Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-29 Thread peter dalgaard

On Mar 28, 2013, at 22:27 , Thomas Adams wrote:

 All,
 
 Well to my relief and embarrassment, I discovered my problem. About 5 weeks
 ago, I shutdown my computer and moved it. When I reconnected everything I
 apparently plugged my HDMI monitor into the 'wrong' output port without
 realizing it. So, on a whim, just now, I made the switch to the other port
 and presto changeo -- problem solved!! The odd thing was, besides my R
 graphics device window problems, everything else was fine...
 
 Out of curiosity, can anyone explain this?

My best guess is that the pixel resolution was taken from the disconnected 
primary display and set to some safe standard value like 640x480, 
miscalculating the dimensions of your display, so that it ended up with huge 
virtual inches. 

The reason everything else didn't notice could be that they work in pixel units 
rather than physical units.

(There seems to be no really perfect solution to the problem of setting default 
dimensions: Pixel count gives stamp-sized graphs on hi-res displays, physical 
dimensions are meaningless on projectors and not really what you want on a tiny 
screen, and percent of display area is undue imperialism if you have a large 
monitor, intending to overlook many windows at once.) 

 
 Thanks for all the help...
 
 Tom
 
 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Thomas Adams tea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Luca,
 
 Thank you for the suggestion; I do have an Nvidia graphics card and I am
 using the Nvida driver; still searching for a solution, quite odd...
 
 Tom
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Luca Nanetti luca.nane...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Thomas,
 any chance that you could have problems with your graphic driver? For
 instance, if you have an Nvidia graphic card, I would recommend switching
 from the 'nouveau' driver to the official Nvidia one.
 
 Kind regards,
 luca
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-29 Thread Thomas Adams
Thank you Peter, that sounds pretty reasonable.

Best,
Tom

On Friday, March 29, 2013, peter dalgaard wrote:


 On Mar 28, 2013, at 22:27 , Thomas Adams wrote:

  All,
 
  Well to my relief and embarrassment, I discovered my problem. About 5
 weeks
  ago, I shutdown my computer and moved it. When I reconnected everything I
  apparently plugged my HDMI monitor into the 'wrong' output port without
  realizing it. So, on a whim, just now, I made the switch to the other
 port
  and presto changeo -- problem solved!! The odd thing was, besides my R
  graphics device window problems, everything else was fine...
 
  Out of curiosity, can anyone explain this?

 My best guess is that the pixel resolution was taken from the disconnected
 primary display and set to some safe standard value like 640x480,
 miscalculating the dimensions of your display, so that it ended up with
 huge virtual inches.

 The reason everything else didn't notice could be that they work in pixel
 units rather than physical units.

 (There seems to be no really perfect solution to the problem of setting
 default dimensions: Pixel count gives stamp-sized graphs on hi-res
 displays, physical dimensions are meaningless on projectors and not really
 what you want on a tiny screen, and percent of display area is undue
 imperialism if you have a large monitor, intending to overlook many
 windows at once.)

 
  Thanks for all the help...
 
  Tom
 
  On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Thomas Adams 
  tea...@gmail.comjavascript:;
 wrote:
 
  Luca,
 
  Thank you for the suggestion; I do have an Nvidia graphics card and I am
  using the Nvida driver; still searching for a solution, quite odd...
 
  Tom
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Luca Nanetti 
  luca.nane...@gmail.comjavascript:;
 wrote:
 
  Thomas,
  any chance that you could have problems with your graphic driver? For
  instance, if you have an Nvidia graphic card, I would recommend
 switching
  from the 'nouveau' driver to the official Nvidia one.
 
  Kind regards,
  luca
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-28 Thread Luca Nanetti
Thomas,
any chance that you could have problems with your graphic driver? For
instance, if you have an Nvidia graphic card, I would recommend switching
from the 'nouveau' driver to the official Nvidia one.

Kind regards,
luca

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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Adams
Luca,

Thank you for the suggestion; I do have an Nvidia graphics card and I am
using the Nvida driver; still searching for a solution, quite odd...

Tom

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Luca Nanetti luca.nane...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thomas,
 any chance that you could have problems with your graphic driver? For
 instance, if you have an Nvidia graphic card, I would recommend switching
 from the 'nouveau' driver to the official Nvidia one.

 Kind regards,
 luca


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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Adams
All,

Well to my relief and embarrassment, I discovered my problem. About 5 weeks
ago, I shutdown my computer and moved it. When I reconnected everything I
apparently plugged my HDMI monitor into the 'wrong' output port without
realizing it. So, on a whim, just now, I made the switch to the other port
and presto changeo -- problem solved!! The odd thing was, besides my R
graphics device window problems, everything else was fine...

Out of curiosity, can anyone explain this?

Thanks for all the help...

Tom

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Thomas Adams tea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Luca,

 Thank you for the suggestion; I do have an Nvidia graphics card and I am
 using the Nvida driver; still searching for a solution, quite odd...

 Tom


 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Luca Nanetti luca.nane...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thomas,
 any chance that you could have problems with your graphic driver? For
 instance, if you have an Nvidia graphic card, I would recommend switching
 from the 'nouveau' driver to the official Nvidia one.

 Kind regards,
 luca






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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-27 Thread John Kane
Any chance that you made an earlier call to par() resetting cex in your 
session?  I just had that happen.

John Kane
Kingston ON Canada


 -Original Message-
 From: tea...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:15:33 -0400
 To: r-help@r-project.org
 Subject: [R] Odd graphic device behavior
 
 I'm experiencing odd graphics device behavior running R 2.15.3 on Ubuntu.
 Regardless of what I try like:
 
 require(stats)
 plot(cars)
 lines(lowess(cars))
 plot(sin, -pi, 2*pi)
 
 for example, the graphics device fills the entire screen with the graphic
 and a very large font. When I shrink the graphics device window, the
 lettering remains large and the line thicknesses stay quite thick. It may
 have been some time since I have done any R work on my Ubuntu computer,
 but
 clearly this did not happen previously.
 
 Does anyone have any thoughts?
 
 Thank you,
 Tom
 
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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-27 Thread Thomas Adams
John,

Thanks for the suggestion, but no. I have even gone so far as to rebuild R
from source, re-booted my computer, and tried the 'experiment':

 require(stats)
 plot(cars)

immediately after starting R. Still the same result. I think it must be
related to some default Ubuntu Unity window manager default I can't sort
out.

Regards,
Tom


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM, John Kane jrkrid...@inbox.com wrote:

 Any chance that you made an earlier call to par() resetting cex in your
 session?  I just had that happen.

 John Kane
 Kingston ON Canada


  -Original Message-
  From: tea...@gmail.com
  Sent: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:15:33 -0400
  To: r-help@r-project.org
  Subject: [R] Odd graphic device behavior
 
  I'm experiencing odd graphics device behavior running R 2.15.3 on Ubuntu.
  Regardless of what I try like:
 
  require(stats)
  plot(cars)
  lines(lowess(cars))
  plot(sin, -pi, 2*pi)
 
  for example, the graphics device fills the entire screen with the graphic
  and a very large font. When I shrink the graphics device window, the
  lettering remains large and the line thicknesses stay quite thick. It may
  have been some time since I have done any R work on my Ubuntu computer,
  but
  clearly this did not happen previously.
 
  Does anyone have any thoughts?
 
  Thank you,
  Tom
 
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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-27 Thread David Winsemius

On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Thomas Adams wrote:

 John,
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, but no. I have even gone so far as to rebuild R
 from source, re-booted my computer, and tried the 'experiment':
 
 require(stats)
 plot(cars)
 
 immediately after starting R. Still the same result. I think it must be
 related to some default Ubuntu Unity window manager default I can't sort
 out.

Have your deleted the default workspace and history files? When they get 
corrupted, odd things can happen.


 
 Regards,
 Tom
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM, John Kane jrkrid...@inbox.com wrote:
 
 Any chance that you made an earlier call to par() resetting cex in your
 session?  I just had that happen.
 
 John Kane
 Kingston ON Canada
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: tea...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:15:33 -0400
 To: r-help@r-project.org
 Subject: [R] Odd graphic device behavior
 
 I'm experiencing odd graphics device behavior running R 2.15.3 on Ubuntu.
 Regardless of what I try like:
 
 require(stats)
 plot(cars)
 lines(lowess(cars))
 plot(sin, -pi, 2*pi)
 
 for example, the graphics device fills the entire screen with the graphic
 and a very large font. When I shrink the graphics device window, the
 lettering remains large and the line thicknesses stay quite thick. It may
 have been some time since I have done any R work on my Ubuntu computer,
 but
 clearly this did not happen previously.
 
 Does anyone have any thoughts?
 
 Thank you,
 Tom
 
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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-27 Thread peter dalgaard

On Mar 27, 2013, at 18:11 , David Winsemius wrote:

 
 On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Thomas Adams wrote:
 
 John,
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, but no. I have even gone so far as to rebuild R
 from source, re-booted my computer, and tried the 'experiment':
 
require(stats)
plot(cars)
 
 immediately after starting R. Still the same result. I think it must be
 related to some default Ubuntu Unity window manager default I can't sort
 out.
 
 Have your deleted the default workspace and history files? When they get 
 corrupted, odd things can happen.
 

...or try R --vanilla

The immediate suspicion is that something is tampering with your graphics 
device options, so

- figure out what device you are using (dev.list())
- if it is X11, have a look at X11.options()
- try running X11(width=7, height=7) to see if the automagic settings get it 
wrong.

- try system(xdpyinfo); this may give a long list of gibberish, but look  for 
dimensions and resolution and see if they look sane. E.g., I get

screen #0:
  dimensions:2560x1418 pixels (677x375 millimeters)
  resolution:96x96 dots per inch




 
 
 Regards,
 Tom
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM, John Kane jrkrid...@inbox.com wrote:
 
 Any chance that you made an earlier call to par() resetting cex in your
 session?  I just had that happen.
 
 John Kane
 Kingston ON Canada
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: tea...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:15:33 -0400
 To: r-help@r-project.org
 Subject: [R] Odd graphic device behavior
 
 I'm experiencing odd graphics device behavior running R 2.15.3 on Ubuntu.
 Regardless of what I try like:
 
 require(stats)
 plot(cars)
 lines(lowess(cars))
 plot(sin, -pi, 2*pi)
 
 for example, the graphics device fills the entire screen with the graphic
 and a very large font. When I shrink the graphics device window, the
 lettering remains large and the line thicknesses stay quite thick. It may
 have been some time since I have done any R work on my Ubuntu computer,
 but
 clearly this did not happen previously.
 
 Does anyone have any thoughts?
 
 Thank you,
 Tom
 
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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-27 Thread Thomas Adams
Peter,

Thank you.

When I run: X11(width=7, height=7), I get the same full-screen graphics
device window.
Running dev.list() gives me X11cairo
Running system(xdpyinfo) looks reasonable

I tried running options(device=x11) at the R prompt, but this did not
seem to change anything.

When I started R with R --vanilla and then did:

 require(stats)
  plot(cars)

I got:

Error in plot.new() : figure margins too large

... but the window was a reasonable size. However, after I resized the
graphics device window modestly and re-ran plot(cars), the plot was
generated in the resized window, but the lettering was large as before and
the lines were thick as they were previously.

Regards,
Tom


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:43 PM, peter dalgaard pda...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Mar 27, 2013, at 18:11 , David Winsemius wrote:

 
  On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Thomas Adams wrote:
 
  John,
 
  Thanks for the suggestion, but no. I have even gone so far as to
 rebuild R
  from source, re-booted my computer, and tried the 'experiment':
 
 require(stats)
 plot(cars)
 
  immediately after starting R. Still the same result. I think it must be
  related to some default Ubuntu Unity window manager default I can't sort
  out.
 
  Have your deleted the default workspace and history files? When they get
 corrupted, odd things can happen.
 

 ...or try R --vanilla

 The immediate suspicion is that something is tampering with your graphics
 device options, so

 - figure out what device you are using (dev.list())
 - if it is X11, have a look at X11.options()
 - try running X11(width=7, height=7) to see if the automagic settings get
 it wrong.

 - try system(xdpyinfo); this may give a long list of gibberish, but look
  for dimensions and resolution and see if they look sane. E.g., I get

 screen #0:
   dimensions:2560x1418 pixels (677x375 millimeters)
   resolution:96x96 dots per inch




 
 
  Regards,
  Tom
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM, John Kane jrkrid...@inbox.com
 wrote:
 
  Any chance that you made an earlier call to par() resetting cex in your
  session?  I just had that happen.
 
  John Kane
  Kingston ON Canada
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: tea...@gmail.com
  Sent: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:15:33 -0400
  To: r-help@r-project.org
  Subject: [R] Odd graphic device behavior
 
  I'm experiencing odd graphics device behavior running R 2.15.3 on
 Ubuntu.
  Regardless of what I try like:
 
  require(stats)
  plot(cars)
  lines(lowess(cars))
  plot(sin, -pi, 2*pi)
 
  for example, the graphics device fills the entire screen with the
 graphic
  and a very large font. When I shrink the graphics device window, the
  lettering remains large and the line thicknesses stay quite thick. It
 may
  have been some time since I have done any R work on my Ubuntu
 computer,
  but
  clearly this did not happen previously.
 
  Does anyone have any thoughts?
 
  Thank you,
  Tom
 
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Re: [R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-27 Thread peter dalgaard

On Mar 27, 2013, at 19:26 , Thomas Adams wrote:

 Peter,
 
 Thank you. 
 
 When I run: X11(width=7, height=7), I get the same full-screen graphics 
 device window.
 Running dev.list() gives me X11cairo
 Running system(xdpyinfo) looks reasonable
 
 I tried running options(device=x11) at the R prompt, but this did not seem 
 to change anything.

And X11.options() said what?

 
 When I started R with R --vanilla and then did:
 
  require(stats)
   plot(cars)
 
 I got:
 
 Error in plot.new() : figure margins too large
 
 ... but the window was a reasonable size. However, after I resized the 
 graphics device window modestly and re-ran plot(cars), the plot was generated 
 in the resized window, but the lettering was large as before and the lines 
 were thick as they were previously.

Something's clearly up with the device's notion of pointsize. Or inches.

-- 
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Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
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[R] Odd graphic device behavior

2013-03-26 Thread Thomas Adams
I'm experiencing odd graphics device behavior running R 2.15.3 on Ubuntu.
Regardless of what I try like:

require(stats)
plot(cars)
lines(lowess(cars))
plot(sin, -pi, 2*pi)

for example, the graphics device fills the entire screen with the graphic
and a very large font. When I shrink the graphics device window, the
lettering remains large and the line thicknesses stay quite thick. It may
have been some time since I have done any R work on my Ubuntu computer, but
clearly this did not happen previously.

Does anyone have any thoughts?

Thank you,
Tom

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