Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-26 Thread unman
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 06:16:34AM +, Jon deps wrote:
> I use thunderbird to read the qubes-users, then I right click and "respond
> to all" it populates and email  with
> 
> qubes-users-/jypxa39uh5tlh3mboc...@public.gmane.org
> 
> 
> awokd 
> 
> in the "To:" fields
> 
> then there is a "newsgroup:" field  gmane.os.qubes.user
> 
> I retitle the "to:" field to  qubes-users@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> and delete the other fields
> 
> but actually have no idea if this is  the  best method for   gmane  use
> 
> 
> so seems gmane does work at least for reading  the newsgroup  sir unman   :)
> 

Thanks.
I stopped using gmane some while back: I had no idea the service was
still running, (albeit with some bugs.)

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-25 Thread unman
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 02:11:40PM -0500, Sven Semmler wrote:
> On 7/25/19 10:48 AM, unman wrote:
> > Debian-10 is stuck in testing at the moment because it needs packages
> > from the *testing* repositories for updating. This could be confusing if
> > users install from current and don't want to use the testing
> > repositories.
> 
> I'm sorry that confused me. My main template is buster based and pulls
> from "/r4.0/vm buster main". Everything looks fine. Can you please
> clarify what you mean with the above?
> 
> /Sven
> 

Qubes packages - require =versions only in testing.
Try to install some new packages.
Most evident when using 10-minimal

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-25 Thread Sven Semmler
On 7/25/19 10:48 AM, unman wrote:
> Debian-10 is stuck in testing at the moment because it needs packages
> from the *testing* repositories for updating. This could be confusing if
> users install from current and don't want to use the testing
> repositories.

I'm sorry that confused me. My main template is buster based and pulls
from "/r4.0/vm buster main". Everything looks fine. Can you please
clarify what you mean with the above?

/Sven


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-25 Thread unman
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 08:49:00AM +, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> Jon deps:
> 
> > if the debian 10 sentence is current, is the documentation soon to be
> > updated ?
> > 
> > any guesstimate on the -10 fresh templates ETA <-- sorry to ask?? :)
> 
> The Debian 10 Qubes template isn't out yet. It's in testing so it should
> be soon. Hopefully, associated documentation would be updated around the
> same time.
> 
> > PS: in tbird how does one reply to
> > awokd 
> > 
> > I can a popup error recipient name rejected no domain found
> > 
> I don't know how Gmane works. Maybe you can't reply to posters directly
> with it. Using the Qubes listserv with email does work for that.
> 

Debian-10 is stuck in testing at the moment because it needs packages
from the *testing* repositories for updating. This could be confusing if
users install from current and don't want to use the testing
repositories.

Also, I've noticed a few regressions in the minimal template which need
fixing before release. So testing it remains. 
Andrew will announce when the templates become available in "current".

I don't think that Gmane works any more, does it? If you have a message 
referenced
ed there you should be able to find it in archive.org, and reply from
there.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-25 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Jon deps:

> if the debian 10 sentence is current, is the documentation soon to be
> updated ?
> 
> any guesstimate on the -10 fresh templates ETA <-- sorry to askĀ  :)

The Debian 10 Qubes template isn't out yet. It's in testing so it should
be soon. Hopefully, associated documentation would be updated around the
same time.

> PS: in tbird how does one reply to
> awokd 
> 
> I can a popup error recipient name rejected no domain found
> 
I don't know how Gmane works. Maybe you can't reply to posters directly
with it. Using the Qubes listserv with email does work for that.

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