Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd: time reset problem
> Is not in the software distribution from here. Apparently, your version of ntpd has been modified. David - Dovecot is the same application I use to POP3 mail from my SMTP gateway to my portal. All it is doing is squawking about the problem because it remembers what time it was the last time it checked the mail, then when it checks again it raises a warning flag. Phil Notice: This e-mail message and its attachments are the property of Wendy's/Arby's Group Inc. or one of its subsidiaries and may contain confidential or legally privileged information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not an intended recipient, then any use, copying or distribution of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message entirely from your system. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
[ntp:questions] Garmin 18x LVC - two dead units this year
Not really a question any more than "Is anyone else having this much trouble with Garmin 18x?" I ordered a Garmin in early January, got it running by 1/29/09 Garmin device died 3/13/09 New replacement installed 3/27/09 Second unit died this afternoon. Bummer. Guess I will have to keep one spare on hand. Phil Notice: This e-mail message and its attachments are the property of Wendy's/Arby's Group Inc. or one of its subsidiaries and may contain confidential or legally privileged information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not an intended recipient, then any use, copying or distribution of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message entirely from your system. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] Quoting Practices (Was: Re: Test internal clock)
I love the passion that people feel for the computing industry in general, and two of my favorite topics in particular: smtp and ntp. I am a relative newbie to usenet, having only been participating since 1987. I have heard the top-post, bottom-post, and how to quote discussion many times in the past 20 years. I didn't used to care much about it; I can figure out the message well enough either way. In the last couple years though, I have come to have an opinion and feel compelled to share it only as food for thought. I truly hope to not offend anyone, just enlighten! I now use a handheld for both regular 8-5 work and my personal business. One is a blackberry, the other a treo. I can keep up with all my business while I travel, so that I don't have as much to catch up on when I am back in the office. Well quoted, top-posted messages are the easiest for me to deal with on a handheld. I submit that as time goes by, the old conventions will need to change a little as more and more people work from a handheld. I can swallow either top or bottom post, really, but have great appreciation for a well-quoted message that I don't have to scroll up and down in to follow the quoting. In-line quoting is the worst to handle because line wraps are not pretty on a handheld. Thanks for listening, and for all the excellent content provided in this forum. Phil ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] demonstrate traceability to UTC
Until it gets too far afield, wouldn't this be an appropriate discussion for the forum? I have been asked the same question (sort of) before and could only give a rudimentary response based on a lot of my own assumptions. Phil >I would be happy to discuss these issues in this forum or off-line. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] http://www.ntp.org/ => a blank page?
Blank for me too. "Richard B. Gilbert" Sent by: cc questions-bounces +phil.newlon=wend Subject ysarbys@lists Re: [ntp:questions] .ntp.org http://www.ntp.org/ => a blank page? 03/03/2009 08:02 AM Please respond to rgilber...@comcas t.net David J Taylor wrote: > http://www.ntp.org/ => a blank page in both Firefox and Internet Explorer > > Is this correct? It works for me! ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
[ntp:questions] CDMA time server (was: "best" synchronization possible over the network)
I've seen mention of both the EndRun product and the Beagle product. As far as I can tell, the Beagle is a Windows-only device. Has anyone done any work with the MultiTech CDMA modem and *nix? (OK, Linux, I admit it :-) Phil A CDMA cell phone base station broadcasts a "reference signal" that supplies the time. You cam buy a receiver for this signal which will supply you with time derived from GPS. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
[ntp:questions] Learnings: FC8 Linux ntpd syncs to NMEA message but not PPS
I have now managed, with the patient help from Bill U., to get my Linux NTP system running using the PPS signal from a Garmin 18x LVC. I thought I would share what I had to do to make it all work. * References: http://time.qnan.org/ http://time.qnan.org/shmpps.tar http://www.david-taylor.myby.co.uk/ntp/FreeBSD-GPS-PPS.htm http://fixunix.com/ntp/67883-freebsd-garmin-gps-18-lvc.html * What's it running on - Dell Optiplex 740 running Fedora Core 8 - ntpd 4.2.4p2 - Garmin 18x LVC, powered off USB port, communicating on /dev/ttyS0 * - I built the circuit as shown on the time.qnan.org site. - I tried to use gpsd but that didn't work. I got NMEA to work but not PPS. - I tried shmpps but it didn't work either, so I started digging deeper. - Bill U. sent me a change to add to the shm_spl2.c file which would tell me if the driver was "seeing" data from my GPS. Nope. - I checked my circuit board over and over, no problems seen there. - I finally checked the cable that I had between the circuit board and the NTP server - crap, there was no connection between PIN 1! Turns out only seven of the nine pins had connections through my cable. Weird - I made my own cable with crimp on terminators and some ribbon cable. - Check it out, PPS data! * NOTABLES: - Don't blindly trust your cable! Just because it works for some things doesn't mean it will work for you here. As Bill noted, lots of serial cables are made with only pins 2 and 3 in mind to be concerned about - Watch your syslog file! It will tell you interesting things like "ntpd can't find /dev/gps0" - so you get to add a symbolic link between /dev/ttyXX to /dev/gps0. - If you have NMEA output from the GPS in your ntp.conf file (127.127.20.0), expect it to have "reach 0" reported when you finally get PPS (127.127.28.0) working. You can have NMEA or PPS from your serial input, you just can't have both at the same time from the same GPS on the same port. - With that said, be sure to have a remotely well clocked device to do an initial synch to before starting the shmpps driver. (See start.sh and shmpps scripts in ths shmpps tar file.) - See my circuit board here: http://www.toosan.com/shared/gps * CONTENTS of ntp.conf driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift statistics clockstats loopstats peerstats statsdir /var/log/ntp/ filegen peerstats file peers type day link enable filegen loopstats file loops type day link enable server 127.127.20.0 server ntp.wendysi.com iburst server 127.127.28.0 minpoll 4 prefer fudge 127.127.28.0 refid PPS flag3 1 * OUTPUT FROM ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == GPS_NMEA(0) .GPS.0 l- 6400.0000.000 0.001 10.255.213.232 10.255.231.148 2 u 63 64 3770.1732.336 0.398 *SHM(0) .PPS.0 l6 16 3770.0000.005 0.002 * DEBUG output from shm_spl2 (shmpps) range:4-11 sys:1233259966/84 ref:1233259967/0 prec: -17 range:0-7 sys:1233259980/83 ref:1233259981/0 prec: -17 range:2-9 sys:1233259994/84 ref:1233259995/0 prec: -16 range:3-10 sys:1233260008/83 ref:1233260009/0 prec: -16 ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd syncs to NMEA message but not PPS
Well, I've managed to wind myself completely up in my huggies I built a nice little 18x LVC setup this weekend, based on the circuit at time.qnan,org. I successfully get data from the GPS (9600 baud) and a PPS signal. I tried using the gpsd driver and am having no luck with it whatsoever. So, I have to ask at this point, what exactly did you mean "just use the shmpps set of routines to set up pps using the shm refclock"? I am running Fedora 8 Linux, for what that might be worth Thanks for any assistance you can provide! Phil Debug output from gpsd. Seems to be communicating OK, but loops with "reconfiguring for garmin serial" gpsd: <= GPS: $GPRMC,192734,A,4006.0064,N,08306.3234,W,000.0,203.8,260109,006.5,W,D*19^M gpsd: GPRMC starts a reporting cycle. gpsd: GPRMC sets mode 2 gpsd: ntpshm_put: Clock: 1232998054 @ 1232998054.745896 gpsd: <= GPS: $GPGGA,192734,4006.0064,N,08306.3234,W,2,07,2.4,345.2,M,-32.8,M,,*77^M gpsd: GPGGA sets status 2 and mode 3 (changed) gpsd: <= GPS: $GPGSA,A,3,,,10,,15,,21,24,26,29,30,,4.7,2.4,4.1*3E^M, gpsd: GPGSA sets mode 3 gpsd: <= GPS: $GPGSV,3,1,11,02,34,096,18,05,03,217,26,10,64,040,25,12,03,207,18*72^M gpsd: Partial satellite data (1 of 3). gpsd: <= GPS: $GPGSV,3,2,11,15,36,171,40,18,02,239,33,21,16,293,21,24,58,314,24*7D^M gpsd: Partial satellite data (2 of 3). gpsd: <= GPS: $GPGSV,3,3,11,26,45,149,30,29,60,287,25,30,12,238,32*4C^M gpsd: Satellite data OK (3 of 3)., gpsd: <= GPS: $PGRMC,A,,100,,A,,1,2,1,30*4B^M gpsd: GPRMC sets mode 0, gpsd: found $PGRMC,. gpsd: switch_driver(Garmin Serial) called... gpsd: Reconfiguring for Garmin Serial... gpsd: => GPS: $PGRMC,A,,100,,A,,1,2,1,30*4B\x0d After running for about the last hour, this is what I continue to see on the [r...@splunk /root]# ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == xSHM(0) .GPS0. 0 l1 16 3770.000 -667.98 42.005 SHM(1) .PPS.0 l- 1600.0000.000 0.002 x10.255.213.232 128.4.40.12 3 u 31 64 3770.186 -1.647 0.429 [r...@splunk /root]# cat /etc/ntp.conf driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift server 127.127.28.0 minpoll 4 fudge 127.127.28.0 time1 0.000 refid GPS0 server 127.127.28.1 minpoll 4 prefer fudge 127.127.28.1 refid PPS server ntp.wendysi.com iburst $GPRMC,193313,A,4006.0050,N,08306.3246,W,000.0,203.8,260109,006.5,W,D*1B $GPGGA,193313,4006.0050,N,08306.3246,W,2,05,2.2,344.7,M,-32.8,M,,*75 $GPGSA,A,3,,,10,15,,24,29,30,4.0,2.2,3.3*3D, $GPGSV,3,1,11,02,33,098,34,05,02,215,14,10,62,041,18,15,38,170,38*70 $GPGSV,3,2,11,18,04,241,36,24,60,317,28,29,62,282,27,30,11,236,26*7A $GPGSV,3,3,11,07,01,042,00,08,03,077,00,12,01,206,00*44, > You can just use something like gpsd to use the shm hardware clock to run the pps. > I would just use the shmpps set of routines to set up pps using the shm refclock. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] ntp peer association in VLAN query
Danny - It sounds like this is the same behavior that I asked about a few weeks ago, I think. I have a Windows machine with two IP addresses, acting as an NTP time source for devices on one of the two networks. Time synch requests come in from the clients on network A, and the response from the Windows machine is out the interface on network B. RE: "query-on" Danny wrote: What you require is the query-on option. I haven't had time to roll it into a release yet. You need outbound queries to go on the routeable address, correct? Phil Danny Mayer To Sent by: kiran shirol questions-bounces +phil.newlon=wend cc ysarbys@lists questions@lists.ntp.org .ntp.org Subject Re: [ntp:questions] ntp peer association in VLAN query 01/19/2009 11:04 AM Please respond to ma...@ntp.isc.org kiran shirol wrote: > My switch has configured for peering with the following switches > > ntp peer 101.1.1.2 > ntp peer 101.2.2.2 > ntp peer 102.1.1.2 > > Vlan has the following configuration: > ip address 10.1.1.1/24 > ip address 20.1.1.1/24 secondary > > Peer sends the NTP message 20.1.1.2(Out-Interface) -> 20.1.1.1(VLANs secondary IP) > The response comes as 10.1.1.1(VLANs Primary IP) -> 20.1.1.2 > That means that the VLAN is using the wrong address to reply to the message. NTP will see that it does not match the going address and will discard the message. That's correct behavior. You need to figure out why the packet is coming back with the incorrect address. i suspect the VLAN but I cannot be sure. Danny > Traces: > 2008-12-20 00:01:40.522776 20.1.1.2 -> 20.1.1.1 NTP NTP symmetric active > 2008-12-20 00:01:42.548166 10.1.1.1 -> 20.1.1.2 NTP NTP symmetric passive ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] NTP sever on an isolated Network
> All right, but what is LVC? Where I'll connect it in my computer? Name: GPS 18x LVC, 5m Manufacturer: Garmin USA Manufacturer Part Number: 010-00321-36 http://time.qnan.org/ ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] Sending ntpd logs to syslog
Along with what Martin said, you could use syslog-ng to get the data to multiple destinations, and tweak the way it looks when it gets there. > Appearingly you have configured an alternate log file in your /etc/ntp.conf > file, e.g.: logfile /var/log/ntp.log > If you comment that line out and restart ntpd then all log messages from > ntpd go to the syslog (only). > > I have a some test servers that are showing drift errors. > > I > > noticed that the drift errors are only going to /var/log/ntp.log and not > > to > > syslog. I would like for the logs to go to a file with the following > > format ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
Re: [ntp:questions] client listening interface
Danny - Yes, that is correct. I didn't see the query-on so was yapping about listen-on so you'd have a point of reference. Thanks! Phil - Original Message - From: Danny Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/05/2008 02:56 PM EST To: Phil Newlon Cc: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] client listening interface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have a Windows 2000 Server system that has two IP address configured - > one a routeable address, the other is 192.168.2.x for communication with > internal devices. My time source requires communication outside the local > environment, but it would appear that the server randomly decides to only > try to synch via the 192.168 interface, and failing. I wandered through > the support.ntp.org site, and found reference to a directive "listen-on" > being discussed. Is something resembling that functionality available in > 4.2.4p5, or is the current behavior of "all interfaces" my only current > option? > > Thanks! > > Phil What you require is the query-on option. I haven't had time to roll it into a release yet. You need outbound queries to go on the routeable address, correct? listen-on is to do with addresses/interfaces that it will accept requests on. Danny ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
[ntp:questions] client listening interface
I have a Windows 2000 Server system that has two IP address configured - one a routeable address, the other is 192.168.2.x for communication with internal devices. My time source requires communication outside the local environment, but it would appear that the server randomly decides to only try to synch via the 192.168 interface, and failing. I wandered through the support.ntp.org site, and found reference to a directive "listen-on" being discussed. Is something resembling that functionality available in 4.2.4p5, or is the current behavior of "all interfaces" my only current option? Thanks! Phil ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/mailman/listinfo/questions
