doing the autoremove, there's obviously some that have to
>
> > remain.
>
> >
>
> > To not 'break' the template completely, I'm finding that qubes-gui-agent is
>
> > the only one that needs to be set to manual.
>
> > But for good measure I follow it up with the following apps which I know
>
> > I'll be leaving in the minimal template:
>
> > sudo apt-get install firefox-esr lxterminal leafpad xfe
>
> >
>
> > Finally we do the autoremove step and end up saving about 100MB. Not alot,
>
> > but I'm more focused on simply reducing the attack surface.
>
> >
>
> > Having done this, all seems to work fine but I imagine some features are
>
> > missing behind the scenes (particularly qubes features).
>
> > So I appreciate any further recommendations or suggestions as to why debian
>
> > minimal has to be any more complicated than what I've stated.
>
> >
>
> > Regards
>
> > Ben
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Thursday, 24 September 2015 07:15:42 UTC+10, Jason M wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > On 22 September 2015 at 21:19, Unman
> > > > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 07:37:37PM +, Axon wrote:
>
> > >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>
> > >> > Hash: SHA512
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > V??t ??est??k:
>
> > >> > > I have created something like "minimal" Debian TemplateVM by
>
> > >> > > removing (almost) all needless things. I can share the list of
>
> > >> > > packages (e.g. output of apt-mark showmanual) if someone is
>
> > >> > > interested.
>
> > >> > >
>
> > >> > > The sparse root.img has just 1.2GiB. OK, I admit it is not as
>
> > >> > > minimal as Fedora.
>
> > >> > >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > To be fair, fedora-21-minimal is actually larger than that after doing
>
> > >> > a normal yum update (without installing any new packages), and of
>
> > >> > course it's almost always a good idea to update the software before
>
> > >> > using the template for anything important.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > > Regards, V??t ??est??k 'v6ak'
>
> > >> > >
>
> > >> > > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 7:19:36 AM UTC+2, cprise wrote:
>
> > >> > >>
>
> > >> > >> On 08/26/2015 08:38 PM, nrgaway wrote:
>
> > >> > >>> On 26 August 2015 at 16:04, Marek Marczykowski-G??recki
>
> > >> > >>>
>
> > >> > >>> > wrote:
>
> > >> > >>>
>
> > >> > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256
>
> > >> > >>>
>
> > >> > >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:50:41PM +, Qubed One wrote:
>
> > >> > Hi, just curious if anyone has any plans for a
>
> > >> > Debian-minimal
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > >>> template
>
> > >> > for Qubes R3 (ITL or community-maintained)?
>
> > >> > >>>
>
> > >> > >>> Jason, does the minimal template flavor (which exists in
>
> > >> > >> configuration)
>
> > >> > >>> is usable in the current state? Could you provide short
>
> > >> > >>> description
>
> > >> > >> what
>
> > >> > >>> functionality is there (like working as NetVM etc) and what
>
> > >> > >>> requires additional packages. Something like the same for
>
> > >> > >>> Fedora minimal:
>
> > >> > >>> http://www.qubes-os.org/doc/Templates/FedoraMinimal/
>
> > >> > >>>
>
> > >> > >>> Then I could simply build and upload the package.
>
> > >> > >>>
>
> > >> > >>>
>
> > >> > >>> I will document this for you. I do not use minimal template
>
> > >> > >>> since it's not that much smaller than the regular one so I
>
> > >> > >>> will need to test it all out again.
>
> > >> > >>>
>
> > >> > >>> --
>
> > >> > >>
>
> > >> > >> Then it would be good to make the Debian template selections
>
> > >> > >> similar to Fedora, with the supplied 'regular' Debian template
>
> > >> > >> having desktop features and apps. This would allow a user
>
> > >> > >> preferring Debian over Fedora to use their system as a desktop
>
> > >> > >> immediately instead of going through manual steps.
>
> > >> > >>
>
> > >> > >>
>
> > >> > >>
>
> > >> > >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template?
Perhaps I'm blind but I'm not seeing any mini package list in this thread.
Only a discussion about who was going to post one.
On Tuesday, 21 June 2016 10:06:50 UTC+10, Unman wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 07:39:45PM -0700, Ben Wika wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Not sure what's been happening on this subject since September (maybe
> > discussion has moved?) but thought I'd make a contribution. Pretty new
> to
> > some of this so appreciate the feedback.
> >
> > If we install the base qubes template for Debian-8, and then do:
> >
> > dpkg-query -f '${binary:Package} ' -W >> ~/inst
> >
> > (refer https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages )
> >
> > Then we end up with a file in the home directory that lists all
> installed
> > packages.
> > I can use "apt-mark auto" against all these items to clear out the list,
> > but before doing the autoremove, there's obviously some that have to
> > remain.
> >
> > To not 'break' the template completely, I'm finding that qubes-gui-agent
> is
> > the only one that needs to be set to manual.
> > But for good measure I follow it up with the following apps which I know
> > I'll be leaving in the minimal template:
> > sudo apt-get install firefox-esr lxterminal leafpad xfe
> >
> > Finally we do the autoremove step and end up saving about 100MB. Not
> alot,
> > but I'm more focused on simply reducing the attack surface.
> >
> > Having done this, all seems to work fine but I imagine some features are
> > missing behind the scenes (particularly qubes features).
> > So I appreciate any further recommendations or suggestions as to why
> debian
> > minimal has to be any more complicated than what I've stated.
> >
> > Regards
> > Ben
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, 24 September 2015 07:15:42 UTC+10, Jason M wrote:
> > >
> > > On 22 September 2015 at 21:19, Unman > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 07:37:37PM +, Axon wrote:
> > >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > >> > Hash: SHA512
> > >> >
> > >> > V??t ??est??k:
> > >> > > I have created something like "minimal" Debian TemplateVM by
> > >> > > removing (almost) all needless things. I can share the list of
> > >> > > packages (e.g. output of apt-mark showmanual) if someone is
> > >> > > interested.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The sparse root.img has just 1.2GiB. OK, I admit it is not as
> > >> > > minimal as Fedora.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > To be fair, fedora-21-minimal is actually larger than that after
> doing
> > >> > a normal yum update (without installing any new packages), and of
> > >> > course it's almost always a good idea to update the software before
> > >> > using the template for anything important.
> > >> >
> > >> > > Regards, V??t ??est??k 'v6ak'
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 7:19:36 AM UTC+2, cprise wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On 08/26/2015 08:38 PM, nrgaway wrote:
> > >> > >>> On 26 August 2015 at 16:04, Marek Marczykowski-G??recki
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> > wrote:
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:50:41PM +, Qubed One wrote:
> > >> > Hi, just curious if anyone has any plans for a
> > >> > Debian-minimal
> > >> >
> > >> > >>> template
> > >> > for Qubes R3 (ITL or community-maintained)?
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Jason, does the minimal template flavor (which exists in
> > >> > >> configuration)
> > >> > >>> is usable in the current state? Could you provide short
> > >> > >>> description
> > >> > >> what
> > >> > >>> functionality is there (like working as NetVM etc) and what
> > >> > >>> requires additional packages. Something like the same for
> > >> > >>> Fedora minimal:
> > >> > >>> http://www.qubes-os.org/doc/Templates/FedoraMinimal/
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Then I could simply build and upload the package.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> I will document this for you. I do not use minimal template
> > >> > >>> since it's not that much smaller than the regular one so I
> > >> > >>> will need to test it all out again.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> --
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Then it would be good to make the Debian template selections
> > >> > >> similar to Fedora, with the supplied 'regular' Debian template
> > >> > >> having desktop features and apps. This would allow a user
> > >> > >> preferring Debian over Fedora to use their system as a desktop
> > >> > >> immediately instead of going through manual steps.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > >> >
> > >> > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWAa3+AAoJEJh4Btx1RPV8OGMQAOb/QipOtiPaBLpccTZaZsr5
> > >> > yxfYrwjfFzpkLNhNU8ta0ClWl9MkoLp/tgUiAEfTC8c/DxA65UXGakKvmZrY4bfZ
> > >> > WiEuL1Y5lGcJraABrdC+ehTl7Fd/jRufnuyQE5d9UWleu5VBHfvGvBKMn6wwZmwN
> > >> > kXT1nfh5+SKHb3QaFMXz8l4pkLbQSy52TfscvgYPap
Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template?
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 07:39:45PM -0700, Ben Wika wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Not sure what's been happening on this subject since September (maybe
> discussion has moved?) but thought I'd make a contribution. Pretty new to
> some of this so appreciate the feedback.
>
> If we install the base qubes template for Debian-8, and then do:
>
> dpkg-query -f '${binary:Package} ' -W >> ~/inst
>
> (refer https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages )
>
> Then we end up with a file in the home directory that lists all installed
> packages.
> I can use "apt-mark auto" against all these items to clear out the list,
> but before doing the autoremove, there's obviously some that have to
> remain.
>
> To not 'break' the template completely, I'm finding that qubes-gui-agent is
> the only one that needs to be set to manual.
> But for good measure I follow it up with the following apps which I know
> I'll be leaving in the minimal template:
> sudo apt-get install firefox-esr lxterminal leafpad xfe
>
> Finally we do the autoremove step and end up saving about 100MB. Not alot,
> but I'm more focused on simply reducing the attack surface.
>
> Having done this, all seems to work fine but I imagine some features are
> missing behind the scenes (particularly qubes features).
> So I appreciate any further recommendations or suggestions as to why debian
> minimal has to be any more complicated than what I've stated.
>
> Regards
> Ben
>
>
> On Thursday, 24 September 2015 07:15:42 UTC+10, Jason M wrote:
> >
> > On 22 September 2015 at 21:19, Unman > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 07:37:37PM +, Axon wrote:
> >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> > Hash: SHA512
> >> >
> >> > V??t ??est??k:
> >> > > I have created something like "minimal" Debian TemplateVM by
> >> > > removing (almost) all needless things. I can share the list of
> >> > > packages (e.g. output of apt-mark showmanual) if someone is
> >> > > interested.
> >> > >
> >> > > The sparse root.img has just 1.2GiB. OK, I admit it is not as
> >> > > minimal as Fedora.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > To be fair, fedora-21-minimal is actually larger than that after doing
> >> > a normal yum update (without installing any new packages), and of
> >> > course it's almost always a good idea to update the software before
> >> > using the template for anything important.
> >> >
> >> > > Regards, V??t ??est??k 'v6ak'
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 7:19:36 AM UTC+2, cprise wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 08/26/2015 08:38 PM, nrgaway wrote:
> >> > >>> On 26 August 2015 at 16:04, Marek Marczykowski-G??recki
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:50:41PM +, Qubed One wrote:
> >> > Hi, just curious if anyone has any plans for a
> >> > Debian-minimal
> >> >
> >> > >>> template
> >> > for Qubes R3 (ITL or community-maintained)?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Jason, does the minimal template flavor (which exists in
> >> > >> configuration)
> >> > >>> is usable in the current state? Could you provide short
> >> > >>> description
> >> > >> what
> >> > >>> functionality is there (like working as NetVM etc) and what
> >> > >>> requires additional packages. Something like the same for
> >> > >>> Fedora minimal:
> >> > >>> http://www.qubes-os.org/doc/Templates/FedoraMinimal/
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Then I could simply build and upload the package.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I will document this for you. I do not use minimal template
> >> > >>> since it's not that much smaller than the regular one so I
> >> > >>> will need to test it all out again.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> --
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Then it would be good to make the Debian template selections
> >> > >> similar to Fedora, with the supplied 'regular' Debian template
> >> > >> having desktop features and apps. This would allow a user
> >> > >> preferring Debian over Fedora to use their system as a desktop
> >> > >> immediately instead of going through manual steps.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
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Re: [qubes-users] Debian minimal template?
Hi,
Not sure what's been happening on this subject since September (maybe
discussion has moved?) but thought I'd make a contribution. Pretty new to
some of this so appreciate the feedback.
If we install the base qubes template for Debian-8, and then do:
dpkg-query -f '${binary:Package} ' -W >> ~/inst
(refer https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages )
Then we end up with a file in the home directory that lists all installed
packages.
I can use "apt-mark auto" against all these items to clear out the list,
but before doing the autoremove, there's obviously some that have to
remain.
To not 'break' the template completely, I'm finding that qubes-gui-agent is
the only one that needs to be set to manual.
But for good measure I follow it up with the following apps which I know
I'll be leaving in the minimal template:
sudo apt-get install firefox-esr lxterminal leafpad xfe
Finally we do the autoremove step and end up saving about 100MB. Not alot,
but I'm more focused on simply reducing the attack surface.
Having done this, all seems to work fine but I imagine some features are
missing behind the scenes (particularly qubes features).
So I appreciate any further recommendations or suggestions as to why debian
minimal has to be any more complicated than what I've stated.
Regards
Ben
On Thursday, 24 September 2015 07:15:42 UTC+10, Jason M wrote:
>
> On 22 September 2015 at 21:19, Unman > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 07:37:37PM +, Axon wrote:
>> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> > Hash: SHA512
>> >
>> > V??t ??est??k:
>> > > I have created something like "minimal" Debian TemplateVM by
>> > > removing (almost) all needless things. I can share the list of
>> > > packages (e.g. output of apt-mark showmanual) if someone is
>> > > interested.
>> > >
>> > > The sparse root.img has just 1.2GiB. OK, I admit it is not as
>> > > minimal as Fedora.
>> > >
>> >
>> > To be fair, fedora-21-minimal is actually larger than that after doing
>> > a normal yum update (without installing any new packages), and of
>> > course it's almost always a good idea to update the software before
>> > using the template for anything important.
>> >
>> > > Regards, V??t ??est??k 'v6ak'
>> > >
>> > > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 7:19:36 AM UTC+2, cprise wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> On 08/26/2015 08:38 PM, nrgaway wrote:
>> > >>> On 26 August 2015 at 16:04, Marek Marczykowski-G??recki
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:50:41PM +, Qubed One wrote:
>> > Hi, just curious if anyone has any plans for a
>> > Debian-minimal
>> >
>> > >>> template
>> > for Qubes R3 (ITL or community-maintained)?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Jason, does the minimal template flavor (which exists in
>> > >> configuration)
>> > >>> is usable in the current state? Could you provide short
>> > >>> description
>> > >> what
>> > >>> functionality is there (like working as NetVM etc) and what
>> > >>> requires additional packages. Something like the same for
>> > >>> Fedora minimal:
>> > >>> http://www.qubes-os.org/doc/Templates/FedoraMinimal/
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Then I could simply build and upload the package.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I will document this for you. I do not use minimal template
>> > >>> since it's not that much smaller than the regular one so I
>> > >>> will need to test it all out again.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>
>> > >> Then it would be good to make the Debian template selections
>> > >> similar to Fedora, with the supplied 'regular' Debian template
>> > >> having desktop features and apps. This would allow a user
>> > >> preferring Debian over Fedora to use their system as a desktop
>> > >> immediately instead of going through manual steps.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
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>> There's already a debian minimal spec which is easy to build.
>> I use it for most VMs - it is perfectly usable as is.
>> Jason - are you doing that write up or do you want me to pick it up?
>>
>
> I am currently fin
