Re: [R] Post-Hoc tests for Friedman Test?

2010-02-22 Thread Tal Galili
Hello David,
I wanted to thank you for pointing to this code for performing posthoc
friedman test. I just used this example to create a function to perform this
test (and also added some illustrative flexible plots to the mix), here:
http://www.r-statistics.com/2010/02/post-hoc-analysis-for-friedmans-test-r-code/

Best,
Tal




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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:35 AM, David Winsemius dwinsem...@comcast.netwrote:


 On Sep 20, 2009, at 9:05 PM, j...@terraspark.com wrote:

  Hi there all,

 This is my first post to the list and I'll first say a few things:
 - R is great!
 - The archives of this list have helped me solve all of my
 problems/questions so far
 - I only know enough statistics to be dangerous

 I'm looking for a way to do post-hoc tests for the Friedman test. I have a
 dataset from a within-subjects design with 5 conditions where some of the
 dependent variables are ordinal, resulting from (summed) likert-scaled
 questionnaire data.

 From what I've read, I could use a wilcox.test on pairs of conditions and
 adjust the p level, but is there something in R that does a better
 job/automates this.

 I've seen references to the npmc package but that doesn't seem to do what
 I'm looking for, because it only accepts a data frame with two columns -
 i.e. there's no way to specify grouping/subject identifiers.

 Thanks,


 There is a worked example in the coin package for using a permutation test
 to examine differences after a Friedman test. The authors, Hothorn , Hornik
 , van de Wiel, and Zeileis, call this method the
 Wilcoxon-Nemenyi-McDonald-Thompson test and cite: Hollander  Wolfe (1999),
 page 295


 http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/library/coin/html/SymmetryTests.html

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Re: [R] Post-Hoc tests for Friedman Test?

2009-09-24 Thread David Winsemius


On Sep 20, 2009, at 9:35 PM, David Winsemius wrote:



On Sep 20, 2009, at 9:05 PM, j...@terraspark.com wrote:


Hi there all,

This is my first post to the list and I'll first say a few things:
- R is great!
- The archives of this list have helped me solve all of my problems/ 
questions so far

- I only know enough statistics to be dangerous

I'm looking for a way to do post-hoc tests for the Friedman test. I  
have a dataset from a within-subjects design with 5 conditions  
where some of the dependent variables are ordinal, resulting from  
(summed) likert-scaled questionnaire data.


From what I've read, I could use a wilcox.test on pairs of  
conditions and adjust the p level, but is there something in R that  
does a better job/automates this.


I've seen references to the npmc package but that doesn't seem to  
do what I'm looking for, because it only accepts a data frame with  
two columns - i.e. there's no way to specify grouping/subject  
identifiers.


Thanks,


There is a worked example in the coin package for using a  
permutation test to examine differences after a Friedman test. The  
authors, Hothorn , Hornik , van de Wiel, and Zeileis, call this  
method the Wilcoxon-Nemenyi-McDonald-Thompson test and cite:  
Hollander  Wolfe (1999), page 295


http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/library/coin/html/SymmetryTests.html



A further option just presented itself during a search for an  
unrelated question:


The MTP function in the multtest package has a robust=TRUE set of  
methods with these equivalencies offered:


t.onesamp or t.pair:
Wilcoxon signed rank, wilcox.test with y=NULL or paired=TRUE,
t.twosamp.equalvar:
Wilcoxon rank sum or Mann-Whitney, wilcox.test,
f:  Kruskal-Wallis rank sum, kruskal.test,
f.block:Friedman rank sum, friedman.test,
f.twoway:   Friedman rank sum, friedman.test,

http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/library/multtest/html/MTP.html

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[R] Post-Hoc tests for Friedman Test?

2009-09-20 Thread jon

Hi there all,

This is my first post to the list and I'll first say a few things:
- R is great!
- The archives of this list have helped me solve all of my  
problems/questions so far

- I only know enough statistics to be dangerous

I'm looking for a way to do post-hoc tests for the Friedman test. I  
have a dataset from a within-subjects design with 5 conditions where  
some of the dependent variables are ordinal, resulting from (summed)  
likert-scaled questionnaire data.


From what I've read, I could use a wilcox.test on pairs of conditions  
and adjust the p level, but is there something in R that does a better  
job/automates this.


I've seen references to the npmc package but that doesn't seem to do  
what I'm looking for, because it only accepts a data frame with two  
columns - i.e. there's no way to specify grouping/subject identifiers.


Thanks,
Jon Marbach

PhD Student, Computer Science Department
University of Colorado

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Re: [R] Post-Hoc tests for Friedman Test?

2009-09-20 Thread David Winsemius


On Sep 20, 2009, at 9:05 PM, j...@terraspark.com wrote:


Hi there all,

This is my first post to the list and I'll first say a few things:
- R is great!
- The archives of this list have helped me solve all of my problems/ 
questions so far

- I only know enough statistics to be dangerous

I'm looking for a way to do post-hoc tests for the Friedman test. I  
have a dataset from a within-subjects design with 5 conditions where  
some of the dependent variables are ordinal, resulting from (summed)  
likert-scaled questionnaire data.


From what I've read, I could use a wilcox.test on pairs of  
conditions and adjust the p level, but is there something in R that  
does a better job/automates this.


I've seen references to the npmc package but that doesn't seem to do  
what I'm looking for, because it only accepts a data frame with two  
columns - i.e. there's no way to specify grouping/subject identifiers.


Thanks,


There is a worked example in the coin package for using a permutation  
test to examine differences after a Friedman test. The authors,  
Hothorn , Hornik , van de Wiel, and Zeileis, call this method the  
Wilcoxon-Nemenyi-McDonald-Thompson test and cite: Hollander  Wolfe  
(1999), page 295


http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/library/coin/html/SymmetryTests.html

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Heritage Laboratories
West Hartford, CT

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