[Rd] Most recent R manuals [Was: Likely disruption to R-devel builds on Windows]
On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: We are planning to phase in some major changes to the R build process on Windows shortly, so expect problems and temporary unavailability of binary builds of R and of packages, and if you are building from sources, check out the latest version of the R-admin manual (in the sources) for the current state. To make sure no one has an excuse for not reading the current manuals - they are available (built nightly) at http://r.research.att.com/man/ Cheers, Simon The planned changes are - to move the 32-bit builds to MinGW's recent release of gcc 4.5.0 (but with static linking of the Fortran and C++ runtimes: dynamic linking of C++ in packages crashes R). - to merge the 32-bit and 64-bit builds into a single installer and (for at least 98% of CRAN) a single binary for each package. NB: R-devel is not due for release until ca October and changes such as this are done early in the development cycle to allow plenty of time for them to be bedded down. Please do take seriously the description as R version 2.12.0 Under development (unstable) (2010-04-29 r51864) -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Most recent R manuals [Was: Likely disruption to R-devel builds on Windows]
Some easy way to find out what has changed would be desirable here. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Simon Urbanek simon.urba...@r-project.org wrote: On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: We are planning to phase in some major changes to the R build process on Windows shortly, so expect problems and temporary unavailability of binary builds of R and of packages, and if you are building from sources, check out the latest version of the R-admin manual (in the sources) for the current state. To make sure no one has an excuse for not reading the current manuals - they are available (built nightly) at http://r.research.att.com/man/ Cheers, Simon The planned changes are - to move the 32-bit builds to MinGW's recent release of gcc 4.5.0 (but with static linking of the Fortran and C++ runtimes: dynamic linking of C++ in packages crashes R). - to merge the 32-bit and 64-bit builds into a single installer and (for at least 98% of CRAN) a single binary for each package. NB: R-devel is not due for release until ca October and changes such as this are done early in the development cycle to allow plenty of time for them to be bedded down. Please do take seriously the description as R version 2.12.0 Under development (unstable) (2010-04-29 r51864) -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Most recent R manuals [Was: Likely disruption to R-devel builds on Windows]
Maybe Duncan could apply the same script that's being used for RNEWS to the manuals? An RSS feed of changes to the manuals would be really useful. Hadley On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Gabor Grothendieck ggrothendi...@gmail.com wrote: Some easy way to find out what has changed would be desirable here. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Simon Urbanek simon.urba...@r-project.org wrote: On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: We are planning to phase in some major changes to the R build process on Windows shortly, so expect problems and temporary unavailability of binary builds of R and of packages, and if you are building from sources, check out the latest version of the R-admin manual (in the sources) for the current state. To make sure no one has an excuse for not reading the current manuals - they are available (built nightly) at http://r.research.att.com/man/ Cheers, Simon The planned changes are - to move the 32-bit builds to MinGW's recent release of gcc 4.5.0 (but with static linking of the Fortran and C++ runtimes: dynamic linking of C++ in packages crashes R). - to merge the 32-bit and 64-bit builds into a single installer and (for at least 98% of CRAN) a single binary for each package. NB: R-devel is not due for release until ca October and changes such as this are done early in the development cycle to allow plenty of time for them to be bedded down. Please do take seriously the description as R version 2.12.0 Under development (unstable) (2010-04-29 r51864) -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel -- Assistant Professor / Dobelman Family Junior Chair Department of Statistics / Rice University http://had.co.nz/ __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Most recent R manuals [Was: Likely disruption to R-devel builds on Windows]
On 30/04/2010 10:22 AM, hadley wickham wrote: Maybe Duncan could apply the same script that's being used for RNEWS to the manuals? An RSS feed of changes to the manuals would be really useful. My script is very NEWS specific. The manuals would be harder. You could get the diffs from svn pretty easily, but displaying them would be trickier: do you display the diffs in the .texi source, or convert to HTML and display the diffs there, or what? How much context around them? Not impossible, but not trivial. Duncan Hadley On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Gabor Grothendieck ggrothendi...@gmail.com wrote: Some easy way to find out what has changed would be desirable here. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Simon Urbanek simon.urba...@r-project.org wrote: On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: We are planning to phase in some major changes to the R build process on Windows shortly, so expect problems and temporary unavailability of binary builds of R and of packages, and if you are building from sources, check out the latest version of the R-admin manual (in the sources) for the current state. To make sure no one has an excuse for not reading the current manuals - they are available (built nightly) at http://r.research.att.com/man/ Cheers, Simon The planned changes are - to move the 32-bit builds to MinGW's recent release of gcc 4.5.0 (but with static linking of the Fortran and C++ runtimes: dynamic linking of C++ in packages crashes R). - to merge the 32-bit and 64-bit builds into a single installer and (for at least 98% of CRAN) a single binary for each package. NB: R-devel is not due for release until ca October and changes such as this are done early in the development cycle to allow plenty of time for them to be bedded down. Please do take seriously the description as R version 2.12.0 Under development (unstable) (2010-04-29 r51864) -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Most recent R manuals [Was: Likely disruption to R-devel builds on Windows]
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote: On 30/04/2010 10:22 AM, hadley wickham wrote: Maybe Duncan could apply the same script that's being used for RNEWS to the manuals? An RSS feed of changes to the manuals would be really useful. My script is very NEWS specific. The manuals would be harder. You could get the diffs from svn pretty easily, but displaying them would be trickier: do you display the diffs in the .texi source, or convert to HTML and display the diffs there, or what? How much context around them? Not impossible, but not trivial. Just making the source diffs easily accessible would be sufficient IMHO. For example, go to this page: http://rwiki.sciviews.org/doku.php?do=recent and click on any of the eyeglass symbols. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Most recent R manuals [Was: Likely disruption to R-devel builds on Windows]
My script is very NEWS specific. The manuals would be harder. You could get the diffs from svn pretty easily, but displaying them would be trickier: do you display the diffs in the .texi source, or convert to HTML and display the diffs there, or what? How much context around them? Not impossible, but not trivial. I suspect the best combination of ease and quality of output would be to output the texi to plain text, and then diff that. I really like the existing RNEWS format, but I guess you split the news into individual entries and only display those with any changes. It would be a bit harder to do with general output, although maybe splitting into paragraphs would be sufficient. Hadley -- Assistant Professor / Dobelman Family Junior Chair Department of Statistics / Rice University http://had.co.nz/ __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Most recent R manuals [Was: Likely disruption to R-devel builds on Windows]
On 30/04/2010 10:48 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote:
On 30/04/2010 10:22 AM, hadley wickham wrote:
Maybe Duncan could apply the same script that's being used for RNEWS
to the manuals? An RSS feed of changes to the manuals would be really
useful.
My script is very NEWS specific. The manuals would be harder. You could
get the diffs from svn pretty easily, but displaying them would be trickier:
do you display the diffs in the .texi source, or convert to HTML and
display the diffs there, or what? How much context around them? Not
impossible, but not trivial.
Just making the source diffs easily accessible would be sufficient IMHO.
That's already available, but not too pretty. E.g.
svn log -v https://svn.r-project.org/R/trunk/doc/manual | less
will show something like
r51865 | ripley | 2010-04-30 00:56:00 -0400 (Fri, 30 Apr 2010) | 1 line
Changed paths:
M /trunk/doc/manual/R-admin.texi
M /trunk/src/gnuwin32/CHANGES
M /trunk/src/library/tools/R/install.R
tests starssrc/library/tools/R/install.R
r51858 | ripley | 2010-04-29 00:51:01 -0400 (Thu, 29 Apr 2010) | 1 line
Changed paths:
M /trunk/doc/manual/R-exts.texi
tweak wording
r51854 | ripley | 2010-04-28 10:41:26 -0400 (Wed, 28 Apr 2010) | 1 line
Changed paths:
M /trunk/doc/manual/R-exts.texi
more on portability
(etc.)
and for particular details, you can do something like
svn diff -c 51858 https://svn.r-project.org/R/trunk/doc/manual
which will give
Index: R-exts.texi
===
--- R-exts.texi (revision 51857)
+++ R-exts.texi (revision 51858)
@@ -10813,10 +10813,10 @@
The @R{} for Windows installers have for a long time allowed the value
of @code{R_HOME} to be recorded in the Windows Registry: this is
-optional but the default. Where is it is recorded has changed over the
-years to allow for multiple versions of @R{} to be installed at once,
-and as from @R{} 2.11.0, to allow 32- and 64-bit versions of @R{} to be
-installed on the same machine.
+optional but selected by default. @emph{Where} is it is recorded has
+changed over the years to allow for multiple versions of @R{} to be
+installed at once, and as from @R{} 2.11.0, to allow 32- and 64-bit
+versions of @R{} to be installed on the same machine.
The basic Registry location is @code{Software\R-core\R}. For an
administrative install this is under @code{HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE} and on a
The non-trivial part is converting it into a nice display like what you
pointed out in the Wiki.
Duncan Murdoch
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Re: [Rd] Most recent R manuals [Was: Likely disruption to R-devel builds on Windows]
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote: On 30/04/2010 10:48 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote: On 30/04/2010 10:22 AM, hadley wickham wrote: Maybe Duncan could apply the same script that's being used for RNEWS to the manuals? An RSS feed of changes to the manuals would be really useful. My script is very NEWS specific. The manuals would be harder. You could get the diffs from svn pretty easily, but displaying them would be trickier: do you display the diffs in the .texi source, or convert to HTML and display the diffs there, or what? How much context around them? Not impossible, but not trivial. If you could mirror the manuals to googlecode you would automatically get an HTML interface to the diffs. e.g. http://code.google.com/p/sqldf/source/list __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Most recent R manuals [Was: Likely disruption to R-devel builds on Windows]
On 30/04/2010 2:11 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote: On 30/04/2010 10:48 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote: On 30/04/2010 10:22 AM, hadley wickham wrote: Maybe Duncan could apply the same script that's being used for RNEWS to the manuals? An RSS feed of changes to the manuals would be really useful. My script is very NEWS specific. The manuals would be harder. You could get the diffs from svn pretty easily, but displaying them would be trickier: do you display the diffs in the .texi source, or convert to HTML and display the diffs there, or what? How much context around them? Not impossible, but not trivial. If you could mirror the manuals to googlecode you would automatically get an HTML interface to the diffs. e.g. http://code.google.com/p/sqldf/source/list Go for it. You've got more experience with googlecode than I do. Duncan Murdoch __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
