Re: [R] p-value for hazard ratio in Cox proportional hazards regression?

2011-12-16 Thread Joshua Wiley
...@stanford.edu
 CC: r-help@r-project.org
 Gesendet: Samstag, 10. Dezember 2011 13:53:00
 Betreff: Re: [R] p-value for hazard ratio in Cox proportional hazards 
 regression?

 Hi Thierry,

 Could you give us an example of what exactly you are doing
 (preferablly reproducible R code)?  I may be misunderstanding you, but
 if you are fitting cox proportional hazard models using the coxph()
 function from the surival package, summary(yourmodel) should give the
 SE, p-value based on the wald statistic, and 95% CI.

 Cheers,

 Josh

 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Thierry Julian Panje
 tpa...@stanford.edu wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm new to R and using it for Cox survival analysis. Thanks to this great 
 forum I learned how to compute the HR with its confidence interval.
 My question would be: Is there any way to get the p-value for a hazard 
 ratio in addition to the confidence interval?

 Thanks,
 Thierry



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Re: [R] p-value for hazard ratio in Cox proportional hazards regression?

2011-12-10 Thread Joshua Wiley
Hi Thierry,

Could you give us an example of what exactly you are doing
(preferablly reproducible R code)?  I may be misunderstanding you, but
if you are fitting cox proportional hazard models using the coxph()
function from the surival package, summary(yourmodel) should give the
SE, p-value based on the wald statistic, and 95% CI.

Cheers,

Josh

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Thierry Julian Panje
tpa...@stanford.edu wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm new to R and using it for Cox survival analysis. Thanks to this great 
 forum I learned how to compute the HR with its confidence interval.
 My question would be: Is there any way to get the p-value for a hazard ratio 
 in addition to the confidence interval?

 Thanks,
 Thierry



 --
 Thierry Panje                  Visiting Student Researcher
 Department of Psychology       Stanford Psychophysiology Lab
 450 Serra Mall, Bldg 420       Stanford University

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Re: [R] p-value for hazard ratio in Cox proportional hazards regression?

2011-12-10 Thread Joshua Wiley
Hi Thierry,

I see what you want now---a significance test for the HR specifically.
 See inline below

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Thierry Julian Panje
tpa...@stanford.edu wrote:
 Hi Josh,

 Thank you for your quick response!

 In several papers the results of a Cox Regression were presented in a table 
 showing the variable name, the hazard ratio for two values of this variable, 
 the 95% confidence interval of the hazard ratio and a p-value.
 (e.g., Lett 2007. Social support and prognosis in patients at increased 
 psychosocial risk recovering from myocardial infarction. Health psychology 
 http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/hea/26/4/418.pdf; page 6 Table 2)

 When I use summary() for a coxph() function, for example:

 summary(mod.allison)
 Call:
 coxph(formula = Surv(week, arrest) ~ fin + age + race + wexp +
    mar + paro + prio, data = Rossi)

  n= 432, number of events= 114

                   coef exp(coef) se(coef)      z Pr(|z|)
 finyes         -0.37942   0.68426  0.19138 -1.983  0.04742 *
 age            -0.05744   0.94418  0.02200 -2.611  0.00903 **
 raceother      -0.31390   0.73059  0.30799 -1.019  0.30812
 wexpyes        -0.14980   0.86088  0.21222 -0.706  0.48029
 marnot married  0.43370   1.54296  0.38187  1.136  0.25606
 paroyes        -0.08487   0.91863  0.19576 -0.434  0.66461
 prio            0.09150   1.09581  0.02865  3.194  0.00140 **
 ---
 Signif. codes:  0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1

               exp(coef) exp(-coef) lower .95 upper .95
 finyes            0.6843     1.4614    0.4702    0.9957
 age               0.9442     1.0591    0.9043    0.9858
 raceother         0.7306     1.3688    0.3995    1.3361
 wexpyes           0.8609     1.1616    0.5679    1.3049
 marnot married    1.5430     0.6481    0.7300    3.2614
 paroyes           0.9186     1.0886    0.6259    1.3482
 prio              1.0958     0.9126    1.0360    1.1591

 Concordance= 0.64  (se = 0.027 )
 Rsquare= 0.074   (max possible= 0.956 )
 Likelihood ratio test= 33.27  on 7 df,   p=2.362e-05
 Wald test            = 32.11  on 7 df,   p=3.871e-05
 Score (logrank) test = 33.53  on 7 df,   p=2.11e-05


 I thought, the value in the Pr(|z|) column indicated the significance of 
 the coefficient and not of a hazard ratio.

That is correct.


 Is it possible to assess the statistical significance of a hazard ratio not 
 only with a confidence interval but also with a p-value and to compute that 
 in R?

I am hoping someone else will chime in here.  I might naively try this
(but do validate before publishing).  For the standard error of the
hazard ratio, I use exp(coef) * se, and then assume that (exp(coef) -
1)/(exp(coef) * se) is ~ x2(1).  A quick look through Terry Therneau's
book, Modeling Survival Data did not turn up any particular ways to
get this automatically in R.  Note that the confidence interval (and
this is consistent with summary()) is based on exponentiating the
linear predictor's lower and upper limits, not the SE of the
exponetiated predictor.

require(survival)
set.seed(1)
d - data.frame(
  start = start - sample(1:10, 600, TRUE),
  stop = start + sample(1:7, 600, TRUE),
  event = event - rbinom(600, 1, .7),
  x1 = event * rbinom(600, 1, .7),
  x2 = rnorm(600, 0, 1))

m - coxph(Surv(start, stop, event) ~ x1 + x2, d)
beta - coef(m)
se - sqrt(diag(vcov(m)))
HR - exp(beta)
HRse - HR * se

summary(m)
round(cbind(coef = beta, se = se, z = beta/se, p = 1 - pchisq((beta/se)^2, 1),
  HR = HR, HRse = HRse,
HRz = (HR - 1) / HRse, HRp = 1 - pchisq(((HR - 1)/HRse)^2, 1),
HRCILL = exp(beta - qnorm(.975, 0, 1) * se),
HRCIUL = exp(beta + qnorm(.975, 0, 1) * se)), 3)



 Or is it usual to present a hazard ratio together with the p-value of the 
 coefficient?

usual probably depends on the area.  I have seen the coefficients
presented with p-values, and the 95%CI of the hazard ratio.  I do not
know that there is any one required set of statistics to be reported.

 Or do the coefficient and any defined hazard ratio of a variable have in fact 
 the same p-value?

No, it is a nonlinear transformation and the p-values are not the same.


 I would like to apologize if these were trivial questions and I fear they are 
 not totally R-specific. Thus I understand if you don't have the time to 
 answer them. However, I would greatly appreciate any help.

Aspects are not, but aspects are.  Certainly, asking if there is a way
to get a test of the hazard ratio in R (without hacking something
together like I did) seems reasonable to me at least to ask.

Cheers,

Josh


 Best,
 Thierry



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 Von: Joshua Wiley jwiley.ps...@gmail.com
 An: Thierry Julian Panje tpa...@stanford.edu
 CC: r-help@r-project.org
 Gesendet: Samstag, 10. Dezember 2011 13:53:00
 Betreff: Re: [R] p-value for hazard ratio in Cox proportional hazards 
 regression?

 Hi Thierry,

 Could you give us an example of what exactly you are doing
 (preferablly reproducible R code)?  I may be misunderstanding you