Re: [R] how to load functions from file

2012-04-04 Thread Rolf Turner

On 04/04/12 15:54, John Kohr wrote:

Hello,

I have several functions in an .R file. I try to load them with load() command 
but it seems is not working..

if .R is in /home/user/myfunctions.R

how can i load it? is there any other way?


Don't assume that you know what load means on the basis of
believing that you have an intuitive understanding of this term.
You haven't.

Read the help for load.  I.e. RTFM.  You will see that the function
load() could scarcely be *less* appropriate for what you are trying
to do.

As someone else had told, the function you need to use is source().

But how would you have found that out, without someone telling you?
Ah!  Now you're asking questions!

The simple answer is, damned if I know.  I just thrashed around for
a while with help.search() and RSiteSearch(), and looked through
 ``An Introduction to R'' on the r-project home page.  Nada.  If you
*know* the function is called source then you can find it.  If you
don't know  catch 22.

cheers,

Rolf Turner

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Re: [R] how to load functions from file

2012-04-04 Thread Bert Gunter
Rolf:

Google on load functions into R.
A post referencing source() (from Henrik Bengtsson is the first hit.

-- Bert

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Rolf Turner rolf.tur...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 On 04/04/12 15:54, John Kohr wrote:

 Hello,

 I have several functions in an .R file. I try to load them with load()
 command but it seems is not working..

 if .R is in /home/user/myfunctions.R

 how can i load it? is there any other way?


 Don't assume that you know what load means on the basis of
 believing that you have an intuitive understanding of this term.
 You haven't.

 Read the help for load.  I.e. RTFM.  You will see that the function
 load() could scarcely be *less* appropriate for what you are trying
 to do.

 As someone else had told, the function you need to use is source().

 But how would you have found that out, without someone telling you?
 Ah!  Now you're asking questions!

 The simple answer is, damned if I know.  I just thrashed around for
 a while with help.search() and RSiteSearch(), and looked through
  ``An Introduction to R'' on the r-project home page.  Nada.  If you
 *know* the function is called source then you can find it.  If you
 don't know  catch 22.

    cheers,

        Rolf Turner

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Re: [R] how to load functions from file

2012-04-04 Thread Rolf Turner

On 04/04/12 22:32, Bert Gunter wrote:

Rolf:

Google on load functions into R.
A post referencing source() (from Henrik Bengtsson is the first hit.



Tried that just now.  The only hits I got were to *your* post; no hits
on any post from Henrik Bengtsson.

These things are never as easy and straightforward as the cognoscenti
would have you believe.

cheers,

Rolf

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Re: [R] how to load functions from file

2012-04-04 Thread Sarah Goslee
I just tried it, because I'm curious that way.

If I search for
load functions into R
I get only this thread.

If I search for
load functions into R
(no quotes), I get the referenced discussion from Henrik Bengtsson:
ttps://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2008-September/173606.html

As in so many areas of dealing with R, details matter.

Sarah

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Rolf Turner rolf.tur...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 On 04/04/12 22:32, Bert Gunter wrote:

 Rolf:

 Google on load functions into R.
 A post referencing source() (from Henrik Bengtsson is the first hit.


 Tried that just now.  The only hits I got were to *your* post; no hits
 on any post from Henrik Bengtsson.

 These things are never as easy and straightforward as the cognoscenti
 would have you believe.

    cheers,

        Rolf



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http://www.functionaldiversity.org

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Re: [R] how to load functions from file

2012-04-04 Thread Rolf Turner

On 05/04/12 10:10, Sarah Goslee wrote:

I just tried it, because I'm curious that way.

If I search for
load functions into R
I get only this thread.

If I search for
load functions into R
(no quotes), I get the referenced discussion from Henrik Bengtsson:
ttps://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2008-September/173606.html

As in so many areas of dealing with R, details matter.


Indeed.  But to me, this is a highly counter-intuitive detail.
Put yourself in the place of a newbie trying to find how to
load functions into R.

cheers,

Rolf

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Re: [R] how to load functions from file

2012-04-04 Thread David Winsemius


On Apr 4, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Sarah Goslee wrote:


I just tried it, because I'm curious that way.

If I search for
load functions into R
I get only this thread.

If I search for
load functions into R
(no quotes), I get the referenced discussion from Henrik Bengtsson:
ttps://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2008-September/173606.html

As in so many areas of dealing with R, details matter.


I sometime check how many hops using links in the help system that it  
takes to get from a not-quite-right-term to the right help page.  
Usually it's a pretty small number. In this case the links from the  
load page are save - dump (where source is discussed and not  
just linked at the bottom) - source. So arguably the number of hops  
needed are only two but at most three. (And obviously I'm not counting  
the dput link or the other ones higher up the page. So I do  
understand that I may be asking people to read 9 or 10 pages before  
they post a question. That seems an acceptable effort.)


The help system is not advertised as the preferred method of learning  
R, but it was the method I grew up with.


--
David.



Sarah

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Rolf Turner rolf.tur...@xtra.co.nz  
wrote:

On 04/04/12 22:32, Bert Gunter wrote:


Rolf:

Google on load functions into R.
A post referencing source() (from Henrik Bengtsson is the first hit.



Tried that just now.  The only hits I got were to *your* post; no  
hits

on any post from Henrik Bengtsson.

These things are never as easy and straightforward as the cognoscenti
would have you believe.

   cheers,

   Rolf




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http://www.functionaldiversity.org

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[R] how to load functions from file

2012-04-03 Thread John Kohr

Hello,

I have several functions in an .R file. I try to load them with load() command 
but it seems is not working..

if .R is in /home/user/myfunctions.R

how can i load it? is there any other way?

Thanks
  
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Re: [R] how to load functions from file

2012-04-03 Thread Jorge I Velez
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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:54 PM, John Kohr  wrote:


 Hello,

 I have several functions in an .R file. I try to load them with load()
 command but it seems is not working..

 if .R is in /home/user/myfunctions.R

 how can i load it? is there any other way?

 Thanks

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