Re: [R] fUtilities removed -- use fBasics

2012-01-14 Thread Martin Maechler
 David Winsemius dwinsem...@comcast.net
 on Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:52:57 -0500 writes:

 On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Dominic Comtois wrote:

 When setting up my new machine, I had the surprise to see
 that Package 'fUtilities' was removed from the CRAN
 repository.
 

 https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/rmetrics-core/2012-January/000554.html
 https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/rmetrics-core/2011-November/000549.html

indeed. thank you David (and Google, I presume ..)

 
 This is problematic for my work. I use many of its
 functions, and it will complicate things a lot if other
 programmers want to use my previous code in the
 future. Plus, nowhere can I find the justification for
 its removal.

For a longer time, the Rmetrics management had planned to
deprecate  fUtilities (and fSeries and fCalendar),
basically refactoring the functionality ``approximately'' along
the lines of

 old package replacement pkgs
 --- 
 fUtilities  fBasics
 fSeries timeSeries
 fCalendar   timeDate

but clearly not a 1:1 replacement, but a refactoring as said above.
fBasics, indeed 'Depends' on both timeSeries and timeDate,
so I think it is safe to say that you should replace

   fUtilities by fBasics
everywhere ... and things should work...

Yes, the communication about these plans where not put out the
way they should have; and indeed the deprecation would not have
necessarily meant that the package be dropped without proper notice.
One excuse has been the lack of resources and health on the side
of Rmetrics.

Disclaimer: I am one of rmetrics-c...@r-project.org, as having
been an active co-maintainer of some parts of the Rmetrics collection,
but I have not been part of the management nor the foundation.

Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich

 You need to send your questions to the maintainers. They
 apparently did not respond to the requests to fix the
 errors.

 
 Thanks for any info on this

 You should perhaps subscribe to the list that is
 established for discussion on this and related packages.

 -- 

 David Winsemius, MD West Hartford, CT

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Re: [R] fUtilities removed -- use fBasics

2012-01-14 Thread Dominic Comtois
Thank you for your prompt and useful replies. I will be using fBasics from
now on.

Regards,

Dominic Comtois, Montréal

-Message d'origine-
De : Martin Maechler [mailto:maech...@stat.math.ethz.ch] 
Envoyé : 14 janvier 2012 06:39
À : David Winsemius
Cc : Dominic Comtois; r-help@r-project.org; rmetrics-c...@r-project.org
Objet : Re: [R] fUtilities removed -- use fBasics

 David Winsemius dwinsem...@comcast.net
 on Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:52:57 -0500 writes:

 On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Dominic Comtois wrote:

 When setting up my new machine, I had the surprise to see
 that Package 'fUtilities' was removed from the CRAN
 repository.
 

 https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/rmetrics-core/2012-January/000554.html
 https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/rmetrics-core/2011-November/000549.html

indeed. thank you David (and Google, I presume ..)

 
 This is problematic for my work. I use many of its
 functions, and it will complicate things a lot if other
 programmers want to use my previous code in the
 future. Plus, nowhere can I find the justification for
 its removal.

For a longer time, the Rmetrics management had planned to deprecate
fUtilities (and fSeries and fCalendar), basically refactoring the
functionality ``approximately'' along the lines of

 old package replacement pkgs
 --- 
 fUtilities  fBasics
 fSeries timeSeries
 fCalendar   timeDate

but clearly not a 1:1 replacement, but a refactoring as said above.
fBasics, indeed 'Depends' on both timeSeries and timeDate, so I think it is
safe to say that you should replace

   fUtilities by fBasics
everywhere ... and things should work...

Yes, the communication about these plans where not put out the way they
should have; and indeed the deprecation would not have necessarily meant
that the package be dropped without proper notice.
One excuse has been the lack of resources and health on the side of
Rmetrics.

Disclaimer: I am one of rmetrics-c...@r-project.org, as having been an
active co-maintainer of some parts of the Rmetrics collection, but I have
not been part of the management nor the foundation.

Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich

 You need to send your questions to the maintainers. They
 apparently did not respond to the requests to fix the
 errors.

 
 Thanks for any info on this

 You should perhaps subscribe to the list that is
 established for discussion on this and related packages.

 -- 

 David Winsemius, MD West Hartford, CT

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[R] fUtilities removed

2012-01-13 Thread Dominic Comtois
When setting up my new machine, I had the surprise to see that Package
'fUtilities' was removed from the CRAN repository.

 

This is problematic for my work. I use many of its functions, and it will
complicate things a lot if other programmers want to use my previous code in
the future. Plus, nowhere can I find the justification for its removal.

 

Thanks for any info on this


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Re: [R] fUtilities removed

2012-01-13 Thread David Winsemius


On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Dominic Comtois wrote:

When setting up my new machine, I had the surprise to see that  
Package

'fUtilities' was removed from the CRAN repository.



https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/rmetrics-core/2012-January/000554.html
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/rmetrics-core/2011-November/000549.html




This is problematic for my work. I use many of its functions, and it  
will
complicate things a lot if other programmers want to use my previous  
code in
the future. Plus, nowhere can I find the justification for its  
removal.


You need to send your questions to the maintainers. They apparently  
did not respond to the requests to fix the errors.




Thanks for any info on this


You should perhaps subscribe to the list that is established for  
discussion on this and related packages.


--

David Winsemius, MD
West Hartford, CT

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