Re: [R] cycling from x11 window in RCommander to graphics device window: Mac Os 10.6.8
Dear Simon, On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:32:45 -0400 Simon Kiss wrote: > Dear John, > The Command Tab does not work for me, but I have been able to get expose to > work. I.e. it does bring up all windows, including the x11 terminal. It will > take a little getting used to, but it is functional. I didn't understand that you're running R from an X11 terminal (if I now understand correctly and that's the case). If so, that's not necessary. You should be able to run the Rcmdr from R.app or R64.app, and X11, without a terminal window, will start automatically. Best, John > I apologize for cluttering the list with minutiae > Thank you! > Yours > S. > On 2011-07-28, at 5:21 PM, John Fox wrote: > > > Dear Simon, > > > > I'm sitting in front of a MacBook Pro and Command-tab works perfectly fine > > for me: Selecting X11 brings the R Commander Window to the front, and > > selecting R brings the Quartz graphics window to the front. I must admit > > that my habit in classroom demonstrations on a Mac is to use Expose to > > select Windows, but, unless I misunderstand your problem, Command-tab also > > works. > > > > I'm using R 2.13.1 under Mac OS X 10.6.7 with XQuartz 2.3.6 and > > tcltk-8.5.5-x11. > > > > I hope this helps, > > John > > > > > > John Fox > > Sen. William McMaster Prof. of Social Statistics > > Department of Sociology > > McMaster University > > Hamilton, Ontario, Canada > > http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/ > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:40:11 -0400 > > Simon Kiss wrote: > >> Dear Colleagues, > >> I have recently installed R Commander on my Mac OS 10.6.8. I'd like to use > >> it for an undergraduate class this year. > >> Everything appears to be working fine, except for one thing. I cannot use > >> Command-tab to cycle from the X11 window in which RCommander is running to > >> any other window open in my workspace. This is particularly important > >> because I cannot cycle to the graphics device window that is opened when I > >> call a new plot. If I force quit the X11 window and Rcommander, R remains > >> running and I can see the graphics device window and the plot looks fine. > >> But as you can imagine, this is quite laborious, having to restart. > >> I've looked through the help documentation and tried reinstalling tcltk > >> prior to opening up Rcommander, but that does not address the problem. > >> Any thoughts? > >> Yours, Simon Kiss > >> * > >> Simon J. Kiss, PhD > >> Assistant Professor, Wilfrid Laurier University > >> 73 George Street > >> Brantford, Ontario, Canada > >> N3T 2C9 > >> Cell: +1 905 746 7606 > >> > >> __ > >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list > >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > >> PLEASE do read the posting guide > >> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > > > * > Simon J. Kiss, PhD > Assistant Professor, Wilfrid Laurier University > 73 George Street > Brantford, Ontario, Canada > N3T 2C9 > Cell: +1 905 746 7606 > > __ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] cycling from x11 window in RCommander to graphics device window: Mac Os 10.6.8
Dear John, The Command Tab does not work for me, but I have been able to get expose to work. I.e. it does bring up all windows, including the x11 terminal. It will take a little getting used to, but it is functional. I apologize for cluttering the list with minutiae Thank you! Yours S. On 2011-07-28, at 5:21 PM, John Fox wrote: > Dear Simon, > > I'm sitting in front of a MacBook Pro and Command-tab works perfectly fine > for me: Selecting X11 brings the R Commander Window to the front, and > selecting R brings the Quartz graphics window to the front. I must admit that > my habit in classroom demonstrations on a Mac is to use Expose to select > Windows, but, unless I misunderstand your problem, Command-tab also works. > > I'm using R 2.13.1 under Mac OS X 10.6.7 with XQuartz 2.3.6 and > tcltk-8.5.5-x11. > > I hope this helps, > John > > > John Fox > Sen. William McMaster Prof. of Social Statistics > Department of Sociology > McMaster University > Hamilton, Ontario, Canada > http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/ > On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:40:11 -0400 > Simon Kiss wrote: >> Dear Colleagues, >> I have recently installed R Commander on my Mac OS 10.6.8. I'd like to use >> it for an undergraduate class this year. >> Everything appears to be working fine, except for one thing. I cannot use >> Command-tab to cycle from the X11 window in which RCommander is running to >> any other window open in my workspace. This is particularly important >> because I cannot cycle to the graphics device window that is opened when I >> call a new plot. If I force quit the X11 window and Rcommander, R remains >> running and I can see the graphics device window and the plot looks fine. >> But as you can imagine, this is quite laborious, having to restart. >> I've looked through the help documentation and tried reinstalling tcltk >> prior to opening up Rcommander, but that does not address the problem. >> Any thoughts? >> Yours, Simon Kiss >> * >> Simon J. Kiss, PhD >> Assistant Professor, Wilfrid Laurier University >> 73 George Street >> Brantford, Ontario, Canada >> N3T 2C9 >> Cell: +1 905 746 7606 >> >> __ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > * Simon J. Kiss, PhD Assistant Professor, Wilfrid Laurier University 73 George Street Brantford, Ontario, Canada N3T 2C9 Cell: +1 905 746 7606 __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] cycling from x11 window in RCommander to graphics device window: Mac Os 10.6.8
Dear Simon, I'm sitting in front of a MacBook Pro and Command-tab works perfectly fine for me: Selecting X11 brings the R Commander Window to the front, and selecting R brings the Quartz graphics window to the front. I must admit that my habit in classroom demonstrations on a Mac is to use Expose to select Windows, but, unless I misunderstand your problem, Command-tab also works. I'm using R 2.13.1 under Mac OS X 10.6.7 with XQuartz 2.3.6 and tcltk-8.5.5-x11. I hope this helps, John John Fox Sen. William McMaster Prof. of Social Statistics Department of Sociology McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario, Canada http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/ On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:40:11 -0400 Simon Kiss wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > I have recently installed R Commander on my Mac OS 10.6.8. I'd like to use it > for an undergraduate class this year. > Everything appears to be working fine, except for one thing. I cannot use > Command-tab to cycle from the X11 window in which RCommander is running to > any other window open in my workspace. This is particularly important > because I cannot cycle to the graphics device window that is opened when I > call a new plot. If I force quit the X11 window and Rcommander, R remains > running and I can see the graphics device window and the plot looks fine. > But as you can imagine, this is quite laborious, having to restart. > I've looked through the help documentation and tried reinstalling tcltk prior > to opening up Rcommander, but that does not address the problem. > Any thoughts? > Yours, Simon Kiss > * > Simon J. Kiss, PhD > Assistant Professor, Wilfrid Laurier University > 73 George Street > Brantford, Ontario, Canada > N3T 2C9 > Cell: +1 905 746 7606 > > __ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] cycling from x11 window in RCommander to graphics device window: Mac Os 10.6.8
On Jul 28, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Ista Zahn wrote: Hi Simon On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Simon Kiss wrote: Dear Colleagues, I have recently installed R Commander on my Mac OS 10.6.8. I'd like to use it for an undergraduate class this year. Everything appears to be working fine, except for one thing. I cannot use Command-tab to cycle from the X11 window in which RCommander is running to any other window open in my workspace. This is particularly important because I cannot cycle to the graphics device window that is opened when I call a new plot. If I force quit the X11 window and Rcommander, R remains running and I can see the graphics device window and the plot looks fine. In the Mac GUI, cmd-1 brings up the console window, cmd-3 brings up the last auartz window window. Don't know about RCmdr. X11 is its own application, so you should be able to cmd-tab to it from an R console window. I NEVER close X11() while running R after experiencing crashes upon doing so. And this is probably more appropriate for the MacSIG list. I would suggest following up there. -- David. My Mac days are long behind me, but surely Command-tab is not the only way to switch windows! Can't you use the dock, or expose or ...? A couple of other thoughts. First, check to see if this is specific to Rcommander, or if you have the same problem in other X11 applications. Second, you might have better luck on the R-sig-mac mailing list. Best, Ista But as you can imagine, this is quite laborious, having to restart. I've looked through the help documentation and tried reinstalling tcltk prior to opening up Rcommander, but that does not address the problem. Any thoughts? Yours, Simon Kiss * Simon J. Kiss, PhD Assistant Professor, Wilfrid Laurier University 73 George Street Brantford, Ontario, Canada N3T 2C9 Cell: +1 905 746 7606 __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. -- Ista Zahn Graduate student University of Rochester Department of Clinical and Social Psychology http://yourpsyche.org __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. David Winsemius, MD West Hartford, CT __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] cycling from x11 window in RCommander to graphics device window: Mac Os 10.6.8
Hi Simon On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Simon Kiss wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > I have recently installed R Commander on my Mac OS 10.6.8. I'd like to use it > for an undergraduate class this year. > Everything appears to be working fine, except for one thing. I cannot use > Command-tab to cycle from the X11 window in which RCommander is running to > any other window open in my workspace. This is particularly important > because I cannot cycle to the graphics device window that is opened when I > call a new plot. If I force quit the X11 window and Rcommander, R remains > running and I can see the graphics device window and the plot looks fine. My Mac days are long behind me, but surely Command-tab is not the only way to switch windows! Can't you use the dock, or expose or ...? A couple of other thoughts. First, check to see if this is specific to Rcommander, or if you have the same problem in other X11 applications. Second, you might have better luck on the R-sig-mac mailing list. Best, Ista > But as you can imagine, this is quite laborious, having to restart. > I've looked through the help documentation and tried reinstalling tcltk prior > to opening up Rcommander, but that does not address the problem. > Any thoughts? > Yours, Simon Kiss > * > Simon J. Kiss, PhD > Assistant Professor, Wilfrid Laurier University > 73 George Street > Brantford, Ontario, Canada > N3T 2C9 > Cell: +1 905 746 7606 > > __ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > -- Ista Zahn Graduate student University of Rochester Department of Clinical and Social Psychology http://yourpsyche.org __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
[R] cycling from x11 window in RCommander to graphics device window: Mac Os 10.6.8
Dear Colleagues, I have recently installed R Commander on my Mac OS 10.6.8. I'd like to use it for an undergraduate class this year. Everything appears to be working fine, except for one thing. I cannot use Command-tab to cycle from the X11 window in which RCommander is running to any other window open in my workspace. This is particularly important because I cannot cycle to the graphics device window that is opened when I call a new plot. If I force quit the X11 window and Rcommander, R remains running and I can see the graphics device window and the plot looks fine. But as you can imagine, this is quite laborious, having to restart. I've looked through the help documentation and tried reinstalling tcltk prior to opening up Rcommander, but that does not address the problem. Any thoughts? Yours, Simon Kiss * Simon J. Kiss, PhD Assistant Professor, Wilfrid Laurier University 73 George Street Brantford, Ontario, Canada N3T 2C9 Cell: +1 905 746 7606 __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
