[ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-05-25 Thread David Taylor
It looks like the UK MSF 60 KHz signal from Anthorn is down.  I've seen 
one report that a clock stopped at 00:04 this morning (but I don't know 
whether that was UTC or UTC+01:00).



http://www.npl.co.uk/science-technology/time-frequency/products-and-services/time/msf-radio-time-signal

No confirmation elsewhere.  We did have thunderstorms overnight so 
perhaps the antenna or power supply was hit...


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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-05-25 Thread David Malone
David Taylor  writes:

>It looks like the UK MSF 60 KHz signal from Anthorn is down.  I've seen 
>one report that a clock stopped at 00:04 this morning (but I don't know 
>whether that was UTC or UTC+01:00).

I haven't got a sample from it for about 21h that made it to the
NTP server. The last minute that the decoder managed to process was:

uninverted A: 00010110110010101000110
uninverted B: 11100101010
uninverted Raw: 25/5/2014 0:04 Sun -300 DST 
uninverted Ctime: Sun May 25 00:04:01 2014

David.

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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-05-25 Thread David Taylor

On 25/05/2014 20:55, David Malone wrote:

David Taylor  writes:


It looks like the UK MSF 60 KHz signal from Anthorn is down.  I've seen
one report that a clock stopped at 00:04 this morning (but I don't know
whether that was UTC or UTC+01:00).


I haven't got a sample from it for about 21h that made it to the
NTP server. The last minute that the decoder managed to process was:

uninverted A: 00010110110010101000110
uninverted B: 11100101010
uninverted Raw: 25/5/2014 0:04 Sun -300 DST
uninverted Ctime: Sun May 25 00:04:01 2014

David.


Thanks for that confirmation, David.  It seems to still be down at 06:22 
UTC this morning, so it must be serious!  Today is a holiday in the UK, 
so what chance of it being repaired?


I thought it bad that there was no status available from NPL, and I 
haven't even looked for a URL to report a problem.  Not that anyone 
would be in to monitor reports


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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-05-27 Thread David Taylor

Still down at 09:05 UTC Tuesday.

The lack of information is underwhelming!

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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-05-27 Thread Jos van de Ven
It is there:

http://www.npl.co.uk/science-technology/time-frequency/products-and-services/time/msf-outages

Greetings,

Op 27 mei 2014, om 11:05 heeft David Taylor 
 het volgende geschreven:

> Still down at 09:05 UTC Tuesday.
> 
> The lack of information is underwhelming!
> 
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> David
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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-05-28 Thread David Taylor

On 25/05/2014 18:04, David Taylor wrote:

It looks like the UK MSF 60 KHz signal from Anthorn is down.  I've seen
one report that a clock stopped at 00:04 this morning (but I don't know
whether that was UTC or UTC+01:00).

[]

Update: it returned on Wednesday, 2014 May 28, at 12:56:01 UTC according 
to David Malone, and was sending sensible data shortly after.


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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-06-09 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Hello!

Why have such important service no backup transmitter/antenna like DCF77?

Am 29.05.2014 08:20, schrieb David Taylor:
> On 25/05/2014 18:04, David Taylor wrote:
>> It looks like the UK MSF 60 KHz signal from Anthorn is down.  I've seen
>> one report that a clock stopped at 00:04 this morning (but I don't know
>> whether that was UTC or UTC+01:00).
> []
> 
> Update: it returned on Wednesday, 2014 May 28, at 12:56:01 UTC according to
> David Malone, and was sending sensible data shortly after.
> 

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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-06-09 Thread Jan Ceuleers
On 06/09/2014 05:50 PM, Marc-Andre Alpers wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Why have such important service no backup transmitter/antenna like DCF77?

Whereas DCF77 might have a backup transmitter (I don't know), I observe
DCF77 being down very often, albeit for short durations (5-10 mins).

When I do receive it the signal is strong, so I don't think my
observations are due to being too far away (I'm in Northern Belgium).

Morale: don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-06-09 Thread David Lord

Jan Ceuleers wrote:

On 06/09/2014 05:50 PM, Marc-Andre Alpers wrote:

Hello!

Why have such important service no backup transmitter/antenna like DCF77?


Whereas DCF77 might have a backup transmitter (I don't know), I observe
DCF77 being down very often, albeit for short durations (5-10 mins).

When I do receive it the signal is strong, so I don't think my
observations are due to being too far away (I'm in Northern Belgium).

Morale: don't put all your eggs in one basket.


Hi

Mostly too weak in Lancashire UK but at least it has a very
accurate phase shift seconds marker. MSF and GPS for me have
occasional blackouts, ISTR inversion layer effects used to
be common in this area but apparently it's now unknown.

MSF was ok as fallback on rare occasions when internet was
down.


David

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