Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-14 Thread Serguei Sokol

On 14/06/2019 14:43, Frank Schwidom wrote:

Hi John,

First, the unix and linux filesystem allows the use of any nonzero character in 
its filesystem filenames
Well, even it's not the central point of the discussion let make this 
assertion more correct. It depends on file system. E.g. JFS 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFS_%28file_system%29) abides to this 
rule while very popular ext4 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4) does 
not. In addition to NUL character, the latter forbids '/' as well.


Best,
Serguei.

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Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-13 Thread Paul McQuesten
Gabriel,

I apologize. I did not mean to flame, merely to point out a typical usage
of tilde that might have escaped the discussion.
As you say, Kurt's fix makes this all moot.
I also apologize for wasting everyone's time with my spam.

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 2:13 AM Gabriel Becker 
wrote:

> At the risk of looking silly, note that all of this is now largely moot
> anyway (or will be with the next release of R), thanks to Kurt Hornik's
> fixing of the bug in question (which he announced on this thread prior to
> but I read after Paul's).
>
> ~G
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:51 PM Gabriel Becker 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 5:16 AM Paul McQuesten  wrote:
>>
>>> @ Gabriel:
>>>
>>> "Avoid tilde in file names":
>>> Not quite.
>>> A tilde *suffix* is commonly used by *nix editors for backup files
>>>
>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76189/what-does-the-tilde-mean-at-the-end-of-a-filename
>>
>>
>> I'm aware of that, but that isn't the case that is being discussed, as
>> the example given clearly had a tilde (and spaces) in the middle of the
>> file. Backup files witilde suffix does not trigger the bug being discussed.
>> It's *only* files paths where the tilde is surrounded on both by spaces
>> (or on the right by the end fo the string) that trigger it.
>>
>> > path.expand("a~b")
>>
>> [1] "a~b"
>>
>> > path.expand("a ~ b")
>>
>> [1] "a /Users/gabrielbecker b"
>>
>> > path.expand("myfile.txt~")
>>
>> [1] "myfile.txt~"
>>
>> > path.expand("myfile.txt ~")
>>
>> [1] "myfile.txt /Users/gabrielbecker"
>>
>>
>> All that said I'm really not interested in participating in a flame war
>> over this. I gave my 2 cents as respectfully as I could, so as of now
>> please consider my participation  and interest in this thread closed.
>>
>> Best,
>> ~G
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:43 AM Kurt Hornik 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > Duncan Murdoch writes:
>>> >
>>> > With c76695 in the trunk, we now only tilde expand file names starting
>>> > with a tilde also when using readline.
>>> >
>>> > Best
>>> > -k
>>> >
>>> > > On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:
>>> > >> Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and
>>> > Linux.
>>> > >> On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the
>>> line
>>> > and
>>> > >> is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line.  On
>>> Linux it
>>> > is
>>> > >> replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be
>>> > replaced
>>> > >> by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home
>>> > >> directory).
>>> >
>>> > > That's not quite true:  On Linux the bug is in the code that uses
>>> > > libreadline, which you don't have to use.  If you just specify
>>> > > "--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far
>>> as I
>>> > > can see.
>>> >
>>> > > I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty
>>> > > irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for
>>> > > this bug.
>>> >
>>> > > Duncan Murdoch
>>> >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file
>>> system on
>>> > >> your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the
>>> > names.
>>> > >> My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the
>>> > names,
>>> > >> but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Bill Dunlap
>>> > >> TIBCO Software
>>> > >> wdunlap tibco.com
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Hi Gabriel,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I
>>> am
>>> > not
>>> > >>> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will
>>> not
>>> > be
>>> > >>> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I
>>> > think
>>> > >>> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can
>>> > handle
>>> > >>> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Kind regards,
>>> > >>> Frank
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote:
>>> >  Hi Frank,
>>> >  I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought
>>> > >>> this up
>>> >  to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but
>>> > >>> especially
>>> >  on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important
>>> special
>>> >  meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally
>>> bad
>>> >  practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest
>>> > >>> amount
>>> >  of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your
>>> > >>> filenames
>>> >  will be better for it anyway.
>>> >  There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and
>>> while I
>>> >  haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that
>>> > >>> "everyone"
>>> >  else is already on the "no tildes 

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-13 Thread Gabriel Becker
At the risk of looking silly, note that all of this is now largely moot
anyway (or will be with the next release of R), thanks to Kurt Hornik's
fixing of the bug in question (which he announced on this thread prior to
but I read after Paul's).

~G

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:51 PM Gabriel Becker 
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 5:16 AM Paul McQuesten  wrote:
>
>> @ Gabriel:
>>
>> "Avoid tilde in file names":
>> Not quite.
>> A tilde *suffix* is commonly used by *nix editors for backup files
>>
>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76189/what-does-the-tilde-mean-at-the-end-of-a-filename
>
>
> I'm aware of that, but that isn't the case that is being discussed, as the
> example given clearly had a tilde (and spaces) in the middle of the file.
> Backup files witilde suffix does not trigger the bug being discussed. It's
> *only* files paths where the tilde is surrounded on both by spaces (or on
> the right by the end fo the string) that trigger it.
>
> > path.expand("a~b")
>
> [1] "a~b"
>
> > path.expand("a ~ b")
>
> [1] "a /Users/gabrielbecker b"
>
> > path.expand("myfile.txt~")
>
> [1] "myfile.txt~"
>
> > path.expand("myfile.txt ~")
>
> [1] "myfile.txt /Users/gabrielbecker"
>
>
> All that said I'm really not interested in participating in a flame war
> over this. I gave my 2 cents as respectfully as I could, so as of now
> please consider my participation  and interest in this thread closed.
>
> Best,
> ~G
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:43 AM Kurt Hornik  wrote:
>>
>> > > Duncan Murdoch writes:
>> >
>> > With c76695 in the trunk, we now only tilde expand file names starting
>> > with a tilde also when using readline.
>> >
>> > Best
>> > -k
>> >
>> > > On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:
>> > >> Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and
>> > Linux.
>> > >> On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line
>> > and
>> > >> is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line.  On Linux
>> it
>> > is
>> > >> replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be
>> > replaced
>> > >> by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home
>> > >> directory).
>> >
>> > > That's not quite true:  On Linux the bug is in the code that uses
>> > > libreadline, which you don't have to use.  If you just specify
>> > > "--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far as
>> I
>> > > can see.
>> >
>> > > I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty
>> > > irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for
>> > > this bug.
>> >
>> > > Duncan Murdoch
>> >
>> > >>
>> > >> Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file
>> system on
>> > >> your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the
>> > names.
>> > >> My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the
>> > names,
>> > >> but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach.
>> > >>
>> > >> Bill Dunlap
>> > >> TIBCO Software
>> > >> wdunlap tibco.com
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom 
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi Gabriel,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am
>> > not
>> > >>> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will
>> not
>> > be
>> > >>> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I
>> > think
>> > >>> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can
>> > handle
>> > >>> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Kind regards,
>> > >>> Frank
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote:
>> >  Hi Frank,
>> >  I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought
>> > >>> this up
>> >  to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but
>> > >>> especially
>> >  on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important
>> special
>> >  meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally
>> bad
>> >  practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest
>> > >>> amount
>> >  of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your
>> > >>> filenames
>> >  will be better for it anyway.
>> >  There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and
>> while I
>> >  haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that
>> > >>> "everyone"
>> >  else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this
>> >  behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them
>> >  problems.
>> >  Best,
>> >  ~G
>> >  On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]
>> schwi...@gmx.net>
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> >  Hi,
>> > 
>> >  yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding
>> >  problem.
>> > 
>> >  Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and 

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-13 Thread Gabriel Becker
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 5:16 AM Paul McQuesten  wrote:

> @ Gabriel:
>
> "Avoid tilde in file names":
> Not quite.
> A tilde *suffix* is commonly used by *nix editors for backup files
>
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76189/what-does-the-tilde-mean-at-the-end-of-a-filename


I'm aware of that, but that isn't the case that is being discussed, as the
example given clearly had a tilde (and spaces) in the middle of the file.
Backup files witilde suffix does not trigger the bug being discussed. It's
*only* files paths where the tilde is surrounded on both by spaces (or on
the right by the end fo the string) that trigger it.

> path.expand("a~b")

[1] "a~b"

> path.expand("a ~ b")

[1] "a /Users/gabrielbecker b"

> path.expand("myfile.txt~")

[1] "myfile.txt~"

> path.expand("myfile.txt ~")

[1] "myfile.txt /Users/gabrielbecker"


All that said I'm really not interested in participating in a flame war
over this. I gave my 2 cents as respectfully as I could, so as of now
please consider my participation  and interest in this thread closed.

Best,
~G



>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:43 AM Kurt Hornik  wrote:
>
> > > Duncan Murdoch writes:
> >
> > With c76695 in the trunk, we now only tilde expand file names starting
> > with a tilde also when using readline.
> >
> > Best
> > -k
> >
> > > On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:
> > >> Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and
> > Linux.
> > >> On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line
> > and
> > >> is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line.  On Linux
> it
> > is
> > >> replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be
> > replaced
> > >> by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home
> > >> directory).
> >
> > > That's not quite true:  On Linux the bug is in the code that uses
> > > libreadline, which you don't have to use.  If you just specify
> > > "--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far as I
> > > can see.
> >
> > > I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty
> > > irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for
> > > this bug.
> >
> > > Duncan Murdoch
> >
> > >>
> > >> Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file system
> on
> > >> your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the
> > names.
> > >> My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the
> > names,
> > >> but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach.
> > >>
> > >> Bill Dunlap
> > >> TIBCO Software
> > >> wdunlap tibco.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Gabriel,
> > >>>
> > >>> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am
> > not
> > >>> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will
> not
> > be
> > >>> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I
> > think
> > >>> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can
> > handle
> > >>> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists.
> > >>>
> > >>> Kind regards,
> > >>> Frank
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote:
> >  Hi Frank,
> >  I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought
> > >>> this up
> >  to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but
> > >>> especially
> >  on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important
> special
> >  meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally
> bad
> >  practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest
> > >>> amount
> >  of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your
> > >>> filenames
> >  will be better for it anyway.
> >  There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and
> while I
> >  haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that
> > >>> "everyone"
> >  else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this
> >  behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them
> >  problems.
> >  Best,
> >  ~G
> >  On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwi...@gmx.net
> >
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >  Hi,
> > 
> >  yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding
> >  problem.
> > 
> >  Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to
> > >>> keep the
> >  discussion running.
> > 
> >  Kind regards,
> >  Frank Schwidom
> > 
> >  On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote:
> >  > Just in case, have you seen the fs package?
> >  > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/
> >  >
> >  > Gabor
> >  >
> >  > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3]
> > >>> schwi...@gmx.net>
> >  wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > Hi,
> >  > >
> >  > > to get rid 

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-13 Thread Paul McQuesten
@ Gabriel:

"Avoid tilde in file names":
Not quite.
A tilde *suffix* is commonly used by *nix editors for backup files
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76189/what-does-the-tilde-mean-at-the-end-of-a-filename

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:43 AM Kurt Hornik  wrote:

> > Duncan Murdoch writes:
>
> With c76695 in the trunk, we now only tilde expand file names starting
> with a tilde also when using readline.
>
> Best
> -k
>
> > On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:
> >> Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and
> Linux.
> >> On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line
> and
> >> is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line.  On Linux it
> is
> >> replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be
> replaced
> >> by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home
> >> directory).
>
> > That's not quite true:  On Linux the bug is in the code that uses
> > libreadline, which you don't have to use.  If you just specify
> > "--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far as I
> > can see.
>
> > I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty
> > irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for
> > this bug.
>
> > Duncan Murdoch
>
> >>
> >> Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file system on
> >> your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the
> names.
> >> My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the
> names,
> >> but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach.
> >>
> >> Bill Dunlap
> >> TIBCO Software
> >> wdunlap tibco.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Gabriel,
> >>>
> >>> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am
> not
> >>> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will not
> be
> >>> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I
> think
> >>> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can
> handle
> >>> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote:
>  Hi Frank,
>  I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought
> >>> this up
>  to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but
> >>> especially
>  on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special
>  meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad
>  practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest
> >>> amount
>  of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your
> >>> filenames
>  will be better for it anyway.
>  There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I
>  haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that
> >>> "everyone"
>  else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this
>  behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them
>  problems.
>  Best,
>  ~G
>  On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwi...@gmx.net>
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hi,
> 
>  yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding
>  problem.
> 
>  Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to
> >>> keep the
>  discussion running.
> 
>  Kind regards,
>  Frank Schwidom
> 
>  On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote:
>  > Just in case, have you seen the fs package?
>  > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/
>  >
>  > Gabor
>  >
>  > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3]
> >>> schwi...@gmx.net>
>  wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Hi,
>  > >
>  > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a
> >>> little
>  project to cover my usecase:
>  > >
>  > > [4]https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs
>  > >
>  > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are
> >>> welcome.
>  > >
>  > > Thanks in advance
>  > > Frank Schwidom
>  > >
>  > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
>  > > >How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a
> >>> file
>  name NOT be
>  > > >considered a bug?
>  > > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov
>  <[1][5]krylov.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >  On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200
>  > > >  Frank Schwidom <[2][6]schwi...@gmx.net> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >  > +> path.expand("a ~ b")
>  > > >  > [1] "a /home/user b"
>  > > >
>  > > >  > How can I switch off any file crippling activity?
>  > > >
>  > > >  It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and
>  works
>  > > >  correctly.
>  > > >
>  > > >  

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-12 Thread Kurt Hornik
> Duncan Murdoch writes:

With c76695 in the trunk, we now only tilde expand file names starting
with a tilde also when using readline.

Best
-k

> On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:
>> Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and Linux.
>> On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line and
>> is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line.  On Linux it is
>> replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be replaced
>> by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home
>> directory).

> That's not quite true:  On Linux the bug is in the code that uses 
> libreadline, which you don't have to use.  If you just specify
> "--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far as I 
> can see.

> I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty 
> irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for 
> this bug.

> Duncan Murdoch

>> 
>> Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file system on
>> your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the names.
>> My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the names,
>> but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach.
>> 
>> Bill Dunlap
>> TIBCO Software
>> wdunlap tibco.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Gabriel,
>>> 
>>> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am not
>>> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will not be
>>> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I think
>>> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can handle
>>> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Frank
>>> 
>>> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote:
 Hi Frank,
 I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought
>>> this up
 to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but
>>> especially
 on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special
 meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad
 practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest
>>> amount
 of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your
>>> filenames
 will be better for it anyway.
 There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I
 haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that
>>> "everyone"
 else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this
 behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them
 problems.
 Best,
 ~G
 On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwi...@gmx.net>
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding
 problem.
 
 Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to
>>> keep the
 discussion running.
 
 Kind regards,
 Frank Schwidom
 
 On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote:
 > Just in case, have you seen the fs package?
 > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/
 >
 > Gabor
 >
 > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3]
>>> schwi...@gmx.net>
 wrote:
 > >
 > > Hi,
 > >
 > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a
>>> little
 project to cover my usecase:
 > >
 > > [4]https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs
 > >
 > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are
>>> welcome.
 > >
 > > Thanks in advance
 > > Frank Schwidom
 > >
 > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
 > > >How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a
>>> file
 name NOT be
 > > >considered a bug?
 > > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov
 <[1][5]krylov.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
 > > >
 > > >  On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200
 > > >  Frank Schwidom <[2][6]schwi...@gmx.net> wrote:
 > > >
 > > >  > +> path.expand("a ~ b")
 > > >  > [1] "a /home/user b"
 > > >
 > > >  > How can I switch off any file crippling activity?
 > > >
 > > >  It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and
 works
 > > >  correctly.
 > > >
 > > >  Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName
>>> [3],
 which
 > > >  calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses
>>> libreadline
 function
 > > >  tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to
>>> expand
 '~'
 > > >  anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on
>>> whole
 command
 > > >  lines, not file paths.
 > > >
 > > >  I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this
>>> can be
 > > >  considered a bug.
 > > >

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-11 Thread Travers Ching
Hi Gabriel,

It may be bad practice, but you don't always have control over the file
name.

E.g. if someone shares a file with a tilde in it -- yes it is simple to
rename but it is extra time, and you might not bother to rename a file
without foreknowledge of this bug in the first place.

Even worse, if someone points you to a read only location on a shared
server, you won't even be able to rename the file, and copying might be
prohibitive if it's a large file.

There are also tilde files created automatically by other programs, notably
microsoft office.

Travers




On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:49 AM Gabriel Becker 
wrote:

> Hi Frank,
>
> I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought this up
> to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but especially
> on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special
> meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad
> practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest amount of
> pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your filenames will
> be better for it anyway.
>
> There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I
> haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that "everyone"
> else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this
> behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them problems.
>
> Best,
> ~G
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding
> problem.
> >
> > Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to keep the
> > discussion running.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Frank Schwidom
> >
> > On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote:
> > > Just in case, have you seen the fs package?
> > > https://fs.r-lib.org/
> > >
> > > Gabor
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a little
> > project to cover my usecase:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs
> > > >
> > > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Frank Schwidom
> > > >
> > > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
> > > > >How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a file
> > name NOT be
> > > > >considered a bug?
> > > > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov <[1]
> > krylov.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200
> > > > >  Frank Schwidom <[2]schwi...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  > +> path.expand("a ~ b")
> > > > >  > [1] "a /home/user b"
> > > > >
> > > > >  > How can I switch off any file crippling activity?
> > > > >
> > > > >  It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and
> works
> > > > >  correctly.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName [3],
> > which
> > > > >  calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses libreadline
> > function
> > > > >  tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to expand
> > '~'
> > > > >  anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on whole
> > command
> > > > >  lines, not file paths.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this can be
> > > > >  considered a bug.
> > > > >
> > > > >  --
> > > > >  Best regards,
> > > > >  Ivan
> > > > >
> > > > >  [1]
> > > > >  [3]
> >
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807
> > > > >
> > > > >  [2]
> > > > >  [4]
> >
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915
> > > > >
> > > > >  [3]
> > > > >  [5]
> >
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147
> > > > >
> > > > >  [4]
> > > > >  [6]
> >
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494
> > > > >
> > > > >  [5]
> > > > >  [7]
> > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187
> > > > >
> > > > >  __
> > > > >  [8]R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and
> > more, see
> > > > >  [9]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> > > > >  PLEASE do read the posting guide
> > > > >  [10]http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> > > > >  and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible
> > code.
> > > > >
> > > > > References
> > > > >
> > > > >Visible links
> > > > >1. mailto:krylov.r...@gmail.com
> > > > >2. mailto:schwi...@gmx.net
> > > > >3.
> >
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807
> > 

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-11 Thread Gabriel Becker
Hi Frank,

I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought this up
to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but especially
on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special
meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad
practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest amount of
pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your filenames will
be better for it anyway.

There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I
haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that "everyone"
else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this
behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them problems.

Best,
~G

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding problem.
>
> Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to keep the
> discussion running.
>
> Kind regards,
> Frank Schwidom
>
> On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote:
> > Just in case, have you seen the fs package?
> > https://fs.r-lib.org/
> >
> > Gabor
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a little
> project to cover my usecase:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs
> > >
> > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are welcome.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Frank Schwidom
> > >
> > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
> > > >How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a file
> name NOT be
> > > >considered a bug?
> > > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov <[1]
> krylov.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200
> > > >  Frank Schwidom <[2]schwi...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  > +> path.expand("a ~ b")
> > > >  > [1] "a /home/user b"
> > > >
> > > >  > How can I switch off any file crippling activity?
> > > >
> > > >  It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and works
> > > >  correctly.
> > > >
> > > >  Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName [3],
> which
> > > >  calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses libreadline
> function
> > > >  tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to expand
> '~'
> > > >  anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on whole
> command
> > > >  lines, not file paths.
> > > >
> > > >  I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this can be
> > > >  considered a bug.
> > > >
> > > >  --
> > > >  Best regards,
> > > >  Ivan
> > > >
> > > >  [1]
> > > >  [3]
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807
> > > >
> > > >  [2]
> > > >  [4]
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915
> > > >
> > > >  [3]
> > > >  [5]
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147
> > > >
> > > >  [4]
> > > >  [6]
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494
> > > >
> > > >  [5]
> > > >  [7]
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187
> > > >
> > > >  __
> > > >  [8]R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and
> more, see
> > > >  [9]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> > > >  PLEASE do read the posting guide
> > > >  [10]http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> > > >  and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible
> code.
> > > >
> > > > References
> > > >
> > > >Visible links
> > > >1. mailto:krylov.r...@gmail.com
> > > >2. mailto:schwi...@gmx.net
> > > >3.
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807
> > > >4.
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915
> > > >5.
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147
> > > >6.
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494
> > > >7.
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187
> > > >8. mailto:R-help@r-project.org
> > > >9. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> > > >   10. http://www.r-project.org/posting-guide.html
> > >
> > > __
> > > r-de...@r-project.org mailing list
> > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
> >
>
> __
> r-de...@r-project.org mailing list
> 

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-11 Thread Duncan Murdoch

On 11/06/2019 4:34 p.m., William Dunlap via R-devel wrote:

Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and Linux.
On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line and
is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line.  On Linux it is
replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be replaced
by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home
directory).


That's not quite true:  On Linux the bug is in the code that uses 
libreadline, which you don't have to use.  If you just specify
"--no-readline" when you start R, it will be fine on Linux, as far as I 
can see.


I wouldn't choose that as the default way to run R (it's pretty 
irritating not to have readline support), but it is a workaround for 
this bug.


Duncan Murdoch



Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file system on
your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the names.
My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the names,
but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach.

Bill Dunlap
TIBCO Software
wdunlap tibco.com


On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom  wrote:


Hi Gabriel,

I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am not
able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will not be
able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I think
that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can handle
long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists.

Kind regards,
Frank

On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote:

Hi Frank,
I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought

this up

to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but

especially

on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special
meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad
practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest

amount

of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your

filenames

will be better for it anyway.
There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I
haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that

"everyone"

else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this
behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them
problems.
Best,
~G
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwi...@gmx.net>
wrote:

  Hi,

  yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding
  problem.

  Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to

keep the

  discussion running.

  Kind regards,
  Frank Schwidom

  On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote:
  > Just in case, have you seen the fs package?
  > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/
  >
  > Gabor
  >
  > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3]

schwi...@gmx.net>

  wrote:
  > >
  > > Hi,
  > >
  > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a

little

  project to cover my usecase:
  > >
  > > [4]https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs
  > >
  > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are

welcome.

  > >
  > > Thanks in advance
  > > Frank Schwidom
  > >
  > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
  > > >How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a

file

  name NOT be
  > > >considered a bug?
  > > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov
  <[1][5]krylov.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > > >
  > > >  On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200
  > > >  Frank Schwidom <[2][6]schwi...@gmx.net> wrote:
  > > >
  > > >  > +> path.expand("a ~ b")
  > > >  > [1] "a /home/user b"
  > > >
  > > >  > How can I switch off any file crippling activity?
  > > >
  > > >  It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and
  works
  > > >  correctly.
  > > >
  > > >  Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName

[3],

  which
  > > >  calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses

libreadline

  function
  > > >  tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to

expand

  '~'
  > > >  anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on

whole

  command
  > > >  lines, not file paths.
  > > >
  > > >  I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this

can be

  > > >  considered a bug.
  > > >
  > > >  --
  > > >  Best regards,
  > > >  Ivan
  > > >
  > > >  [1]
  > > >
  [3][7]

https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807

  > > >
  > > >  [2]
  > > >
  

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-11 Thread William Dunlap via R-help
Note that R treats tildes in file names differently on Windows and Linux.
On Windows, it is only replaced if it it at the beginning of the line and
is followed by a forward or backward slash or end-of-line.  On Linux it is
replaced no matter where it is in the text and ~someUser will be replaced
by someUser's home directory (if 'someUser' is a user with a home
directory).

Hence, if you have a Windows machine that can look at the file system on
your Linux machine you can use file.rename on Windows to change the names.
My inclination would be to use a bash script on Linux to change the names,
but if you are not comfortable with bash try the Windows approach.

Bill Dunlap
TIBCO Software
wdunlap tibco.com


On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM Frank Schwidom  wrote:

> Hi Gabriel,
>
> I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am not
> able to express the source filename of the rename operation I will not be
> able to get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I think
> that R is qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can handle
> long vectors of strings, booleans and also lists.
>
> Kind regards,
> Frank
>
> On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote:
> >Hi Frank,
> >I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought
> this up
> >to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but
> especially
> >on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special
> >meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad
> >practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest
> amount
> >of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your
> filenames
> >will be better for it anyway.
> >There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I
> >haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that
> "everyone"
> >else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this
> >behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them
> >problems.
> >Best,
> >~G
> >On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwi...@gmx.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >  Hi,
> >
> >  yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding
> >  problem.
> >
> >  Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to
> keep the
> >  discussion running.
> >
> >  Kind regards,
> >  Frank Schwidom
> >
> >  On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote:
> >  > Just in case, have you seen the fs package?
> >  > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/
> >  >
> >  > Gabor
> >  >
> >  > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3]
> schwi...@gmx.net>
> >  wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > Hi,
> >  > >
> >  > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a
> little
> >  project to cover my usecase:
> >  > >
> >  > > [4]https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs
> >  > >
> >  > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are
> welcome.
> >  > >
> >  > > Thanks in advance
> >  > > Frank Schwidom
> >  > >
> >  > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
> >  > > >How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a
> file
> >  name NOT be
> >  > > >considered a bug?
> >  > > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov
> >  <[1][5]krylov.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200
> >  > > >  Frank Schwidom <[2][6]schwi...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  > +> path.expand("a ~ b")
> >  > > >  > [1] "a /home/user b"
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  > How can I switch off any file crippling activity?
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and
> >  works
> >  > > >  correctly.
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName
> [3],
> >  which
> >  > > >  calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses
> libreadline
> >  function
> >  > > >  tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to
> expand
> >  '~'
> >  > > >  anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on
> whole
> >  command
> >  > > >  lines, not file paths.
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this
> can be
> >  > > >  considered a bug.
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  --
> >  > > >  Best regards,
> >  > > >  Ivan
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  [1]
> >  > > >
> >  [3][7]
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807
> >  > > >
> >  > > >  [2]
> >  > > >
> >  [4][8]
> https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915
> >  > > >
> >  > 

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-11 Thread Frank Schwidom
Hi Gabriel,

I actually want to make renames over thousands of files. But if I am not able 
to express the source filename of the rename operation I will not be able to 
get the work done. Besides the fact that there are issues I think that R is 
qualified for solving my problem by the method how it can handle long vectors 
of strings, booleans and also lists.

Kind regards,
Frank

On 2019-06-11 09:49:17, Gabriel Becker wrote:
>Hi Frank,
>I'm hesitant to be "that guy", but in case no one else has brought this up
>to you, having files with a tilde in their names (generally but especially
>on a linux system, where ~ in file names has a very important special
>meaning in some cases, as we know) strikes me as an exceptionally bad
>practice anyway. In light of that, the solution with the smallest amount
>of pain for you is almost surely to just... not do that. Your filenames
>will be better for it anyway.
>There is a reason no one has complained about this before, and while I
>haven't run a study or anything, I strongly suspect its that "everyone"
>else is already on the "no tildes in filenames" bandwagon, so this
>behavior, even if technically a bug, has no ability to cause them
>problems.
>Best,
>~G
>On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 8:25 AM Frank Schwidom <[1]schwi...@gmx.net>
>wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>  yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding
>  problem.
>
>  Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to keep the
>  discussion running.
>
>  Kind regards,
>  Frank Schwidom
>
>  On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote:
>  > Just in case, have you seen the fs package?
>  > [2]https://fs.r-lib.org/
>  >
>  > Gabor
>  >
>  > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom <[3]schwi...@gmx.net>
>  wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Hi,
>  > >
>  > > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a little
>  project to cover my usecase:
>  > >
>  > > [4]https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs
>  > >
>  > > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are welcome.
>  > >
>  > > Thanks in advance
>  > > Frank Schwidom
>  > >
>  > > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
>  > > >    How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a file
>  name NOT be
>  > > >    considered a bug?
>  > > >    On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov
>  <[1][5]krylov.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >      On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200
>  > > >      Frank Schwidom <[2][6]schwi...@gmx.net> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >      > +> path.expand("a ~ b")
>  > > >      > [1] "a /home/user b"
>  > > >
>  > > >      > How can I switch off any file crippling activity?
>  > > >
>  > > >      It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and
>  works
>  > > >      correctly.
>  > > >
>  > > >      Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName [3],
>  which
>  > > >      calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses libreadline
>  function
>  > > >      tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to expand
>  '~'
>  > > >      anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on whole
>  command
>  > > >      lines, not file paths.
>  > > >
>  > > >      I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this can be
>  > > >      considered a bug.
>  > > >
>  > > >      --
>  > > >      Best regards,
>  > > >      Ivan
>  > > >
>  > > >      [1]
>  > > >     
>  
> [3][7]https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807
>  > > >
>  > > >      [2]
>  > > >     
>  
> [4][8]https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915
>  > > >
>  > > >      [3]
>  > > >     
>  
> [5][9]https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147
>  > > >
>  > > >      [4]
>  > > >     
>  
> [6][10]https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494
>  > > >
>  > > >      [5]
>  > > >     
>  
> [7][11]https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187
>  > > >
>  > > >      __
>  > > >      [8][12]R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE
>  and more, see
>  > > >      [9][13]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
>  > > >      PLEASE do read the posting guide
>  > > >      [10][14]http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>  > > >      and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible
>  code.
>  > > >
>  > > > References
>  > > >
>  > > >    Visible 

Re: [R] [Rd] Open a file which name contains a tilde

2019-06-11 Thread Frank Schwidom
Hi,

yes, I have seen this package and it has the same tilde expanding problem.

Please excuse me I will cc this answer to r-help and r-devel to keep the 
discussion running.

Kind regards,
Frank Schwidom

On 2019-06-11 09:12:36, Gábor Csárdi wrote:
> Just in case, have you seen the fs package?
> https://fs.r-lib.org/
>
> Gabor
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:51 AM Frank Schwidom  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > to get rid of any possible filename modification I started a little project 
> > to cover my usecase:
> >
> > https://github.com/schwidom/simplefs
> >
> > This is my first R package, suggestions and a review are welcome.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Frank Schwidom
> >
> > On 2019-06-07 09:04:06, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
> > >How can expanding tildes anywhere but the beginning of a file name NOT 
> > > be
> > >considered a bug?
> > >On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 23:04, Ivan Krylov <[1]krylov.r...@gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >  On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 18:07:15 +0200
> > >  Frank Schwidom <[2]schwi...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >  > +> path.expand("a ~ b")
> > >  > [1] "a /home/user b"
> > >
> > >  > How can I switch off any file crippling activity?
> > >
> > >  It doesn't seem to be possible if readline is enabled and works
> > >  correctly.
> > >
> > >  Calls to path.expand [1] end up [2] in R_ExpandFileName [3], which
> > >  calls R_ExpandFileName_readline [4], which uses libreadline function
> > >  tilde_expand [5]. tilde_expand seems to be designed to expand '~'
> > >  anywhere in the string it is handed, i.e. operate on whole command
> > >  lines, not file paths.
> > >
> > >  I am taking the liberty of Cc-ing R-devel in case this can be
> > >  considered a bug.
> > >
> > >  --
> > >  Best regards,
> > >  Ivan
> > >
> > >  [1]
> > >  
> > > [3]https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807
> > >
> > >  [2]
> > >  
> > > [4]https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915
> > >
> > >  [3]
> > >  
> > > [5]https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147
> > >
> > >  [4]
> > >  
> > > [6]https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494
> > >
> > >  [5]
> > >  
> > > [7]https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187
> > >
> > >  __
> > >  [8]R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
> > >  [9]https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> > >  PLEASE do read the posting guide
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> > >  and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
> > >
> > > References
> > >
> > >Visible links
> > >1. mailto:krylov.r...@gmail.com
> > >2. mailto:schwi...@gmx.net
> > >3. 
> > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/names.c#L807
> > >4. 
> > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/main/platform.c#L1915
> > >5. 
> > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-unix.c#L147
> > >6. 
> > > https://github.com/wch/r-source/blob/12d1d2d232d84aa355e48b81180a0e2c6f2f/src/unix/sys-std.c#L494
> > >7. 
> > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/readline.git/tree/tilde.c?h=devel#n187
> > >8. mailto:R-help@r-project.org
> > >9. https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
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> >
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