Re: [R] Comparison between R and MATLAB
Shubha Vishwanath Karanth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can I get a comparison between R and MATLAB? How is R efficient than MATLAB? Or what are the weaknesses of R compared to MATLAB? Don't forget to compare licenses and cost. Matlab's rigid and unreasonable license is the main reason I use R now. Several years ago the Mathworks refused to let a post doc and me share a MatLab license -- they wanted all single-user licenses to be named users even if each of us only needed MatLab a few hours a month. I asked if they had a math model for what we got for a license, but they didn't care that there was a huge disconnect between what they wanted to sell and our usage needs. I quit using MatLab, converted my project from MatLab to R, and now steer as many people to R as possible. The Mathworks refuses to acknowledge that life-science users of math tools are not like physical science users. Biologists can spend weeks or months on experiments and then occasionally need high-end math tools for analysis. A single shared network MatLab license outside of academia is outrageously expensive. A single network concurrent license for Matlab and the Image processing, Signal Processing and PDE toolboxes costs $18,800 -- I received that quote just yesterday since we still have a few people that use existing MatLab code. MatLab may be a good product, but the Mathworks is unreasonable in how they license it. We are a non-profit, basic life scientific research institute and the Mathworks sells us the same license as for-profit businesses. Only degree-granting universities are eligible for academic pricing apparently. efg Earl F Glynn Bioinformatics Stowers Institute for Medical Research __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Comparison between R and MATLAB
The easy way around that is to create an account, Mathworks, with a common group that all who will use MatLab belong, then su - Mathworks should satisfy the license manager. Clint BowmanINTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Air Dispersion Modeler INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Air Quality Program VOICE: (360) 407-6815 Department of Ecology FAX:(360) 407-7534 USPS: PO Box 47600, Olympia, WA 98504-7600 Parcels:300 Desmond Drive, Lacey, WA 98503-1274 On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Earl F. Glynn wrote: Shubha Vishwanath Karanth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can I get a comparison between R and MATLAB? How is R efficient than MATLAB? Or what are the weaknesses of R compared to MATLAB? Don't forget to compare licenses and cost. Matlab's rigid and unreasonable license is the main reason I use R now. Several years ago the Mathworks refused to let a post doc and me share a MatLab license -- they wanted all single-user licenses to be named users even if each of us only needed MatLab a few hours a month. I asked if they had a math model for what we got for a license, but they didn't care that there was a huge disconnect between what they wanted to sell and our usage needs. I quit using MatLab, converted my project from MatLab to R, and now steer as many people to R as possible. The Mathworks refuses to acknowledge that life-science users of math tools are not like physical science users. Biologists can spend weeks or months on experiments and then occasionally need high-end math tools for analysis. A single shared network MatLab license outside of academia is outrageously expensive. A single network concurrent license for Matlab and the Image processing, Signal Processing and PDE toolboxes costs $18,800 -- I received that quote just yesterday since we still have a few people that use existing MatLab code. MatLab may be a good product, but the Mathworks is unreasonable in how they license it. We are a non-profit, basic life scientific research institute and the Mathworks sells us the same license as for-profit businesses. Only degree-granting universities are eligible for academic pricing apparently. efg Earl F Glynn Bioinformatics Stowers Institute for Medical Research __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Comparison between R and MATLAB
for many tasks, gnu octave (a 'matlab clone', no offense to gnu folks intended) is quite sufficient, and *free* (+ open source). you can run some of matlab code in octave. you should also check if sage (http://www.sagemath.org/) can do the job for you, it's stuffed with all sorts of maths utilities, with friendly python frontend, etc. and once you're at python's, check numpy, scipy, and matplotlib, which do lots of good work too. all open source, of course. vQ Clint Bowman wrote: The easy way around that is to create an account, Mathworks, with a common group that all who will use MatLab belong, then su - Mathworks should satisfy the license manager. Clint Bowman INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Air Dispersion ModelerINTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Air Quality Program VOICE: (360) 407-6815 Department of Ecology FAX:(360) 407-7534 USPS: PO Box 47600, Olympia, WA 98504-7600 Parcels:300 Desmond Drive, Lacey, WA 98503-1274 On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Earl F. Glynn wrote: Shubha Vishwanath Karanth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can I get a comparison between R and MATLAB? How is R efficient than MATLAB? Or what are the weaknesses of R compared to MATLAB? Don't forget to compare licenses and cost. Matlab's rigid and unreasonable license is the main reason I use R now. Several years ago the Mathworks refused to let a post doc and me share a MatLab license -- they wanted all single-user licenses to be named users even if each of us only needed MatLab a few hours a month. I asked if they had a math model for what we got for a license, but they didn't care that there was a huge disconnect between what they wanted to sell and our usage needs. I quit using MatLab, converted my project from MatLab to R, and now steer as many people to R as possible. The Mathworks refuses to acknowledge that life-science users of math tools are not like physical science users. Biologists can spend weeks or months on experiments and then occasionally need high-end math tools for analysis. A single shared network MatLab license outside of academia is outrageously expensive. A single network concurrent license for Matlab and the Image processing, Signal Processing and PDE toolboxes costs $18,800 -- I received that quote just yesterday since we still have a few people that use existing MatLab code. MatLab may be a good product, but the Mathworks is unreasonable in how they license it. We are a non-profit, basic life scientific research institute and the Mathworks sells us the same license as for-profit businesses. Only degree-granting universities are eligible for academic pricing apparently. efg Earl F Glynn Bioinformatics Stowers Institute for Medical Research __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. -- --- Wacek Kusnierczyk, MD PhD Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +47 73591875, +47 72574609 Department of Computer and Information Science (IDI) Faculty of Information Technology, Mathematics and Electrical Engineering (IME) Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) Sem Saelands vei 7, 7491 Trondheim, Norway Room itv303 Bioinformatics Gene Regulation Group Department of Cancer Research and Molecular Medicine (IKM) Faculty of Medicine (DMF) Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) Laboratory Center, Erling Skjalgsons gt. 1, 7030 Trondheim, Norway Room 231.05.060 __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Comparison between R and MATLAB
hi, my 0.2$ the rpy python module is excellent, in addition to those Wacek mentioned. another free alternative, particularly for graphics is scilab: http://www.scilab.org/ thanks, kevin - Original Message - From: Wacek Kusnierczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:47 pm Subject: Re: [R] Comparison between R and MATLAB for many tasks, gnu octave (a 'matlab clone', no offense to gnu folks intended) is quite sufficient, and *free* (+ open source). you can run some of matlab code in octave. you should also check if sage (http://www.sagemath.org/) can do the job for you, it's stuffed with all sorts of maths utilities, with friendly python frontend, etc. and once you're at python's, check numpy, scipy, and matplotlib, which do lots of good work too. all open source, of course. vQ Clint Bowman wrote: The easy way around that is to create an account, Mathworks, with a common group that all who will use MatLab belong, then su - Mathworks should satisfy the license manager. Clint BowmanINTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Air Dispersion Modeler INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Air Quality Program VOICE: (360) 407-6815 Department of Ecology FAX:(360) 407-7534 USPS: PO Box 47600, Olympia, WA 98504-7600 Parcels:300 Desmond Drive, Lacey, WA 98503-1274 On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Earl F. Glynn wrote: Shubha Vishwanath Karanth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MAILSRV02.Amba.com... Can I get a comparison between R and MATLAB? How is R efficient than MATLAB? Or what are the weaknesses of R compared to MATLAB? Don't forget to compare licenses and cost. Matlab's rigid and unreasonable license is the main reason I use R now. Several years ago the Mathworks refused to let a post doc and me share a MatLab license -- they wanted all single-user licenses to be named users even if each of us only needed MatLab a few hours a month. I asked if they had a math model for what we got for a license, but they didn't care that there was a huge disconnect between what they wanted to sell and our usage needs. I quit using MatLab, converted my project from MatLab to R, and now steer as many people to R as possible. The Mathworks refuses to acknowledge that life-science users of math tools are not like physical science users. Biologists can spend weeks or months on experiments and then occasionally need high-end math tools for analysis. A single shared network MatLab license outside of academia is outrageously expensive. A single network concurrent license for Matlab and the Image processing, Signal Processing and PDE toolboxes costs $18,800 -- I received that quote just yesterday since we still have a few people that use existing MatLab code. MatLab may be a good product, but the Mathworks is unreasonable in how they license it. We are a non-profit, basic life scientific research institute and the Mathworks sells us the same license as for-profit businesses. Only degree-granting universities are eligible for academic pricing apparently. efg Earl F Glynn Bioinformatics Stowers Institute for Medical Research __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R- project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R- project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. -- --- Wacek Kusnierczyk, MD PhD Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +47 73591875, +47 72574609 Department of Computer and Information Science (IDI) Faculty of Information Technology, Mathematics and Electrical Engineering (IME) Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) Sem Saelands vei 7, 7491 Trondheim, Norway Room itv303 Bioinformatics Gene Regulation Group Department of Cancer Research and Molecular Medicine (IKM) Faculty of Medicine (DMF) Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) Laboratory Center, Erling Skjalgsons gt. 1, 7030 Trondheim, Norway Room 231.05.060 __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- guide.htmland provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing
Re: [R] Comparison between R and MATLAB
Kevin J. Thompson wrote: hi, my 0.2$ the rpy python module is excellent, in addition to those Wacek mentioned. another free alternative, particularly for graphics is scilab: http://www.scilab.org/ for scilab there is the rscilab module, so that we are with r again. vQ __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
[R] Comparison between R and MATLAB
Hi R,
Can I get a comparison between R and MATLAB? How is R efficient than MATLAB? Or
what are the weaknesses of R compared to MATLAB?
Thank you very much for your help,
Shubha
Shubha Karanth | Amba Research
Ph +91 80 3980 8031 | Mob +91 94 4886 4510
Bangalore * Colombo * London * New York * San José * Singapore *
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Re: [R] Comparison between R and MATLAB
This discussion has already occurred- to my knowledge at least once. I
would suggest searching the archived list, and see what you get. If you
still have questions after you have a look then fire a couple of specifics,
but speaking for myself I don't know anything about matlab only S (and even
that is limited).
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Shubha Vishwanath Karanth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi R,
Can I get a comparison between R and MATLAB? How is R efficient than
MATLAB? Or what are the weaknesses of R compared to MATLAB?
Thank you very much for your help,
Shubha
Shubha Karanth | Amba Research
Ph +91 80 3980 8031 | Mob +91 94 4886 4510
Bangalore * Colombo * London * New York * San José * Singapore *
www.ambaresearch.com
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Re: [R] Comparison between R and MATLAB
The short answer on comparing R and Matlab is that it depends on
your benchmark and which church you happen to frequent. Some people
swear that Matlab is superior, but I haven't seen the evidence for
that. The benchmarks that come closer to being transparent are more
equivocal, as far as I seen. Spencer Graves
stephen sefick wrote:
This discussion has already occurred- to my knowledge at least once. I
would suggest searching the archived list, and see what you get. If you
still have questions after you have a look then fire a couple of specifics,
but speaking for myself I don't know anything about matlab only S (and even
that is limited).
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Shubha Vishwanath Karanth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi R,
Can I get a comparison between R and MATLAB? How is R efficient than
MATLAB? Or what are the weaknesses of R compared to MATLAB?
Thank you very much for your help,
Shubha
Shubha Karanth | Amba Research
Ph +91 80 3980 8031 | Mob +91 94 4886 4510
Bangalore * Colombo * London * New York * San José * Singapore *
www.ambaresearch.com
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