RE: [R] R 2.0.0 not suffisantly reliable to be be used

2004-10-10 Thread Liaw, Andy
 From: Fan
 
 After wasting one whole day, I've finally decided to stay with 1.9.1,
 some problems have been reported to R-Bugs.
 
 For occasional users, I would say, there's no worst thing than that:
 you installed the new release, and soem of your existing codes no
 longer work !

Given the attitude that you've taken, I'd guess you do not deserve the
improvements introduced in R-2.0.0.  If you are at all serious about having
your code working with R-2.0.0, you would have tested it in the alpha/beta
cycle, and try to resolve it before the official release, rather than
ranting about it after the fact.  Most people know better, and will not
appreciate how you denigrate R-core's effort.

Andy

ps: If it's too hard for you to learn to spell, at least learn to use a
spell checker.

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Re: [R] R 2.0.0 is not suffisantly reliable to be used

2004-10-10 Thread Fan
WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU, SIR ?
Perhaps you're expecting some sort of congratulations for that new
release ?  I've taken time to download it, test it, and
I've said what I've got to say.
You're helping nobody with that sort of process of intention.
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Liaw, Andy wrote:
From: Fan
After wasting one whole day, I've finally decided to stay with 1.9.1,
some problems have been reported to R-Bugs.
For occasional users, I would say, there's no worst thing than that:
you installed the new release, and soem of your existing codes no
longer work !

Given the attitude that you've taken, I'd guess you do not deserve the
improvements introduced in R-2.0.0.  If you are at all serious about having
your code working with R-2.0.0, you would have tested it in the alpha/beta
cycle, and try to resolve it before the official release, rather than
ranting about it after the fact.  Most people know better, and will not
appreciate how you denigrate R-core's effort.
Andy
ps: If it's too hard for you to learn to spell, at least learn to use a
spell checker.

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Re: [R] R 2.0.0 is not suffisantly reliable to be used

2004-10-10 Thread Kevin Bartz
Fan wrote:
WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU, SIR ?
Perhaps you're expecting some sort of congratulations for that new
release ?  I've taken time to download it, test it, and
I've said what I've got to say.
You're helping nobody with that sort of process of intention.
--
Fan
Liaw, Andy wrote:
From: Fan
After wasting one whole day, I've finally decided to stay with 1.9.1,
some problems have been reported to R-Bugs.
For occasional users, I would say, there's no worst thing than that:
you installed the new release, and soem of your existing codes no
longer work !

Given the attitude that you've taken, I'd guess you do not deserve the
improvements introduced in R-2.0.0.  If you are at all serious about 
having
your code working with R-2.0.0, you would have tested it in the 
alpha/beta
cycle, and try to resolve it before the official release, rather than
ranting about it after the fact.  Most people know better, and will not
appreciate how you denigrate R-core's effort.

Andy
ps: If it's too hard for you to learn to spell, at least learn to use a
spell checker.

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Hey Fan, sorry to hear that the latest version isn't working for you. 
You know, maybe I can help... what specifically were the problems that 
emerged when you installed the new version? I'd be happy to try to 
diagnose the lines or commands that are now giving you errors. I have a 
vast amount of existing code that ported with very few problems from 
1.9.1 to 2.0.0. I think it would be very informative for everyone--and 
you may get some quality answers--if you posted the lines that once 
worked but now bomb out.

Kevin
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Re: [R] some help interpreting ANOVA results, please?

2004-10-10 Thread Spencer Graves

RenE J.V. Bertin wrote:
...
Would you have any suggestions for an accessible text explaining lme, apart 
from MASS-4?
 The standard reference on lme is Pinheiro and Bates (2000) 
Mixed-Effects Models in S and S-Plus (Springer).  I have found this book 
very valuable (as I have Bates' other book on nonlinear regression with 
Don Watts). 

 hope this helps.  spencer graves
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