Re: [ntp:questions] Large offset and lots of time resets

2011-03-14 Thread Maarten Deen
Maarten Deen  wrote in
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> hal-use...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray) wrote in 
> news:k4odnvhgatyt6_jqnz2dnuvz_jydn...@megapath.net:
> 
>> In article ,
>>  Maarten Deen  writes:
>> ...
>>>23 Feb 20:42:53 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.421296 s
>>>23 Feb 20:52:05 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
>>>23 Feb 20:58:31 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.356457 s
>>>23 Feb 21:04:48 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
>>>23 Feb 21:14:26 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.400477 s
>>>
>>>This goes on and on and on. And regularly ntp stops having
>>>connection, reach goes to 1 and builds up again. Never that it is a
>>>poll that's been missed, it is always back to 1 as if ntpd has
>>>started itself up again. 
>>>
>>>I'm using ntp 4.2.4p4 on a Ubuntu box. Linux kernel 2.6.24.
>>>
>>>What's wrong in this setup?
>> 
>> My guess is that the clock on your system is broken.  Are you
>> using some sort of power saving that is changing the CPU frequency?
> 
> The computer is a server and is always on. Hardware is an AMD Athlon
> X2 and does lower the CPU frequency in powersaving.
> 
>> Have you tried a different clocksource?
>>   (google for >linux clocksource<)
> 
> First I heard of it, I'll look into it. It is currently set to hpet
> and I see one link that suggests using acpi_pm. I'll try that.

I've tried to change the clocksource but have been unable to. I have 
Ubuntu 10.4.2 and the available_clocksource lists both hpet and acpi_pm. 
Bu setting the clocksource to acpi_pm does not work.

I've now booted with the command "linux   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-29-
generic-pae root=UUID=8e5256d1-0f66-438d-8f9d-d18bdcf7bf7a ro quiet 
splash clocksource=acpi_pm" in grub.cfg, but the current_clocksource is 
still set to hpet.

Am I missing something here?

Regards,
Maarten

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Re: [ntp:questions] Large offset and lots of time resets

2011-02-24 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2011-02-23, Maarten Deen  wrote:

> A while now I'm having some problems with my ntp setup.

[snip]

> In ntp.log I continuously see lines like this:
> 23 Feb 19:09:51 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.393091 s
> 23 Feb 19:21:52 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2

Have you tried stopping ntpd, deleting your drift file and then starting
ntpd?

You may be able to improve your clock stability with one of these steps:

* Starting ntpd with '-N' to increase its priority

* Using a different clock source (as suggested elsewhere in this thread)

* Using the right kernel boot args

* Using a kernel compiled with HZ == 100

* Adjusting your kernel tick (not the HZ) as documented at
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/KnownHardwareIssues#Section_9.1.6.

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Re: [ntp:questions] Large offset and lots of time resets

2011-02-24 Thread Maarten Deen
Chris Albertson  wrote in 
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> I've noticed that "reach" goes down not only in the case of a bad
> network connection but also if the data seems unreasonable by whatever
> criteria.That might explain why the polls keep working.  I'm
> having the same exact problem currently with a GPS receiver that is
> not setup correctly.
> 
> One thing I'd do is add at least two more "server" lines in your
> ntp.conf file.  Along with the "0" pool server add lines for 1 and 2
> at least.  Then NTP can use it's clock selection algorithm

I've had that before. But it gave the same issues.

> What kind of network connection is this?

ADSL 8/1 Mbit

Maarten

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Re: [ntp:questions] Large offset and lots of time resets

2011-02-23 Thread Mike K Smith
Maarten Deen  wrote:
> A while now I'm having some problems with my ntp setup.
> 
> I have simple comfig file:
> $ cat /etc/ntp.conf
> # /etc/ntp.conf, configuration for ntpd; see ntp.conf(5) for help
> 
> driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
> logfile /var/log/ntp.log
> 
> server 0.nl.pool.ntp.org
> 
> but the offset is usually around 2000 and the jitter hovers around 700:
> $ ntpq -np
>  remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  
> jitter
> =
> =
> *217.67.231.25   193.67.79.2022 u   43   64  377   23.005  2073.00 
> 719.806
> 
> In ntp.log I continuously see lines like this:
> 23 Feb 19:09:51 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.393091 s
> 23 Feb 19:21:52 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 19:25:10 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.307869 s
> 23 Feb 19:35:17 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 19:40:40 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.338134 s
> 23 Feb 19:51:24 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 19:55:43 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.269268 s
> 23 Feb 20:01:27 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 20:11:09 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.328620 s
> 23 Feb 20:20:17 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 20:26:50 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.362413 s
> 23 Feb 20:34:17 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 20:42:53 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.421296 s
> 23 Feb 20:52:05 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 20:58:31 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.356457 s
> 23 Feb 21:04:48 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 21:14:26 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.400477 s
> 
> This goes on and on and on. And regularly ntp stops having connection, 
> reach goes to 1 and builds up again. Never that it is a poll that's been 
> missed, it is always back to 1 as if ntpd has started itself up again.
> 
> I'm using ntp 4.2.4p4 on a Ubuntu box. Linux kernel 2.6.24.
> 
> What's wrong in this setup?
> 
> Regards,
> Maarten
I once saw similar behaviour on a system which periodically ran a cron job
which ran hwclock to set system time to the time from the hardware clock.

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Re: [ntp:questions] Large offset and lots of time resets

2011-02-23 Thread Maarten Deen
hal-use...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray) wrote in 
news:k4odnvhgatyt6_jqnz2dnuvz_jydn...@megapath.net:

> In article ,
>  Maarten Deen  writes:
> ...
>>23 Feb 20:42:53 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.421296 s
>>23 Feb 20:52:05 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
>>23 Feb 20:58:31 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.356457 s
>>23 Feb 21:04:48 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
>>23 Feb 21:14:26 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.400477 s
>>
>>This goes on and on and on. And regularly ntp stops having connection, 
>>reach goes to 1 and builds up again. Never that it is a poll that's been 
>>missed, it is always back to 1 as if ntpd has started itself up again.
>>
>>I'm using ntp 4.2.4p4 on a Ubuntu box. Linux kernel 2.6.24.
>>
>>What's wrong in this setup?
> 
> My guess is that the clock on your system is broken.  Are you
> using some sort of power saving that is changing the CPU frequency?

The computer is a server and is always on. Hardware is an AMD Athlon X2 and 
does lower the CPU frequency in powersaving.

> Have you tried a different clocksource?
>   (google for >linux clocksource<)

First I heard of it, I'll look into it. It is currently set to hpet and I 
see one link that suggests using acpi_pm. I'll try that.

Regards,
Maarten

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Re: [ntp:questions] Large offset and lots of time resets

2011-02-23 Thread Chris Albertson
I've noticed that "reach" goes down not only in the case of a bad
network connection but also if the data seems unreasonable by whatever
criteria.That might explain why the polls keep working.  I'm
having the same exact problem currently with a GPS receiver that is
not setup correctly.

One thing I'd do is add at least two more "server" lines in your
ntp.conf file.  Along with the "0" pool server add lines for 1 and 2
at least.  Then NTP can use it's clock selection algorithm

What kind of network connection is this?


On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Maarten Deen  wrote:
> A while now I'm having some problems with my ntp setup.
>
> I have simple comfig file:
> $ cat /etc/ntp.conf
> # /etc/ntp.conf, configuration for ntpd; see ntp.conf(5) for help
>
> driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
> logfile /var/log/ntp.log
>
> server 0.nl.pool.ntp.org
>
> but the offset is usually around 2000 and the jitter hovers around 700:
> $ ntpq -np
>     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
> jitter
> =
> =
> *217.67.231.25   193.67.79.202    2 u   43   64  377   23.005  2073.00
> 719.806
>
> In ntp.log I continuously see lines like this:
> 23 Feb 19:09:51 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.393091 s
> 23 Feb 19:21:52 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 19:25:10 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.307869 s
> 23 Feb 19:35:17 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 19:40:40 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.338134 s
> 23 Feb 19:51:24 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 19:55:43 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.269268 s
> 23 Feb 20:01:27 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 20:11:09 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.328620 s
> 23 Feb 20:20:17 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 20:26:50 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.362413 s
> 23 Feb 20:34:17 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 20:42:53 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.421296 s
> 23 Feb 20:52:05 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 20:58:31 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.356457 s
> 23 Feb 21:04:48 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
> 23 Feb 21:14:26 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.400477 s
>
> This goes on and on and on. And regularly ntp stops having connection,
> reach goes to 1 and builds up again. Never that it is a poll that's been
> missed, it is always back to 1 as if ntpd has started itself up again.
>
> I'm using ntp 4.2.4p4 on a Ubuntu box. Linux kernel 2.6.24.
>
> What's wrong in this setup?
>
> Regards,
> Maarten
>
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Re: [ntp:questions] Large offset and lots of time resets

2011-02-23 Thread Hal Murray
In article ,
 Maarten Deen  writes:
...
>23 Feb 20:42:53 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.421296 s
>23 Feb 20:52:05 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
>23 Feb 20:58:31 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.356457 s
>23 Feb 21:04:48 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
>23 Feb 21:14:26 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.400477 s
>
>This goes on and on and on. And regularly ntp stops having connection, 
>reach goes to 1 and builds up again. Never that it is a poll that's been 
>missed, it is always back to 1 as if ntpd has started itself up again.
>
>I'm using ntp 4.2.4p4 on a Ubuntu box. Linux kernel 2.6.24.
>
>What's wrong in this setup?

My guess is that the clock on your system is broken.  Are you
using some sort of power saving that is changing the CPU frequency?

Have you tried a different clocksource?
  (google for >linux clocksource<)


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[ntp:questions] Large offset and lots of time resets

2011-02-23 Thread Maarten Deen
A while now I'm having some problems with my ntp setup.

I have simple comfig file:
$ cat /etc/ntp.conf
# /etc/ntp.conf, configuration for ntpd; see ntp.conf(5) for help

driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
logfile /var/log/ntp.log

server 0.nl.pool.ntp.org

but the offset is usually around 2000 and the jitter hovers around 700:
$ ntpq -np
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  
jitter
=
=
*217.67.231.25   193.67.79.2022 u   43   64  377   23.005  2073.00 
719.806

In ntp.log I continuously see lines like this:
23 Feb 19:09:51 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.393091 s
23 Feb 19:21:52 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
23 Feb 19:25:10 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.307869 s
23 Feb 19:35:17 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
23 Feb 19:40:40 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.338134 s
23 Feb 19:51:24 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
23 Feb 19:55:43 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.269268 s
23 Feb 20:01:27 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
23 Feb 20:11:09 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.328620 s
23 Feb 20:20:17 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
23 Feb 20:26:50 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.362413 s
23 Feb 20:34:17 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
23 Feb 20:42:53 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.421296 s
23 Feb 20:52:05 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
23 Feb 20:58:31 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.356457 s
23 Feb 21:04:48 ntpd[27664]: synchronized to 217.67.231.25, stratum 2
23 Feb 21:14:26 ntpd[27664]: time reset +2.400477 s

This goes on and on and on. And regularly ntp stops having connection, 
reach goes to 1 and builds up again. Never that it is a poll that's been 
missed, it is always back to 1 as if ntpd has started itself up again.

I'm using ntp 4.2.4p4 on a Ubuntu box. Linux kernel 2.6.24.

What's wrong in this setup?

Regards,
Maarten

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