Re: [R] limits on liniar model

2011-08-03 Thread Bert Gunter
Please use R's search capabilities before posting.

RSiteSearch(Linear Model with Constraints)

appears to give you what you're looking for. Incidentally, with
constraints, the model is no longer linear, I believe.

-- Bert

2011/8/3 ראובן אברמוביץ gantk...@walla.com:

   Can I put limits on the lm() command? I only know that you can choose a
   liniar model with or without an intercept, but can I put other limits on
   the coefficients (for example- the intercept must be bigger than 1) ?

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Re: [R] limits on liniar model

2011-08-03 Thread John Sorkin
It is hard to prove a negative, but to the best of my knowledge lm will not do 
what you want. This does not mean there is not a function that will perform 
your analyses; the sort of thing you want to do is often accomplished using 
non-linear methods.
John 

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   Can I put limits on the lm() command? I only know that you can choose a
   liniar model with or without an intercept, but can I put other limits on
   the coefficients (for example- the intercept must be bigger than 1) ?

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Re: [R] limits of a data frame size for reading into R

2010-08-05 Thread Matthew Keller
I sometimes have to work with vectors/matrices with  2^31 - 1
elements. I have found the bigmemory package to be of great help. My
lab is also going to learn sqldf package for getting bits of big data
into/out of R. Learning both of those packages should help you work
with large datasets in R.

That said, I still hold out hope that someday, the powers that be - or
some hotshot operation like R+ or Revolutions - will see that
increasing numbers of users will routinely need to access  2^31-1
elements, and that the packages above are a band-aid on a deeper
issue: using such large datasets with ease in R. As of now, it remains
quite awkward.

Matt



On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Duncan Murdoch
murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 03/08/2010 2:28 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski wrote:

 And once one above the limit that Jim indicated - is there anything one
 can do?


 Yes, there are several packages for handling datasets that are too big to
 fit in memory:  biglm, ff, etc.  You need to change your code to work with
 them, so it's a lot of work to do something unusual, but there are
 possibilities.

 Duncan Murdoch

 Thank you!
 Dimitri


 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski
 dimitri.liakhovit...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks a lot, it's very helpful!
  Dimitri
 
  On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Duncan Murdoch
  murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 03/08/2010 1:10 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski wrote:
 
  I understand the question I am about to ask is rather vague and
  depends on the task and my PC memory. However, I'll give it a try:
 
  Let's assume the goal is just to read in the data frame into R and
  then do some simple analyses with it (e.g., multiple regression of
  some variables onto some - just a few - variables).
 
  Is there a limit to the number of columns of a data frame that R can
  handle? I am asking because where I work many use SAS and they are
  running into the limit of ~13,700columns there.
 
  Since I am asking - is there a limit to the number of rows?
 
  Or is the correct way of asking the question: my PC's memory is X. The
  .txt tab-delimited file I am trying to read in has the size of YYY Mb,
  can I read it in?
 
 
  Besides what Jim said, there is a 2^31-1 limit on the number of
  elements in
  a vector.  Dataframes are vectors of vectors, so you can have at most
  2^31-1
  rows and 2^31-1 columns.  Matrices are vectors, so they're limited to
  2^31-1
  elements in total.
  This is only likely to be a limitation on a 64 bit machine; in 32 bits
  you'll run out of memory first.
 
  Duncan Murdoch
 
 
 
 
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Re: [R] limits of a data frame size for reading into R

2010-08-03 Thread jim holtman
You probably don't want an object that is larger than about 25% of the
physical memory so that copies can be made during some processing.  If
you are running on a 32-bit system which will limit you to at most 3GB
of memory, then your largest object should not be greater than 800MB.
If you want to have 13,700 columns of numeric data (takes 8 bytes per
element), then each row would require about 100KB and that would mean
you would probably have an object with about 8000 rows.

64-bit is probably limited by how much you want to spend for memory.

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski
dimitri.liakhovit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I understand the question I am about to ask is rather vague and
 depends on the task and my PC memory. However, I'll give it a try:

 Let's assume the goal is just to read in the data frame into R and
 then do some simple analyses with it (e.g., multiple regression of
 some variables onto some - just a few - variables).

 Is there a limit to the number of columns of a data frame that R can
 handle? I am asking because where I work many use SAS and they are
 running into the limit of ~13,700columns there.

 Since I am asking - is there a limit to the number of rows?

 Or is the correct way of asking the question: my PC's memory is X. The
 .txt tab-delimited file I am trying to read in has the size of YYY Mb,
 can I read it in?

 Thanks a lot!

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 Ninah Consulting
 www.ninah.com

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Re: [R] limits of a data frame size for reading into R

2010-08-03 Thread Duncan Murdoch

On 03/08/2010 1:10 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski wrote:

I understand the question I am about to ask is rather vague and
depends on the task and my PC memory. However, I'll give it a try:

Let's assume the goal is just to read in the data frame into R and
then do some simple analyses with it (e.g., multiple regression of
some variables onto some - just a few - variables).

Is there a limit to the number of columns of a data frame that R can
handle? I am asking because where I work many use SAS and they are
running into the limit of ~13,700columns there.

Since I am asking - is there a limit to the number of rows?

Or is the correct way of asking the question: my PC's memory is X. The
.txt tab-delimited file I am trying to read in has the size of YYY Mb,
can I read it in?
  


Besides what Jim said, there is a 2^31-1 limit on the number of elements 
in a vector.  Dataframes are vectors of vectors, so you can have at most 
2^31-1 rows and 2^31-1 columns.  Matrices are vectors, so they're 
limited to 2^31-1 elements in total. 

This is only likely to be a limitation on a 64 bit machine; in 32 bits 
you'll run out of memory first.


Duncan Murdoch

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Re: [R] limits of a data frame size for reading into R

2010-08-03 Thread Dimitri Liakhovitski
Thanks a lot, it's very helpful!
Dimitri

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 03/08/2010 1:10 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski wrote:

 I understand the question I am about to ask is rather vague and
 depends on the task and my PC memory. However, I'll give it a try:

 Let's assume the goal is just to read in the data frame into R and
 then do some simple analyses with it (e.g., multiple regression of
 some variables onto some - just a few - variables).

 Is there a limit to the number of columns of a data frame that R can
 handle? I am asking because where I work many use SAS and they are
 running into the limit of ~13,700columns there.

 Since I am asking - is there a limit to the number of rows?

 Or is the correct way of asking the question: my PC's memory is X. The
 .txt tab-delimited file I am trying to read in has the size of YYY Mb,
 can I read it in?


 Besides what Jim said, there is a 2^31-1 limit on the number of elements in
 a vector.  Dataframes are vectors of vectors, so you can have at most 2^31-1
 rows and 2^31-1 columns.  Matrices are vectors, so they're limited to 2^31-1
 elements in total.
 This is only likely to be a limitation on a 64 bit machine; in 32 bits
 you'll run out of memory first.

 Duncan Murdoch




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Re: [R] limits of a data frame size for reading into R

2010-08-03 Thread Dimitri Liakhovitski
And once one above the limit that Jim indicated - is there anything one can do?
Thank you!
Dimitri


On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski
dimitri.liakhovit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks a lot, it's very helpful!
 Dimitri

 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On 03/08/2010 1:10 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski wrote:

 I understand the question I am about to ask is rather vague and
 depends on the task and my PC memory. However, I'll give it a try:

 Let's assume the goal is just to read in the data frame into R and
 then do some simple analyses with it (e.g., multiple regression of
 some variables onto some - just a few - variables).

 Is there a limit to the number of columns of a data frame that R can
 handle? I am asking because where I work many use SAS and they are
 running into the limit of ~13,700columns there.

 Since I am asking - is there a limit to the number of rows?

 Or is the correct way of asking the question: my PC's memory is X. The
 .txt tab-delimited file I am trying to read in has the size of YYY Mb,
 can I read it in?


 Besides what Jim said, there is a 2^31-1 limit on the number of elements in
 a vector.  Dataframes are vectors of vectors, so you can have at most 2^31-1
 rows and 2^31-1 columns.  Matrices are vectors, so they're limited to 2^31-1
 elements in total.
 This is only likely to be a limitation on a 64 bit machine; in 32 bits
 you'll run out of memory first.

 Duncan Murdoch




 --
 Dimitri Liakhovitski
 Ninah Consulting
 www.ninah.com




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Re: [R] limits of a data frame size for reading into R

2010-08-03 Thread Duncan Murdoch

On 03/08/2010 2:28 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski wrote:

And once one above the limit that Jim indicated - is there anything one can do?
  


Yes, there are several packages for handling datasets that are too big 
to fit in memory:  biglm, ff, etc.  You need to change your code to work 
with them, so it's a lot of work to do something unusual, but there are 
possibilities.


Duncan Murdoch


Thank you!
Dimitri


On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski
dimitri.liakhovit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks a lot, it's very helpful!
 Dimitri

 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Duncan Murdoch murdoch.dun...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 On 03/08/2010 1:10 PM, Dimitri Liakhovitski wrote:

 I understand the question I am about to ask is rather vague and
 depends on the task and my PC memory. However, I'll give it a try:

 Let's assume the goal is just to read in the data frame into R and
 then do some simple analyses with it (e.g., multiple regression of
 some variables onto some - just a few - variables).

 Is there a limit to the number of columns of a data frame that R can
 handle? I am asking because where I work many use SAS and they are
 running into the limit of ~13,700columns there.

 Since I am asking - is there a limit to the number of rows?

 Or is the correct way of asking the question: my PC's memory is X. The
 .txt tab-delimited file I am trying to read in has the size of YYY Mb,
 can I read it in?


 Besides what Jim said, there is a 2^31-1 limit on the number of elements in
 a vector.  Dataframes are vectors of vectors, so you can have at most 2^31-1
 rows and 2^31-1 columns.  Matrices are vectors, so they're limited to 2^31-1
 elements in total.
 This is only likely to be a limitation on a 64 bit machine; in 32 bits
 you'll run out of memory first.

 Duncan Murdoch




 --
 Dimitri Liakhovitski
 Ninah Consulting
 www.ninah.com







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Re: [R] limits

2009-05-13 Thread Mike Prager
Uwe Ligges lig...@statistik.tu-dortmund.de wrote:

 So you want some software that can do symbolic calculations? In that 
 case use other software. R is designed for numerical analyses.

In particular, if you are looking for good free software, you
might try Maxima.


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Re: [R] limits

2009-05-13 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Try the rSymPy or Ryacas packages.

In the rSymPy code below the var command defines x
as symbolic to sympy and then we perform the
computation:

 library(rSymPy)
Loading required package: rJava
 sympy(var('x'))
[1] x
 sympy(limit(x*x + x + 2, x, 2))
[1] 8

Or using devel version define x as symbolic first to sympy
and then to R:

 library(rSymPy)
 source(http://rsympy.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/R/Sym.R;)
 sympy(var('x'))
[1] x
 x - Sym(x)
 limit(x*x + x + 2, x, 2)
[1] 8

or using Ryacas:

 library(Ryacas)
Loading required package: XML
 x - Sym(x)
 Limit(x^2+x+2, x, 2)
[1] Starting Yacas!
expression(8)

More info is available here which you should read before
using these packages:

http://rsympy.googlecode.com
http://ryacas.googlecode.com


On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Hassan Mohamed
hassan_hany_fa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hey,
 what is the R function for the mathematical limit ?
 e.g. to calculate  and return the amount that the expression
 X^2 +X +2
 approach
 as X approach 2
 (X- 2)
 thanks
 hassan



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Re: [R] limits

2009-05-05 Thread Jorge Ivan Velez
Dear Hassam,
Take a look at the section 5.8 in [1].

HTH,

Jorge

[1] http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/Ryacas/vignettes/Ryacas.pdf


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hassan_hany_fa...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hey,
 what is the R function for the mathematical limit ?
 e.g. to calculate  and return the amount that the expression
 X^2 +X +2
 approach
 as X approach 2
 (X- 2)
 thanks
 hassan



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Re: [R] limits

2009-05-05 Thread Uwe Ligges



Hassan Mohamed wrote:

Hey,
what is the R function for the mathematical limit ?
e.g. to calculate  and return the amount that the expression
X^2 +X +2 
approach

as X approach 2
(X- 2)



So you want some software that can do symbolic calculations? In that 
case use other software. R is designed for numerical analyses.


Uwe Ligges



thanks
hassan


  
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Re: [R] limits on the length of the name of a script file in R 2.6.0.?

2007-11-26 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 11/26/2007 11:03 AM, Dimitri Liakhovitski wrote:
 Hello!
 I posted earlier - about my problems with R 2.6 crashing (i.e.,
 telling me it needs to shut down) every time I tried to open an R
 script. First, it looked like it was unhappy with my working outside
 of R folder (under Program Files). But not it looks like it was not
 really the problem.
 Now, it opens and works when I open scripts whose names are not very
 long (e.g., Selecting cases I need.R). But it does crash (gives me a
 message that R needs to shut down) when the script I am trying to open
 has a slightly longer file name (e.g, in my case:
 randforestImportanceExample with MR.r and longer).
 
 Is anyone aware of the limits the latest version of R imposes on
 script name length? I never experienced such a problem with R 2.5.0.

The latest version of R is 2.6.1 (released today), but I doubt if you're 
using that yet.  It has the same limit as Windows on filename length.

2.6.0 had a bug which meant long filenames could cause a crash.  This 
was repaired a couple of weeks ago:

http://developer.r-project.org/blosxom.cgi/R-2-6-branch/2007/11/10#c2007-11-10

Duncan Murdoch

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