Re: [R] Deprecating download method='wininet' in R on Windows causes trouble with corporate proxy

2022-09-29 Thread Selke, Gisbert W.
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 01:27 Henrik Bengtsson  
wrote

> Is R centrally installed?  
It usually (but not always...) is installed through a central install process, 
but installations will not be kept synchronized. (I.e., we end up having 
independent installations, many different versions, many different collections 
of packages (and versions thereof).)

> If so, environment variables 'HTTP_PROXY', 'HTTPS_PROXY', and 
> 'HTTPS_PROXY_USER' could 
> be set for all users by setting them in the R_HOME/etc/Renviron.site file.  
Yes, this can be delivered centrally. The problem arises if and when the 
variables for the proxy must be adapted (e.g., proxy URL changes). 
I am toying with the idea to source, from the Rprofile.site, a central 
configuration file (specified as a UNC path). Then, if the values of the 
environment variables need to be changed, this is done once for all, and 
roll-out to users will be immediate. 
[...]
> At least this avoid having to configure them in MS Windows settings, which is 
> tedious to document and explain.
I fully agree!

Thank you for your advice, Henrik!
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Re: [R] Deprecating download method='wininet' in R on Windows causes trouble with corporate proxy

2022-09-29 Thread Henrik Bengtsson
Is R centrally installed?  If so, environment variables 'HTTP_PROXY',
'HTTPS_PROXY', and 'HTTPS_PROXY_USER' could be set for all users by
setting them in the R_HOME/etc/Renviron.site file.  R_HOME is the
folder where R is installed.  You can find this file from within R by
calling:

> file.path(R.home("etc"), "Renviron")
[1] "C:/PROGRA~1/R/R-42~1.1/etc/Renviron"

If not centrally installed, I don't know anything better than users
setting them in their personal ~/.Renviron file;

> normalizePath("~/.Renviron")
[1] "C:\\Users\\alice\\Documents\\.Renviron"

For example,

> cat(file = "~/.Renviron", append = TRUE, 
> "HTTP_PROXY=http://proxy-host:3128/";, "HTTPS_PROXY=https://proxy-host:3128/";, 
> "HTTPS_PROXY_USER=dummy", sep = "\n")

At least this avoid having to configure them in MS Windows settings,
which is tedious to document and explain.

My $.02

Henrik

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 3:48 PM Selke, Gisbert W.
 wrote:
>
> Method="wininet" is deprecated and scheduled to go away, the standard method 
> is now libcurl. This causes trouble for all R users in our shop, because we 
> are sitting behind a corporate proxy, which uses Kerberos authentication. 
> (We're all on Windows.)
>
> Using wininet, this used to work without problems and without additional 
> effort; it currently still does with explicit method="wininet" (which, by the 
> way, precludes use of the handy menu command "Update packages", which will 
> use the default method, i.e., libcurl as of now.)
>
> For the future, when wininet will be gone for good, the only option we have 
> is to resort to first setting environment variables HTTP_PROXY and 
> HTTPS_PROXY and then tricking the proxy out of using Kerberos, setting 
> HTTPS_PROXY_USER to a dummy string.
> This is certainly doable for R users with enough knowledge of the 
> technicalities of internet access, but our average R user will just be lost. 
> As has been pointed out elsewhere 
> (https://github.com/rstudio/rstudio/issues/10163#issuecomment-1154071514) , 
> this will create a lot of blood, sweat and tears (and swears), and it is a 
> moderate nightmare to maintain consistently and up-to-date for many users.
>
> My first question is: Since we are probably not the only institution in this 
> situation, has anyone come up with a robust and maintainable solution other 
> than our approach described above?
>
> Failing that: would it be possible at all to change the use that the R core 
> makes of libcurl in such a way that it would automagically Do The Right Thing 
> (tm)? In principle, this should be possible; after all, wininet did the 
> trick, and ordinary browsers can handle this situation. (Disclaimer: I know 
> nothing about the R internals so cannot say whether I am being overly naïve 
> here.)
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> (I'm new to this list, so if this has been discussed here before, I apologize 
> and would be grateful for a pointer to do my reading.)
>
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