Re: [R] wBoot Package

2018-11-26 Thread Janh Anni
Hello David, Peter,

Thank you so much for taking the trouble to look into this.  The user guide
for the *boot.two.per* function contains this statement:

*Obtains an independent-samples confidence interval and (optionally)
performs an independent samples*
*hypothesis test for the difference between two population means, medians,
proportions,*
*or some user-defined function, using the percentile bootstrap method*.

That was why I assumed it could handle the bootstrapped two-sample test for
proportions as well.  I actually tried to contact the author before
bringing the issue to R-Help, but found that unfortunately he passed away
in 2016.  Assuming there's no resolution to this problem, would you know of
any other package or function that can bootstrap one- and two-sample
proportion tests?

Thanks again!

Janh


On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 7:06 PM David Winsemius 
wrote:

> Look at the function's help page:
>
> No help there. The "parameter" argument is not defined in any
> substantive manner, and no examples other than `parameter=mean` appear
> in the help page.
>
> (Now) Look at the code. The parameter argument is expected to be a
> function. There is no function named `proportion` in base R that I know
> of and:
>
>  > wBoot::proportion
> Error: 'proportion' is not an exported object from 'namespace:wBoot'
>  > wBoot:::proportion
> Error in get(name, envir = asNamespace(pkg), inherits = FALSE) :
>object 'proportion' not found
>
>
> The code in the function you are asking about does begin with:
>
> {
>
>   proportion <- mean
>
> However, that named entity, `proportion`,  is never referenced in  code
> that follows, so it appears that the package author started down one
> path and then abandoned that line of code and did something else. I
> suspect that the code was written so that `mean` was inteended to
> deliver a test of equal proportions using the normal approximation to a
> binomial test. There is a waring in the help page that would apply to
> situations where the proportion is far from 0.5.  You are advised that
> not all packages are written with scrupulous quality control and peer
> review.
>
> You should have read the posting guide. It would have told you that you
> should have addressed your concerns to the package author first, and
> also posted in plain text.
>
> --
>
> David
>
> On 11/25/18 12:59 PM, Janh Anni wrote:
> > Hello R Experts!
> >
> > I wonder if anyone is familiar with the wBoot package written by Neil
> > Weiss. I was trying to use the *boot.two.per* function in that package to
> > compute a bootstrapped two-sample hypothesis test for proportion.  Here"s
> > the *boot.two.per* script:
> >
> > boot.two.per(x, y, parameter, stacked = TRUE, variable = NULL,
> >
> > null.hyp = NULL, alternative = c("two.sided", "less", "greater"),
> >
> > conf.level = 0.95, type = NULL, R = )
> >
> > The problem is that if I specify *mean* or *median *as the parameter for
> > the test, the script runs fine, but if I specify *proportion*, I get an
> > error message that *proportion* not found
> >
> > Is there another way to specify proportion as the test parameter?
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > Janh
> >
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Re: [R] wBoot Package

2018-11-26 Thread peter dalgaard
This could possibly be a botched attempt at telling "the system" that one could 
use proportion() as synonymous with mean(). That would obviously fail due to 
scoping rules, but maybe an earlier version used <<- (?). Anyways, you could 
take the hint: proportions are just means of 0-1 variables... 

> On 26 Nov 2018, at 01:06 , David Winsemius  wrote:
> 
> The code in the function you are asking about does begin with:
> 
>{
> 
>  proportion <- mean
> 
> However, that named entity, `proportion`,  is never referenced in  code that 
> follows, so it appears that the package author started down one path and then 
> abandoned that line of code and did something else. 

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Re: [R] wBoot Package

2018-11-25 Thread David Winsemius

Look at the function's help page:

No help there. The "parameter" argument is not defined in any 
substantive manner, and no examples other than `parameter=mean` appear 
in the help page.


(Now) Look at the code. The parameter argument is expected to be a 
function. There is no function named `proportion` in base R that I know 
of and:


> wBoot::proportion
Error: 'proportion' is not an exported object from 'namespace:wBoot'
> wBoot:::proportion
Error in get(name, envir = asNamespace(pkg), inherits = FALSE) :
  object 'proportion' not found


The code in the function you are asking about does begin with:

   {

 proportion <- mean

However, that named entity, `proportion`,  is never referenced in  code 
that follows, so it appears that the package author started down one 
path and then abandoned that line of code and did something else. I 
suspect that the code was written so that `mean` was inteended to 
deliver a test of equal proportions using the normal approximation to a 
binomial test. There is a waring in the help page that would apply to 
situations where the proportion is far from 0.5.  You are advised that 
not all packages are written with scrupulous quality control and peer 
review.


You should have read the posting guide. It would have told you that you 
should have addressed your concerns to the package author first, and 
also posted in plain text.


--

David

On 11/25/18 12:59 PM, Janh Anni wrote:

Hello R Experts!

I wonder if anyone is familiar with the wBoot package written by Neil
Weiss. I was trying to use the *boot.two.per* function in that package to
compute a bootstrapped two-sample hypothesis test for proportion.  Here"s
the *boot.two.per* script:

boot.two.per(x, y, parameter, stacked = TRUE, variable = NULL,

null.hyp = NULL, alternative = c("two.sided", "less", "greater"),

conf.level = 0.95, type = NULL, R = )

The problem is that if I specify *mean* or *median *as the parameter for
the test, the script runs fine, but if I specify *proportion*, I get an
error message that *proportion* not found

Is there another way to specify proportion as the test parameter?

Thanks a lot!

Janh

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[R] wBoot Package

2018-11-25 Thread Janh Anni
Hello R Experts!

I wonder if anyone is familiar with the wBoot package written by Neil
Weiss. I was trying to use the *boot.two.per* function in that package to
compute a bootstrapped two-sample hypothesis test for proportion.  Here"s
the *boot.two.per* script:

boot.two.per(x, y, parameter, stacked = TRUE, variable = NULL,

null.hyp = NULL, alternative = c("two.sided", "less", "greater"),

conf.level = 0.95, type = NULL, R = )

The problem is that if I specify *mean* or *median *as the parameter for
the test, the script runs fine, but if I specify *proportion*, I get an
error message that *proportion* not found

Is there another way to specify proportion as the test parameter?

Thanks a lot!

Janh

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