Re: [qubes-users] Screen corruption on nvidia

2016-08-22 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-08-22 08:19, johnyju...@sigaint.org wrote:
>> Added testing repos to (clones of) debian-23 and debian-8 templates (as 
>> well as whonix-gw/whonix-ws), did upgrades/dist-updates, restarted, 
>> loaded up a bunch of AppVM's, and have been pounding on things awhile.
>> 
>> No sign of screen garbage yet!  :)
>> 
>> Looks promising.
> 
> Day 3 of banging on r3.2-testing, and zero sign of any screen corruption.
> 
> I think it's safe to mark this one as fixed.
> 
> JJ
> 
> 

Thanks for testing and letting us know! :)

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Re: [qubes-users] Screen corruption on nvidia

2016-08-22 Thread johnyjukya
> Added testing repos to (clones of) debian-23 and debian-8 templates (as
> well as whonix-gw/whonix-ws), did upgrades/dist-updates, restarted, loaded
> up a bunch of AppVM's, and have been pounding on things awhile.
>
> No sign of screen garbage yet!  :)
>
> Looks promising.

Day 3 of banging on r3.2-testing, and zero sign of any screen corruption.

I think it's safe to mark this one as fixed.

JJ

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Re: [qubes-users] Screen corruption on nvidia

2016-08-20 Thread johnyjukya
> I see the updated packages are for qubes-gui-agent's in the fedora/debian
> templates.  Will grab those, fire up several AppVM's, and see if things
> improve.

Added testing repos to (clones of) debian-23 and debian-8 templates (as
well as whonix-gw/whonix-ws), did upgrades/dist-updates, restarted, loaded
up a bunch of AppVM's, and have been pounding on things awhile.

No sign of screen garbage yet!  :)

Looks promising.

Cheers.

JJ

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Re: [qubes-users] Screen corruption on nvidia

2016-08-19 Thread johnyjukya
>> Several packages were recently pushed to testing repos (see
>> qubes-buider-github comments on the issue). Have you had a chance to try
>> those?
>
> Cool, I will grab the latest qubes-gui-vm from current-testing and see if
> that helps.

Sorry, that was phrased wrong, and I hate to add any confusion for anyone.
 (I really should read more carefully before posting.)

I see the updated packages are for qubes-gui-agent's in the fedora/debian
templates.  Will grab those, fire up several AppVM's, and see if things
improve.

Cheers.

JJ

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Re: [qubes-users] Screen corruption on nvidia

2016-08-19 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-08-18 04:44, johnyju...@sigaint.org wrote:
> This problem persists in 3.2rc2.
> 
> JJ
> 

Several packages were recently pushed to testing repos (see
qubes-buider-github comments on the issue). Have you had a chance to try those?

P.S. - Please keep the list CCed and try not to top-post.

 However, under Qubes, I experience random screen corruption.
 
 See: https://i.imgur.com/ovEFgYO.png
>> 
>>> Looks like it could be this issue:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1028
>>> 
>>> As you can see from the qubes-builder-github comments, some patches
>>> for this are already in the testing repos. You may want to give those a
>>> try.
>> 
>> Awesome!  Will give that a shot.  Thanks for the reply!  :)
>> 

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Re: [qubes-users] Screen corruption on nvidia

2016-08-19 Thread johnyjukya
 However, under Qubes, I experience random screen corruption.

 See: https://i.imgur.com/ovEFgYO.png

> This problem persists in 3.2rc2.
>
> JJ

Actually, just FYI, the behavior seems to be a lot better under 3.2rc2. 
I've only seen it a couple of times, versus seeing it consistently under
3.1.












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Re: [qubes-users] Screen corruption on nvidia

2016-08-18 Thread johnyjukya
This problem persists in 3.2rc2.

JJ

>>> However, under Qubes, I experience random screen corruption.
>>>
>>> See: https://i.imgur.com/ovEFgYO.png
>
>> Looks like it could be this issue:
>>
>> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1028
>>
>> As you can see from the qubes-builder-github comments, some patches for
this
>> are already in the testing repos. You may want to give those a try.
>
> Awesome!  Will give that a shot.  Thanks for the reply!  :)
>
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Re: [qubes-users] Screen corruption on nvidia

2016-08-16 Thread johnyjukya
>> However, under Qubes, I experience random screen corruption.
>>
>> See: https://i.imgur.com/ovEFgYO.png

> Looks like it could be this issue:
>
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1028
>
> As you can see from the qubes-builder-github comments, some patches for
> this
> are already in the testing repos. You may want to give those a try.

Awesome!  Will give that a shot.  Thanks for the reply!  :)

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Re: [qubes-users] Screen corruption on nvidia

2016-08-15 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-08-15 05:10, johnyju...@sigaint.org wrote:
> I realize that nVidia's aren't the preferred video card, but (being 
> divorce-poor) one sometimes has to make do with what one has.  :)
> 
> With my on-board nVidia (GeForce7100) and the nouveau driver (on both Tails
> and Qubes), things work okay, then suddenly at some random point the screen
> gets filled with diagonal line garbage, and things are unresponsive.  (The
> system seems to still be running, but the screen is pooched and keyboard
> seems unresponsive, and no Alt-F1'ing or whatever will get it back.
> Processes still seem to be running though, and the ethernet light is
> blinking normally as traffic goes in an out, etc.)
> 
> So I put in a PCI card, nVidia Geforce 7300, which seems solid, works 
> perfectly under Tails.
> 
> However, under Qubes, I experience random screen corruption.
> 
> See: https://i.imgur.com/ovEFgYO.png
> 
> It's usually fewer horizontal lines than in that snap, but I thought I'd 
> include an extreme example to show the problem.
> 
> It usually happens when the system is a bit busier CPU-wise/memory-wise, 
> but otherwise functioning fine.  Moving the window, or switching to another
> window and back, clears up the corruption.
> 
> Screen corruption like that could be a sign of some wild pointer or other 
> memory management bug, so I thought I'd bring it up.
> 
> The paranoid half of me (okay, okay, I'll admit, it's more than half) 
> worries it might be some attempted DMA attack.
> 
> (I've been, and continue to be, the subject of some rather high-end 
> professional hacking over the years, which adds to the concern.)
> 
> I've read about attacks where screen memory is used to stuff code and run 
> it to escalate privileges.  And the nature of the garbage doesn't look like
> mis-placed screen stuff, but code or other binary data.  Thankfully, if
> this is the case, the corruption seems contained to the AppVM.  The garbage
> never spills outside an AppVm's window.  It happens in both Redhat-23 and
> Debian-8 based AppVMs.  I've never seen evidence of it in dom0/Qubes
> Manager and such.
> 
> It realize it's *probably* not an attack, but I'd like to track down the 
> nature of the problem whether it's a bug or an attack.
> 
> I've read in another thread about video corruption caused by accessing 
> memory who page has moved, and "echo 0
>> /proc/sys/vm/compact_unevictable_allowed" supposedly helps.  At first, I
> thought that made a difference, but ultimately, the problem is still 
> there.
> 
> Any ideas on what I can try, short of giving up and hunting down an ATI 
> card or the like?  (I might try the proprietary nVidia drivers when I get a
> chance to compile them.  Not comfortable with grabbing binary versions for
> obvious reasons.)
> 
> Thanks.  You guys rock!
> 

Looks like it could be this issue:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1028

As you can see from the qubes-builder-github comments, some patches for this
are already in the testing repos. You may want to give those a try.

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