Re: [Rd] as.character(list(NA))
On 01/22/2018 01:02 PM, William Dunlap wrote:
I tend to avoid using as. functions on lists, since they act oddly
in several ways.
E.g, if the list "L" consists entirely of scalar elements then
as.numeric(L) acts like
as.numeric(unlist(L)) but if any element is not a scalar there is an
error.
FWIW personally I see this as a nice feature and use as.numeric(L)
instead of as.numeric(unlist(L) in places where I'd rather fail than
getting something that is not parallel to the input.
H.
as.character()
does not seem to make a distinction between the all-scalar and
not-all-scalar cases
but does various things with NA's of various types.
Bill Dunlap
TIBCO Software
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Robert McGehee
mailto:rmcge...@walleyetrading.net>> wrote:
Also perhaps a surprise that the behavior depends on the mode of the NA.
> is.na
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[1] FALSE
> is.na
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[1] TRUE
Does this mean deparse() preserves NA-ness for NA_character_ but not
NA_real_?
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Subject: Re: [Rd] as.character(list(NA))
On 01/20/2018 08:24 AM, William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:
> I believe that for a list as.character() applies deparse() to
each element
> of the list. deparse() does not preserve NA-ness, as it is
intended to
> make text that the parser can read.
>
>> str(as.character(list(Na=NA, LglVec=c(TRUE,NA),
> Function=function(x){x+1})))
> chr [1:3] "NA" "c(TRUE, NA)" "function (x) \n{\n x + 1\n}"
>
This really comes as a surprise though since coercion to all the
other atomic types (except raw) preserve the NAs.
And also as.character(unlist(list(NA))) preserves them.
H.
>
> Bill Dunlap
> TIBCO Software
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> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Perry
mailto:ppe...@stern.nyu.edu>> wrote:
>
>> As of R Under development (unstable) (2018-01-19 r74138):
>>
>>> as.character(list(NA))
>> [1] "NA"
>>
>>> is.na
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>> [1] FALSE
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Re: [Rd] as.character(list(NA))
I tend to avoid using as. functions on lists, since they act oddly in
several ways.
E.g, if the list "L" consists entirely of scalar elements then
as.numeric(L) acts like
as.numeric(unlist(L)) but if any element is not a scalar there is an
error. as.character()
does not seem to make a distinction between the all-scalar and
not-all-scalar cases
but does various things with NA's of various types.
Bill Dunlap
TIBCO Software
wdunlap tibco.com
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Robert McGehee <
rmcge...@walleyetrading.net> wrote:
> Also perhaps a surprise that the behavior depends on the mode of the NA.
>
> > is.na(as.character(list(NA_real_)))
> [1] FALSE
> > is.na(as.character(list(NA_character_)))
> [1] TRUE
>
> Does this mean deparse() preserves NA-ness for NA_character_ but not
> NA_real_?
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [Rd] as.character(list(NA))
>
> On 01/20/2018 08:24 AM, William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:
> > I believe that for a list as.character() applies deparse() to each
> element
> > of the list. deparse() does not preserve NA-ness, as it is intended to
> > make text that the parser can read.
> >
> >> str(as.character(list(Na=NA, LglVec=c(TRUE,NA),
> > Function=function(x){x+1})))
> > chr [1:3] "NA" "c(TRUE, NA)" "function (x) \n{\nx + 1\n}"
> >
>
> This really comes as a surprise though since coercion to all the
> other atomic types (except raw) preserve the NAs.
>
> And also as.character(unlist(list(NA))) preserves them.
>
> H.
>
> >
> > Bill Dunlap
> > TIBCO Software
> > wdunlap tibco.com
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Perry
> wrote:
> >
> >> As of R Under development (unstable) (2018-01-19 r74138):
> >>
> >>> as.character(list(NA))
> >> [1] "NA"
> >>
> >>> is.na(as.character(list(NA)))
> >> [1] FALSE
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Re: [Rd] as.character(list(NA))
Also perhaps a surprise that the behavior depends on the mode of the NA.
> is.na(as.character(list(NA_real_)))
[1] FALSE
> is.na(as.character(list(NA_character_)))
[1] TRUE
Does this mean deparse() preserves NA-ness for NA_character_ but not NA_real_?
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Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 2:01 PM
To: William Dunlap ; Patrick Perry
Cc: r-devel@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [Rd] as.character(list(NA))
On 01/20/2018 08:24 AM, William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:
> I believe that for a list as.character() applies deparse() to each element
> of the list. deparse() does not preserve NA-ness, as it is intended to
> make text that the parser can read.
>
>> str(as.character(list(Na=NA, LglVec=c(TRUE,NA),
> Function=function(x){x+1})))
> chr [1:3] "NA" "c(TRUE, NA)" "function (x) \n{\nx + 1\n}"
>
This really comes as a surprise though since coercion to all the
other atomic types (except raw) preserve the NAs.
And also as.character(unlist(list(NA))) preserves them.
H.
>
> Bill Dunlap
> TIBCO Software
> wdunlap tibco.com
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Perry wrote:
>
>> As of R Under development (unstable) (2018-01-19 r74138):
>>
>>> as.character(list(NA))
>> [1] "NA"
>>
>>> is.na(as.character(list(NA)))
>> [1] FALSE
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Re: [Rd] as.character(list(NA))
On 01/20/2018 08:24 AM, William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:
I believe that for a list as.character() applies deparse() to each element
of the list. deparse() does not preserve NA-ness, as it is intended to
make text that the parser can read.
str(as.character(list(Na=NA, LglVec=c(TRUE,NA),
Function=function(x){x+1})))
chr [1:3] "NA" "c(TRUE, NA)" "function (x) \n{\nx + 1\n}"
This really comes as a surprise though since coercion to all the
other atomic types (except raw) preserve the NAs.
And also as.character(unlist(list(NA))) preserves them.
H.
Bill Dunlap
TIBCO Software
wdunlap tibco.com
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Perry wrote:
As of R Under development (unstable) (2018-01-19 r74138):
as.character(list(NA))
[1] "NA"
is.na(as.character(list(NA)))
[1] FALSE
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Re: [Rd] as.character(list(NA))
I believe that for a list as.character() applies deparse() to each element
of the list. deparse() does not preserve NA-ness, as it is intended to
make text that the parser can read.
> str(as.character(list(Na=NA, LglVec=c(TRUE,NA),
Function=function(x){x+1})))
chr [1:3] "NA" "c(TRUE, NA)" "function (x) \n{\nx + 1\n}"
Bill Dunlap
TIBCO Software
wdunlap tibco.com
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Perry wrote:
> As of R Under development (unstable) (2018-01-19 r74138):
>
> > as.character(list(NA))
> [1] "NA"
>
> > is.na(as.character(list(NA)))
> [1] FALSE
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Re: [Rd] as.character(list(NA))
On 20 January 2018 at 10:43, Patrick Perry wrote: | As of R Under development (unstable) (2018-01-19 r74138): | | > as.character(list(NA)) | [1] "NA" | | > is.na(as.character(list(NA))) | [1] FALSE Are you aware that this is the same in R-release, and might be "on purpose" ? R> R.Version()$version.string [1] "R version 3.4.3 (2017-11-30)" R> as.character(list(NA)) [1] "NA" R> is.na(as.character(list(NA))) [1] FALSE R> It is after all you who forces the as.character() and I don't think anybody claims that to be a lossless operation from logical. To wit: R> is.na(list(NA)) [1] TRUE R> Dirk -- http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
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