Re: [R] SEM raw moment matrix

2012-11-24 Thread Maya Abou Zeid
Dear John,

Many thanks for your response.
I'd just still like to double check that I have indeed used the raw moment 
matrix method correctly in sem. In my model, some equations are in deviations 
form and have no intercept, while some have intercept.


sem.QT.1 - sem(mod.QT.1, data=QTrav, formula = ~ X1 + X2 +  + UNIT -1, 
fixed.x=c('X1','X2',...,'UNIT'), raw=TRUE)

where UNIT is a variable equal to 1 which I appended to the dataset. I used 
UNIT multiplied by a constant in the model equations that require an intercept.

I mainly wanted to check if the above specification of formula, with -1 written 
after UNIT, is correct. The model runs fine.

Thank you,
Maya


-Original Message-
From: John Fox [mailto:j...@mcmaster.ca] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 2:39 PM
To: Maya Abou Zeid
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] SEM raw moment matrix

Dear Maya,

sem() computes the fit statistics that I know how to compute for a model fit to 
a raw moment matrix. If you know how to compute the others (and if they're 
defined), then you could do that youself using the object returned by sem().

I'm not sure why you want the likelihood under the model in addition to the 
model chisquare, but you can get the *log*-likelihood from logLik(your.model).

Finally, you don't have to compute the raw moment matrix in a separate step (if 
you in fact did that) if you have the original data -- you can use the data 
argument to sem().

I hope this helps,
 John


John Fox
Sen. William McMaster Prof. of Social Statistics
Department of Sociology
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/

On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:33:51 +0200
 Maya Abou Zeid ma...@aub.edu.lb wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I estimated a model using SEM package in R, which was fit to a raw moment 
 matrix, and includes an intercept term. The only goodness of fit statistics 
 that are output are Model Chisquare, AIC, AICc, BIC, CAIC, and normalized 
 residuals.
 
 How can I get the other goodness of fit statistics, like adjusted goodness of 
 fit, RMSEA, and R-squared? And how can I get the final value of the 
 log-likelihood of the model?
 
 Thanks,
 Maya
 
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Re: [R] SEM raw moment matrix

2012-11-24 Thread John Fox
Dear Maya,

I think that what you've done should work fine, though I'm not sure why you 
created your own UNIT variable rather than allowing sem() to generate the 
constant.

Best,
 John

On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:33:50 +0200
 Maya Abou Zeid ma...@aub.edu.lb wrote:
 Dear John,
 
 Many thanks for your response.
 I'd just still like to double check that I have indeed used the raw moment 
 matrix method correctly in sem. In my model, some equations are in deviations 
 form and have no intercept, while some have intercept.
 
 
 sem.QT.1 - sem(mod.QT.1, data=QTrav, formula = ~ X1 + X2 +  + UNIT -1, 
 fixed.x=c('X1','X2',...,'UNIT'), raw=TRUE)
 
 where UNIT is a variable equal to 1 which I appended to the dataset. I used 
 UNIT multiplied by a constant in the model equations that require an 
 intercept.
 
 I mainly wanted to check if the above specification of formula, with -1 
 written after UNIT, is correct. The model runs fine.
 
 Thank you,
 Maya
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Fox [mailto:j...@mcmaster.ca] 
 Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 2:39 PM
 To: Maya Abou Zeid
 Cc: r-help@r-project.org
 Subject: Re: [R] SEM raw moment matrix
 
 Dear Maya,
 
 sem() computes the fit statistics that I know how to compute for a model fit 
 to a raw moment matrix. If you know how to compute the others (and if they're 
 defined), then you could do that youself using the object returned by sem().
 
 I'm not sure why you want the likelihood under the model in addition to the 
 model chisquare, but you can get the *log*-likelihood from logLik(your.model).
 
 Finally, you don't have to compute the raw moment matrix in a separate step 
 (if you in fact did that) if you have the original data -- you can use the 
 data argument to sem().
 
 I hope this helps,
  John
 
 
 John Fox
 Sen. William McMaster Prof. of Social Statistics
 Department of Sociology
 McMaster University
 Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
 http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/
   
 On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:33:51 +0200
  Maya Abou Zeid ma...@aub.edu.lb wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I estimated a model using SEM package in R, which was fit to a raw moment 
  matrix, and includes an intercept term. The only goodness of fit statistics 
  that are output are Model Chisquare, AIC, AICc, BIC, CAIC, and normalized 
  residuals.
  
  How can I get the other goodness of fit statistics, like adjusted goodness 
  of fit, RMSEA, and R-squared? And how can I get the final value of the 
  log-likelihood of the model?
  
  Thanks,
  Maya
  
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Re: [R] SEM raw moment matrix

2012-11-23 Thread John Fox
Dear Maya,

sem() computes the fit statistics that I know how to compute for a model fit to 
a raw moment matrix. If you know how to compute the others (and if they're 
defined), then you could do that youself using the object returned by sem().

I'm not sure why you want the likelihood under the model in addition to the 
model chisquare, but you can get the *log*-likelihood from logLik(your.model).

Finally, you don't have to compute the raw moment matrix in a separate step (if 
you in fact did that) if you have the original data -- you can use the data 
argument to sem().

I hope this helps,
 John


John Fox
Sen. William McMaster Prof. of Social Statistics
Department of Sociology
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/

On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:33:51 +0200
 Maya Abou Zeid ma...@aub.edu.lb wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I estimated a model using SEM package in R, which was fit to a raw moment 
 matrix, and includes an intercept term. The only goodness of fit statistics 
 that are output are Model Chisquare, AIC, AICc, BIC, CAIC, and normalized 
 residuals.
 
 How can I get the other goodness of fit statistics, like adjusted goodness of 
 fit, RMSEA, and R-squared? And how can I get the final value of the 
 log-likelihood of the model?
 
 Thanks,
 Maya
 
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[R] SEM raw moment matrix

2012-11-22 Thread Maya Abou Zeid
Hello,

I estimated a model using SEM package in R, which was fit to a raw moment 
matrix, and includes an intercept term. The only goodness of fit statistics 
that are output are Model Chisquare, AIC, AICc, BIC, CAIC, and normalized 
residuals.

How can I get the other goodness of fit statistics, like adjusted goodness of 
fit, RMSEA, and R-squared? And how can I get the final value of the 
log-likelihood of the model?

Thanks,
Maya

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