[ntp:questions] Sunfire X2100 and FreeBSD

2008-07-12 Thread jlevine
Hello,
   I am trying to use a Sunfire X2100 system as a time server using
FreeBSD 6.2. The system clock steps by tens of microseconds every few
minutes with no time software running. I have not seen this on other
non-Sun systems with the identical version of FreeBSD. Is this a
feature of the Sun hardware? If yes, can it be turned off? Otherwise
the time steps will confuse the synchronization process.

Thanks.

Judah Levine
Time and Frequency Division
NIST Boulder

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Re: [ntp:questions] ntpdate with auth

2008-07-12 Thread David Woolley
lin_g wrote:
> Hi all,
> Have anybody tried using ntpdate with iff and rsa keys on the time

ntpdate is deprecated.

+ server ? There is no problem when using symmetric md5 keys (-k and -a
+ options for ntpdate) but i have no idea how to force ntpdate to use the
+ public key for iff when remote server uses only that type of
+ authentication. Ntpd works perfect with that but unfortunately not 
ntpdate.

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Re: [ntp:questions] drift modeling question

2008-07-12 Thread shy author
> A Quadratic correction tends to run away pretty badly if you suddenly
> have a period of no ntp readings. But I am not at all sure that is what
> you mean. Rather you seem to mean that one use the temp to estimate what
> the linear drift is ( from the past readings of temp and drift.)

Correct, in that the linear correction will vary with temperature (and 
could be matched closely by a quadratic)

I am thinking of a least-squares fit to the drift data, versus 
temperature.  Another poster mentioned that we really need temperature of 
the crystal, I agree, but there should be strong correlation between that 
(unknown) temperature and the motherboard or processor chip temperatures.

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Re: [ntp:questions] ntpdate with auth

2008-07-12 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-07-11, lin_g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Have anybody tried using ntpdate with iff and rsa keys on the time
> server ? There is no problem when using symmetric md5 keys (-k and
> -a options for ntpdate) but i have no idea how to force ntpdate to
> use the public key for iff when remote server uses only that type of
> authentication.

My quick review of the ntpdate source show that it only uses symmetric
keys.

> Ntpd works perfect with that but unfortunately not ntpdate.

Why not use ntpd, then?

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Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
NTP Public Services Project - http://support.ntp.org/

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Re: [ntp:questions] drift modeling question

2008-07-12 Thread Unruh
shy author <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> A Quadratic correction tends to run away pretty badly if you suddenly
>> have a period of no ntp readings. But I am not at all sure that is what
>> you mean. Rather you seem to mean that one use the temp to estimate what
>> the linear drift is ( from the past readings of temp and drift.)

>Correct, in that the linear correction will vary with temperature (and 
>could be matched closely by a quadratic)

That is NOT a quadratic correction. It is a linear correction where the
linear coefficient depends on temperature. 

>I am thinking of a least-squares fit to the drift data, versus 
>temperature.  Another poster mentioned that we really need temperature of 
>the crystal, I agree, but there should be strong correlation between that 
>(unknown) temperature and the motherboard or processor chip temperatures.

And a lag.

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