Re: [R] Huge number

2008-02-19 Thread Lucke, Joseph F
Use lchoose and use logarithms throughout.

 x=666
 y=1287
 lchoose(x+y,x)-(x+y)*log(2)
[1] -104.4265
 Pxy = exp(lchoose(x+y,x)-(x+y)*log(2))
[1] 4.447787e-46  

Joe

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Hi,
I'm trying to calculate p-value to findout definitely expressed genes
compare A to B situation.
I got this data(this is a part of data) from whole organism , and each
number means each expression values (that means, we could think 'a' gene
is 13 in A situation, and it turns 30 in B situation) To findout
probability, I'm going to use Audic - Claverie Method. ( The
significance of digital gene expression profiles. 1997)
 
But using this equation p(x|y), I have to calculate (x+y)!  first. but I
can't  calculate (157+221)! or (666+1387)! in R.
That's probabily the handling problem of huge number, How could I
calculate p value in this data with R? 
 
 
 A B 
Total5874641 6295980
a13  30 
b36  39 
c0   5  
d40  61 
e16  20 
f13  11 
g3   3  
h9   5  
i12  35 
j157 221
k17  39 
l6   17 
m666 1387   
n2   5  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

The significance of digital gene expression profiles.

Audic S
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmedCmd=SearchTerm=%22A
udic%20S%22%5BAuthor%5Ditool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_Result
sPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1 , Claverie JM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmedCmd=SearchTerm=%22C
laverie%20JM%22%5BAuthor%5Ditool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_Re
sultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1 .

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Re: [R] Huge number

2008-02-18 Thread jim holtman
If you want to compute (157+221)! then sum up the log:

 a - 1:(157+221)
 sum(log10(a))
[1] 811.8165

This is about 6.55e811 which exceeds the range of floating point
numbers (1.797693e+308).  You might check out the Brobdingnag package.

On Feb 18, 2008 6:23 PM, Hyojin Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm trying to calculate p-value to findout definitely expressed genes
 compare A to B situation.
 I got this data(this is a part of data) from whole organism , and each
 number means each expression values (that means, we could think 'a' gene
 is 13 in A situation, and it turns 30 in B situation)
 To findout probability, I'm going to use Audic - Claverie Method. ( The
 significance of digital gene expression profiles. 1997)

 But using this equation p(x|y), I have to calculate (x+y)!  first. but I
 can't  calculate (157+221)! or (666+1387)! in R.
 That's probabily the handling problem of huge number, How could I
 calculate p value in this data with R?


 A B
 Total5874641 6295980
 a13  30
 b36  39
 c0   5
 d40  61
 e16  20
 f13  11
 g3   3
 h9   5
 i12  35
 j157 221
 k17  39
 l6   17
 m666 1387
 n2   5









 The significance of digital gene expression profiles.

 Audic S
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmedCmd=SearchTerm=%22A
 udic%20S%22%5BAuthor%5Ditool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_Result
 sPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1 , Claverie JM
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmedCmd=SearchTerm=%22C
 laverie%20JM%22%5BAuthor%5Ditool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_Re
 sultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1 .

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[R] Huge number

2008-02-18 Thread Hyojin Lee
Hi, 
I'm trying to calculate p-value to findout definitely expressed genes
compare A to B situation.
I got this data(this is a part of data) from whole organism , and each
number means each expression values (that means, we could think 'a' gene
is 13 in A situation, and it turns 30 in B situation) 
To findout probability, I'm going to use Audic - Claverie Method. ( The
significance of digital gene expression profiles. 1997)
 
But using this equation p(x|y), I have to calculate (x+y)!  first. but I
can't  calculate (157+221)! or (666+1387)! in R.
That's probabily the handling problem of huge number, How could I
calculate p value in this data with R? 
 
 
 A B 
Total5874641 6295980
a13  30 
b36  39 
c0   5  
d40  61 
e16  20 
f13  11 
g3   3  
h9   5  
i12  35 
j157 221
k17  39 
l6   17 
m666 1387   
n2   5  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

The significance of digital gene expression profiles.

Audic S
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmedCmd=SearchTerm=%22A
udic%20S%22%5BAuthor%5Ditool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_Result
sPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1 , Claverie JM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmedCmd=SearchTerm=%22C
laverie%20JM%22%5BAuthor%5Ditool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_Re
sultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1 .

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