Re: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
Well said Clive. Thanks. Bulent On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 21:47 Clive Nicholas via R-help wrote: > On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote: > > Let’s not alienate the business users! > > > > I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of > questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the > right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here. > > > > Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would > get an answer here. > > > > So please - not alienate the business users. > > > > Cheers and good luck with Windows. > > On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate > tobacco companies. > > cheers, > > Rolf Turner > > -- > > And I'm down with this moral sentiment 10,000%. > > I frankly couldn't believe what I was reading whilst perusing the digest, > and from whom. This smug bloke thinks he can land his 14-ton todger onto > the list, demand answers by a fixed deadline, and all in the service of > doing his bit to help replace the 7 million tobacco users who die every > year - according to the World Health Organisation - with preferably new, > young customers for the likes of PMI to sell their cancer sticks. > > Disgusting. *Absolutely* disgusting! What on Bod's Earth are we doing > helping these people? They should be nowhere near this list. Do you hear > that, Philip Morris Angel of Death? I sincerely hope you crash and burn. > > -- > Clive Nicholas > > "My colleagues in the social sciences talk a great deal about methodology. > I prefer to call it style." -- Freeman J. Dyson > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > __ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
Nice virtue signalling, feel better now? On Fri, Aug 3, 2018, 3:47 PM Clive Nicholas via R-help wrote: > On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote: > > Let’s not alienate the business users! > > > > I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of > questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the > right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here. > > > > Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would > get an answer here. > > > > So please - not alienate the business users. > > > > Cheers and good luck with Windows. > > On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate > tobacco companies. > > cheers, > > Rolf Turner > > -- > > And I'm down with this moral sentiment 10,000%. > > I frankly couldn't believe what I was reading whilst perusing the digest, > and from whom. This smug bloke thinks he can land his 14-ton todger onto > the list, demand answers by a fixed deadline, and all in the service of > doing his bit to help replace the 7 million tobacco users who die every > year - according to the World Health Organisation - with preferably new, > young customers for the likes of PMI to sell their cancer sticks. > > Disgusting. *Absolutely* disgusting! What on Bod's Earth are we doing > helping these people? They should be nowhere near this list. Do you hear > that, Philip Morris Angel of Death? I sincerely hope you crash and burn. > > -- > Clive Nicholas > > "My colleagues in the social sciences talk a great deal about methodology. > I prefer to call it style." -- Freeman J. Dyson > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > __ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote: > Let’s not alienate the business users! > > I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here. > > Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would get an answer here. > > So please - not alienate the business users. > > Cheers and good luck with Windows. On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate tobacco companies. cheers, Rolf Turner -- And I'm down with this moral sentiment 10,000%. I frankly couldn't believe what I was reading whilst perusing the digest, and from whom. This smug bloke thinks he can land his 14-ton todger onto the list, demand answers by a fixed deadline, and all in the service of doing his bit to help replace the 7 million tobacco users who die every year - according to the World Health Organisation - with preferably new, young customers for the likes of PMI to sell their cancer sticks. Disgusting. *Absolutely* disgusting! What on Bod's Earth are we doing helping these people? They should be nowhere near this list. Do you hear that, Philip Morris Angel of Death? I sincerely hope you crash and burn. -- Clive Nicholas "My colleagues in the social sciences talk a great deal about methodology. I prefer to call it style." -- Freeman J. Dyson [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
Hi Kevin, For what it's worth I use R on Windows 10 Pro with the 16299 build (and also with a later build on a different Windows 10 Pro computer.) I also use R on Linux machines (specifically Ubuntu). I use 64 bit versions but both 32bit and 64bit version are available. As Peter wrote previously, R itself has no dependency on MS Office products. However there are thousands of R packages freely downloadable (e.g. from CRAN but also from other sources.) Some of these packages may have explicit dependencies on commercial packages. (e.g. Rmosek is a free package that makes it easy to access the commercial optimization software mosek.) Peter also wrote that the latest release of R is version 3.5.1 which makes your referenced versions quite old. As far as I know it is generally possible to install any version of R (even multiple versions of R) on your computer. For example, when R 3.5.0 was released recently some users experienced some glitches (some of which have presumably been fixed in 3.5.1.) Personally I am staying with R 3.4.2 for a while longer. If PMI requires "commercial" support and has the budget for it, you might consider contacting Rstudio.com which produces some of the major software tools used by the R community - Rstudio and Shiny and additional R packages. They provide both free and commercial versions of RStudio and Shiny and should have a lot of experience dealing with corporate customers. Also by supporting them PMI would be indirectly supporting the R community at large which greatly benefits from the work they do. I hope that helps. Regards, Eric Berger On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Rolf Turner wrote: > On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote: > >> Let’s not alienate the business users! >> >> I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of >> questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the >> right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here. >> >> Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would >> get an answer here. >> >> So please - not alienate the business users. >> >> Cheers and good luck with Windows. >> > > On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate > tobacco companies. > > cheers, > > Rolf Turner > > -- > Technical Editor ANZJS > Department of Statistics > University of Auckland > Phone: +64-9-373-7599 ext. 88276 > > > __ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posti > ng-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
On 03/08/18 19:03, Rainer Krug wrote: Let’s not alienate the business users! I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here. Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would get an answer here. So please - not alienate the business users. Cheers and good luck with Windows. On the contrary, I would say that one has a moral obligation to alienate tobacco companies. cheers, Rolf Turner -- Technical Editor ANZJS Department of Statistics University of Auckland Phone: +64-9-373-7599 ext. 88276 __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
It is difficult to answer such questions authoritatively, but - we have, to my recollection, no reports of major incompatibility with Windows 10 - however, the version numbers of R increase with .1 per year, and we are currently at 3.5.1, so your versions are 4 and 5 years out of date. Most users are upgraded at least annually, so problems with older versions could go undetected - there is no external cost of migrating to a newer version. R is free software. Rolling it out within an organization could require some manpower, as could sorting out changed behaviour of R and its add-on packages. It should be fairly easy to do a test install of 3.5.1 and run it by your user base to see whether there are issues. - R works cross-platform and has no specific dependency on MS Office products - R can interact with Java, but Java is not generally a prerequisite. You may want to check whether your users use packages with Java dependencies - Peter Dalgaard > On 2 Aug 2018, at 10:45 , Flament, Kevin wrote: > > Dear R Project team, > > I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris > International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project. > This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would > require an answer to this email by the end of this week. > > I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software we > are using at PMI : > > R for Windows 3.0.2 > R for Windows 3.1.2 > > Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version > 10.0.16299 build 16299)? > Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version > 14393.2399)? > Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows 10? > Are those application dependent on MS Office? > Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle. > > If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this > software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10? > What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if > necessary, licence cost, ...)? > > If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available, > could you give me an estimation for the future release availability? > > Best Regards, > > Kevin Flament > > Data & Systems Specialist > PMI Science and Innovation > Quai Jeanrenaud 3 > 2000 Neuch�tel > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > __ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. -- Peter Dalgaard, Professor, Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark Phone: (+45)38153501 Office: A 4.23 Email: pd@cbs.dk Priv: pda...@gmail.com __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
Let’s not alienate the business users! I agree that this is not the right / best forum to ask these type of questions, but where is? I would suggest to at least point them to the right resources. and not say that there questions are inappropriate here. Actually, if I as a private user would ask that question, I guess I would get an answer here. So please - not alienate the business users. Cheers and good luck with Windows, Rainer > On 2 Aug 2018, at 16:54, Bert Gunter wrote: > > R is free and open source. Your queries are inappropriate for this list, > which is about help for programming in R. Please go here and follow the > relevant links to answer your questions: > > https://www.r-project.org/ > > Cheers, > Bert > > > > Bert Gunter > > "The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming along and > sticking things into it." > -- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip ) > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:45 AM, Flament, Kevin > wrote: > >> Dear R Project team, >> >> I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris >> International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project. >> This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would >> require an answer to this email by the end of this week. >> >> I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software >> we are using at PMI : >> >> R for Windows 3.0.2 >> R for Windows 3.1.2 >> >> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version >> 10.0.16299 build 16299)? >> Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version >> 14393.2399)? >> Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows >> 10? >> Are those application dependent on MS Office? >> Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle. >> >> If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this >> software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10? >> What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if >> necessary, licence cost, ...)? >> >> If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available, >> could you give me an estimation for the future release availability? >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Kevin Flament >> >> Data & Systems Specialist >> PMI Science and Innovation >> Quai Jeanrenaud 3 >> 2000 Neuchâtel >> >>[[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >> >> __ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/ >> posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> >> > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > __ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) University of Zürich Cell: +41 (0)78 630 66 57 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug PGP: 0x0F52F982 signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
R is free and open source. Your queries are inappropriate for this list, which is about help for programming in R. Please go here and follow the relevant links to answer your questions: https://www.r-project.org/ Cheers, Bert Bert Gunter "The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming along and sticking things into it." -- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip ) On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:45 AM, Flament, Kevin wrote: > Dear R Project team, > > I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris > International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project. > This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would > require an answer to this email by the end of this week. > > I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software > we are using at PMI : > > R for Windows 3.0.2 > R for Windows 3.1.2 > > Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version > 10.0.16299 build 16299)? > Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version > 14393.2399)? > Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows > 10? > Are those application dependent on MS Office? > Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle. > > If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this > software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10? > What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if > necessary, licence cost, ...)? > > If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available, > could you give me an estimation for the future release availability? > > Best Regards, > > Kevin Flament > > Data & Systems Specialist > PMI Science and Innovation > Quai Jeanrenaud 3 > 2000 Neuchâtel > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > __ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/ > posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
Suggest you take a look at the R website at www.r-project.org; the most important answers are evident there. If you 'require' more authoritative answers within a particular timescale, I suggest you engage an R consultant and pay for them. This is a voluntary list. S Ellison > -Original Message- > From: R-help [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Flament, > Kevin > Sent: 02 August 2018 09:45 > To: r-help@R-project.org > Subject: [R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment > > Dear R Project team, > > I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris > International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project. > This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would > require an answer to this email by the end of this week. > > I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software we > are using at PMI : > > R for Windows 3.0.2 > R for Windows 3.1.2 > > Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version > 10.0.16299 build 16299)? > Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version > 14393.2399)? > Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows > 10? > Are those application dependent on MS Office? > Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle. > > If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this > software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10? > What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if > necessary, licence cost, ...)? > > If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available, > could you give me an estimation for the future release availability? > > Best Regards, > > Kevin Flament > > Data & Systems Specialist > PMI Science and Innovation > Quai Jeanrenaud 3 > 2000 Neuch�tel > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] *** This email and any attachments are confidential. Any use, copying or disclosure other than by the intended recipient is unauthorised. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately via +44(0)20 8943 7000 or notify postmas...@lgcgroup.com and delete this message and any copies from your computer and network. LGC Limited. Registered in England 2991879. Registered office: Queens Road, Teddington, Middlesex, TW11 0LY, UK __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
[R] Philip Morris International - Windows10 migration assessment
Dear R Project team, I am representing the System Toxicology department of Philip Morris International in the scope of a Windows 10 migration project. This project is currently at the end of the assessment phase. We would require an answer to this email by the end of this week. I would like to ask you some questions related to the following software we are using at PMI : R for Windows 3.0.2 R for Windows 3.1.2 Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 Enterprise (version 10.0.16299 build 16299)? Are all of those software compatible with Windows 10 LTSC (version 14393.2399)? Are those software compatible with a 32 and/or 64 bit version of Windows 10? Are those application dependent on MS Office? Have those applications any pre-requisites? Such as Java, .Net, Oracle. If the software are not compatible, do you have a new version of this software compatible with the mentioned version of Windows 10? What would be the cost of such migration (instrument replacement if necessary, licence cost, ...)? If the software are not compatible and a new version is not yet available, could you give me an estimation for the future release availability? Best Regards, Kevin Flament Data & Systems Specialist PMI Science and Innovation Quai Jeanrenaud 3 2000 Neuch�tel [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
