Re: [R] OOP module

2010-07-27 Thread Steve Lianoglou
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam  wrote:
> Thank you! As an R newbie I sometimes find it confusing that in R everything 
> can be done in at least four different ways. My question about S4/OOP was 
> motivated by the fact that those two class systems have the same designer 
> (Chambers). It is as if Chambers has designed an "S5" system that has less 
> shortcomings than S4.  For instance, I find it incredibly ugly that S4 
> methods can be defined independently of their class definitions.

As with all things related to lisp, you'll find people that claim it
to be the best, or the worst. It seems those who take the middle
ground are rare ... at least we can avoid the arguments about all
those parentheses, though :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Lisp_Object_System

-- 
Steve Lianoglou
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Re: [R] OOP module

2010-07-27 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
Thank you! As an R newbie I sometimes find it confusing that in R everything 
can be done in at least four different ways. My question about S4/OOP was 
motivated by the fact that those two class systems have the same designer 
(Chambers). It is as if Chambers has designed an "S5" system that has less 
shortcomings than S4.  For instance, I find it incredibly ugly that S4 methods 
can be defined independently of their class definitions. At first glance, OOP 
seems more intuitive. I have no knowledge of R.oo or proto.
 


Cheers!!
Albert-Jan

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order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have 
the Romans ever done for us?
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--- On Tue, 7/27/10, schuster  wrote:


From: schuster 
Subject: Re: [R] OOP module
To: r-help@r-project.org
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 7:01 AM



Hello, 

My impression is that the OOP package is not used that often.

For alternatives (R.oo, proto) see the posts of Gabor Grothendieck:
http://www.mail-archive.com/r-help@r-project.org/msg73565.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/r-help@r-project.org/msg75308.html


Friedrich Schuster
Dompfaffenweg 6
69123 Heidelberg

On Monday 26 July 2010 05:52:13 pm Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
> Hello,
> �
> Does anybody know if the OOP module (Chambers & Temple Lang) is going to
>  replace the the S4 (and the S3) class system?
>  http://www.omegahat.org/OOP/oop.pdf
> 
> Cheers!!
> Albert-Jan
> 
> ~~
> All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine,
>  public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health,
>  what have the Romans ever done for us?
>  ~~
> 
> 
> 
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> 

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Re: [R] OOP module

2010-07-26 Thread schuster

Hello, 

My impression is that the OOP package is not used that often.

For alternatives (R.oo, proto) see the posts of Gabor Grothendieck:
http://www.mail-archive.com/r-help@r-project.org/msg73565.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/r-help@r-project.org/msg75308.html


Friedrich Schuster
Dompfaffenweg 6
69123 Heidelberg

On Monday 26 July 2010 05:52:13 pm Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
> Hello,
> �
> Does anybody know if the OOP module (Chambers & Temple Lang) is going to
>  replace the the S4 (and the S3) class system?
>  http://www.omegahat.org/OOP/oop.pdf
> 
> Cheers!!
> Albert-Jan
> 
> ~~
> All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine,
>  public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health,
>  what have the Romans ever done for us?
>  ~~
> 
> 
> 
>   [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
> 

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