Re: [Rd] requesting a new SIG mailing list

2012-02-16 Thread Martin Maechler
Hi,

I'm the site maintainer of the r-sig-...@r-project.org mailing
lists (and back from vacations).

 Sarah Goslee sarah.gos...@gmail.com
 on Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:16:01 -0500 writes:

 Hi all,
 It would be great if Sara of someone of the maintainers
 of the r-sig-ecology list could add that info to the info page.

 I'm talking with the other maintainer about revising both
 the short and the long descriptions.

 I think that r-sig-env would be much more intuitive for
 environmental scientists coming from fields different
 from ecology, but I don't think it is possible to change
 the name of an existing mailing list.

yes, that would be only doable with much effort,
and (unless even more effort is put in) it would invalidate all
current links to the current archives etc. 

 However, I'm wondering if it would be possible to create
 an alias termed 'r-sig-env' to 'r-sig-ecology' ?, in
 order to make the name of the list more intuitive for
 environmental scientists but without disturbing the
 current users.

 I don't know that there is any mechanism for doing either
 of those things.  Changing the name would be disruptive,
 and I don't know of an alias option. 

there is none, on the mailing list level.
On the mail server side, I could create such aliases,
but then these would only apply to e-mail addresses and the ML
software would still speak of the official ML name...

Given all the issues and opinions heard so far, I'd also
propose trying to have hydrologists and other env.scientists
join the r-sig-ecology for the time being.

Brian Ripley has already mentioned the very important point, 
that there's some often non-negligible admin overhead for each
list, and I can add that indeed, we have had several lists that
always remained too small and so never started flying.

 I think ecology is a more inclusive term than
 environmental anyway, but then I'm an ecologist.

 Sarah

ah, that's an interesting side issue, and at first somewhat
counter intuitive to a layman like me,... but after thinking a bit
about the meaning of the words, most will have to agree with you.
{but please let's not start a thread on that now..}

Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich

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Re: [Rd] requesting a new SIG mailing list

2012-02-16 Thread Sarah Goslee
Dear Martin,

Thank you for confirming what I'd already suspected
about the mailing list software.

I've added hydrology explicitly to the list description, and
hope that the hydrologists find it a welcoming home. We've
got a solid core of participants, so R users should
find it a useful resource.

Sarah

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Martin Maechler
maech...@stat.math.ethz.ch wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm the site maintainer of the r-sig-...@r-project.org mailing
 lists (and back from vacations).

 Sarah Goslee sarah.gos...@gmail.com
     on Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:16:01 -0500 writes:

     Hi all,
     It would be great if Sara of someone of the maintainers
     of the r-sig-ecology list could add that info to the info page.

     I'm talking with the other maintainer about revising both
     the short and the long descriptions.

     I think that r-sig-env would be much more intuitive for
     environmental scientists coming from fields different
     from ecology, but I don't think it is possible to change
     the name of an existing mailing list.

 yes, that would be only doable with much effort,
 and (unless even more effort is put in) it would invalidate all
 current links to the current archives etc.

     However, I'm wondering if it would be possible to create
     an alias termed 'r-sig-env' to 'r-sig-ecology' ?, in
     order to make the name of the list more intuitive for
     environmental scientists but without disturbing the
     current users.

     I don't know that there is any mechanism for doing either
     of those things.  Changing the name would be disruptive,
     and I don't know of an alias option.

 there is none, on the mailing list level.
 On the mail server side, I could create such aliases,
 but then these would only apply to e-mail addresses and the ML
 software would still speak of the official ML name...

 Given all the issues and opinions heard so far, I'd also
 propose trying to have hydrologists and other env.scientists
 join the r-sig-ecology for the time being.

 Brian Ripley has already mentioned the very important point,
 that there's some often non-negligible admin overhead for each
 list, and I can add that indeed, we have had several lists that
 always remained too small and so never started flying.



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Re: [Rd] requesting a new SIG mailing list

2012-02-16 Thread Mauricio Zambrano-Bigiarini

On 16/02/12 12:51, Sarah Goslee wrote:

Dear Martin,

Thank you for confirming what I'd already suspected
about the mailing list software.


What a pity that is not possible, but thank you very much Martin for 
confirming and explaining why is not possible.




I've added hydrology explicitly to the list description, and
hope that the hydrologists find it a welcoming home. We've
got a solid core of participants, so R users should
find it a useful resource.



It is decided then.
Thank you very much Sarah for adding hydrology to the description of the 
R-sig-ecology mailing list:


The purpose of R-sig-ecology is two-fold. First, we want to provide a 
discussion forum for those analyzing ecological and environmental data 
with R, including but not limited to vegetation, soils and hydrology. 
Second, we want to encourage R users of all ability and experience to 
participate so that we may grow the community of ecologists and 
environmental scientists that use R.



Thank you all for taking part in this discussion. I'll start spreading 
the voice among colleagues.


I hope Dominik may mention this mailing list in the EGU 2012 short 
course Hydrological Analysis in R:

http://meetingorganizer.copernicus.org/EGU2012/session/10635


All the best for the enhanced R-sig-ecology mailing list.

Mauricio Zambrano-Bigiarini

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Sarah

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Martin Maechler
maech...@stat.math.ethz.ch  wrote:

Hi,

I'm the site maintainer of the r-sig-...@r-project.org mailing
lists (and back from vacations).


Sarah Gosleesarah.gos...@gmail.com
 on Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:16:01 -0500 writes:


  Hi all,
  It would be great if Sara of someone of the maintainers
  of the r-sig-ecology list could add that info to the info page.

  I'm talking with the other maintainer about revising both
  the short and the long descriptions.

  I think that r-sig-env would be much more intuitive for
  environmental scientists coming from fields different
  from ecology, but I don't think it is possible to change
  the name of an existing mailing list.

yes, that would be only doable with much effort,
and (unless even more effort is put in) it would invalidate all
current links to the current archives etc.

  However, I'm wondering if it would be possible to create
  an alias termed 'r-sig-env' to 'r-sig-ecology' ?, in
  order to make the name of the list more intuitive for
  environmental scientists but without disturbing the
  current users.

  I don't know that there is any mechanism for doing either
  of those things.  Changing the name would be disruptive,
  and I don't know of an alias option.

there is none, on the mailing list level.
On the mail server side, I could create such aliases,
but then these would only apply to e-mail addresses and the ML
software would still speak of the official ML name...

Given all the issues and opinions heard so far, I'd also
propose trying to have hydrologists and other env.scientists
join the r-sig-ecology for the time being.

Brian Ripley has already mentioned the very important point,
that there's some often non-negligible admin overhead for each
list, and I can add that indeed, we have had several lists that
always remained too small and so never started flying.






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Re: [Rd] requesting a new SIG mailing list

2012-02-16 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 12:21 -0500, Sarah Goslee wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm one of the maintainers of the r-sig-ecology list, and I think
 it would be entirely appropriate to include hydrology within
 the scope of the list.

I also agree. It was always the intention AFAICR for the R-SIG-Ecology
list to cover environmetrics in its fullest sense. With hindsight
R-SIG-Environ or something along those lines would have given the
impression of a wider focus for the list, but only in some quarters.

I do hope that the hydrologists do join us in asking and answering
questions on the R-SIG-Ecology list as both are needed for the list to
flourish.

G

 There hasn't been much hydrologic discussion, as you noted,
 but not because we wish to exclude it.
 
 Sarah
 
 On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Mauricio Zambrano-Bigiarini
 mauricio.zambr...@jrc.ec.europa.eu wrote:
 
  Another possibility could be to use the R-sig-ecology, which seems to be
  more related to hydrology:
 
  analytical techniques and topics that are appropriate for discussion on
  R-sig-ecology are quite broad. For examples of what might be appropriate for
  discussion on this list, please see the Environmentrics Task View
  (http://cran.r-project.org/web/views/Environmetrics.html)
  (taken from: https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology)
 
  However, I did a quick search on the archives of 'R-sig-ecology' for the
  year 2011, and I could only found one single mail related to hydrology:
 
  https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-ecology/2011-July/002274.html
 
  (in the same search I couldn't find any single reference to hydrology in the
  R-sig-geo during the year 2011)
 

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[Rd] Parallel R CMD check?

2012-02-16 Thread Martin Morgan
Running R CMD check on a package can take quite a lot of time. Checks 
seem like they could be run in parallel (separate processes for, e.g., 
codoc, examples, tests, ...). Is there a way to do this? My current 
usage is typically


   R CMD build pkg
   R CMD check pkg_x.y.z.tar.gz

Thanks for any hints,

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