Re: [R] Running Internet Explorer from Withing R

2005-07-29 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Peter Dalgaard wrote:

 Walter R. Paczkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Good morning,

 Is it possible to open an html file using IE but from within R? I
 wrote a small function to generate tables in html but I'd like to
 write another function to call IE and open the html file.

 browseURL() (if it exists on Windows)

It does.

And more generally for any file type, shell.exec (only on Windows) opens 
a file with the associated application. (browseURL is built on top of 
shell.exec.)


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[R] R: non parametric regression/kernels

2005-07-29 Thread Clark Allan
hi all

i have a another stats question.

i would like to solve the following question:

y(i)=a+b*x(i)+e(i)

i.e. estimate a and b (they should be fixed) but i dont want to specify
the standard density to the straight line.

this can be done using kernel regression. the fitted line is however
fitted locally. does anyone have a reference that will help me with my
problem.

i am still new to kernels/kernel regression and would like to get into
the subject.

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Re: [R] R: non parametric regression/kernels

2005-07-29 Thread Vito Ricci
Hi Clark,

see: 
? loess

http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/library/stats/html/loess.html

? scatter.smooth 

http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/library/stats/html/scatter.smooth.html

Regards,

Vito

Clark Allan Allan at STATS.uct.ac.za wrote:

hi all

i have a another stats question.

i would like to solve the following question:

y(i)=a+b*x(i)+e(i)

i.e. estimate a and b (they should be fixed) but i
dont want to specify
the standard density to the straight line.

this can be done using kernel regression. the fitted
line is however
fitted locally. does anyone have a reference that will
help me with my
problem.

i am still new to kernels/kernel regression and would
like to get into
the subject.

/
allan



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[R] predictive classification groups functions

2005-07-29 Thread Leonardo Lami
Hi all,
I have a little question about linear discriminant analysis in R.
I have a dataframe with datas groupped by 4 cluster.
I'd like to know if there is a command that give 4 predictive classification 
groups functions (one for every cluster group).

Thanks of all
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Re: [R] Identify function with matplot

2005-07-29 Thread Uwe Ligges
Hari Iyer wrote:

 Hello
 Is there a way to use the   identify function with matplot  ?

Not directly, but you can write a wrapper for the particular case as in:

sines - outer(1:20, 1:4, function(x, y) sin(x / 20 * pi * y))
matplot(sines, pch = 1:4, type = o, col = rainbow(ncol(sines)))

identifyMat - function(x, ...){
   label - paste(row(x), , , col(x), sep=)
   identify(row(x), x, labels=label, ...)
}
identifyMat(sines)

Uwe Ligges


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Re: [R] NA handling with lm

2005-07-29 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
Also have a look at this thread from last week
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2005-July/074550.html

Regards, Adai



On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 18:59 +0200, Petr Pikal wrote:
 Hallo
 
 On 28 Jul 2005 at 18:44, Andreas Cordes wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I have a problem that is hopefully easily solvable, but I dont find
  the clue in the documentation. I am examining a linear model. One of
  the variables has NA values. Even though na.action=na.omit, i get NA
  as results for this variable. Can I use lm in such a case to get
  estimates? Or do I have to do some form of imputation before doing so?
  Here is the call and the results, hope you can help. Best regards,
  Andreas
  --
  --- lm(formula = ESSIK ~ ALTER + as.factor(S2) +
  as.factor(S15A) +
  as.factor(S8) + as.factor(LAND) + as.factor(S18B) +
  as.factor(BERUF) + as.factor(KIRCHE) + as.factor(H_EINKOM) +
  as.factor(PARTNERS), na.action = na.omit)
  
  Residuals:
   Min   1Q   Median   3Q  Max
  -17.0675  -2.0151   0.4267   2.7644   9.7333
  
  Coefficients: (2 not defined because of singularities)
 
 Problem is not in NA handling but that some of your coeficients 
 can be represented as linear combination of other coeficients. You 
 have to omit them.
 
 HTH
 Petr
 
 
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)   
  (Intercept)  23.755915   1.844110  12.882   2e-16 ***
  [...]
  as.factor(BERUF)7-1.236836   0.701323  -1.764 0.077942 . 
  as.factor(KIRCHE)1   -0.811751   0.237699  -3.415 0.000649 ***
  as.factor(H_EINKOM)2NA NA  NA   NA   
  as.factor(H_EINKOM)3NA NA  NA   NA   
  as.factor(PARTNERS)1  2.057070   0.342546   6.005 2.23e-09 ***
  
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Re: [R] matrix form

2005-07-29 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
If you mean how to create a matrix like below, then you can code it as

   arm   - 1:10
   study - rep( 1:4, c(3,3,2,2) )
   Num   - c(2, 9, ...)

   df - cbind( arm, study, Num )

but this is really painful. If you have this information stored in
Excel, save it as tab delimited or comma separated format and read in
using read.delim or read.csv respectively. You can also use scan.
See help(read.delim), help(read.csv) or help(scan).
   
If you mean how to extract information from such a matrix, then see
help(subset) or read the manuals.

Regards, Adai



On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 17:45 +0100, Hathaikan Chootrakool wrote:
 I am a new user, i was wondering how to define a collection of data in
 matrix form,
 this is a part of my data,there are 26 studies, 3 Treatments
 
Arm No  Study no.  Treatment  Num(r) Total(n)
 111 1  243
 221 2  942
 331 3  13   41
 442 1  12   68
 552 2  13   73
 662 3  13   72
 773 1   4   20
 883 3   4   16
 994 1  20   116
 10  104 3  30   111
 
 I would like to use matrix [study No,Treatment] how can i define code for
 using matrix?
 
 has anyone can help me?,thank you very much.
 
 Hathaikan
 
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Re: [R] Forcing coefficents in lm(), recursive residuals, etc.

2005-07-29 Thread Rick Ram
Hi all,
Just to clarify, I know that the predict() function would the normal
avenue for applying a model but the problem is that I need to
calculate recursive residuals, and the recresid() function needs an
object with class lm.
Best,
R.

On 28/07/05, Rick Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry guys, resending this - none of my posts have gone through
 because HTML emails where not being delivered... sending this
 plaintext now!
 
 On 28/07/05, Rick Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Resending cos I think this didn't get through for some reason... apologies
  if it arrives twice!
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Rick Ram  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 28-Jul-2005 18:03
  Subject: Forcing coefficents in lm(), recursive residuals, etc.
  To: R-help r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch 
 
  Hello all,
 
  Does anyone know how to constrain/force specific coefficients when running
  lm()?
 
  I need to run recresid() {strucchange package} on the residuals of
  forecast.lm, but forecast.lm's coefficients must be determined by
  parameter.estimation.lm
 
  I could estimate forecast.lm without lm() and use some other kind of
  optimisation, but recresid() requires an object with class lm.  recresid()
  allows you to specify a formula, rather than an lm object, but it looks like
  coefficients are estimated this way too and can't be forced.
 
  Here is a bit of code to compensate for my poor explanation:.
 
  # Estimate the coefficients of model
  parameter.estimation.lm = lm(formula = y ~ x1 + x2, data =
  estimation.dataset)
  # How do I force the coefficients in forecast.lm to the coeff estimation
  from parameter.estimation.lm??
 
  forecast.lm = lm(formula = y ~ x1 + x2, data = forecast.dataset)
  # Because I need recursive residuals from the application of the
  coefficients from parameter.estimation.lm to a different dataset
  recresid(forecast.lm)
 
  Thanks in advance guys,
 
  R.


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[R] Binary outcome with non-absorbing outcome state

2005-07-29 Thread John Sorkin
I am trying to model data in which subjects are followed through time to
determine if they fall, or do not fall. Some of the subjects fall once,
some fall several times. Follow-up time varies from subject to subject.
I know how to model time to the first fall (e.g. Cox Proportional
Hazards, Kaplan-Meir analyses, etc.) but I am not sure how I can model
the data if I include the data for those subjects who fall more than
once. I would appreciate suggestions about a models that I could use,
how I would quantify the follow-up time, how I account for the imbalance
in the data (some subjects would contribute one outcome measure, others
multiple measures), etc.
 
Many thanks,
John   
 
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Baltimore VA Medical Center GRECC and
University of Maryland School of Medicine Claude Pepper OAIC
 
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[R] PLS component selection for GPLS question

2005-07-29 Thread Torsten Schindler
How to select the number of PLS components for GPLS for data sets  
with few samples?


Concrete problem:
My data set: 9 samples of class A and 37 of class B with 254  
descriptors.


In the paper: Classification Using Generalized Partial Least  
Squares, Beiying Ding, Robert Gentleman, Bioconductor

Project Working Papers, year 2004, paper 5

Section 2.6 Assessing Prediction:
Cite: The optimal number of PLS components is selected by choosing  
that value of K which minimizes LOOCV

error rate for the training set.

and in section 3.1.3 Colon data, subsection: Random splitting
Cite: Due to the instability of LOOCV error rates for data with few  
samples and many covariates, comparison of various
classifiers based solely on LOOCV classification errors may not be  
reliable.


the authors use random splitting to determine the number of PLS  
components in GPLS, but I'm still not sure how to

choose the right number of PLS components for my data set.

I used the function errorest() from package ipred to estimate the  
error rates und gpls() with Firth procedure switched on.

The attached PDF Graphik illustrates the problem for my data set.

S_n is the model sensitivity and S_p the model specifity.
With 4 component I get the best crossvalidation error rate 17% and  
with 5 components the best bootstrap error rate 9%, but

the sensitivity of the model is only 11% !
If one choose 13 components, one gets 100% sensitivity and 100%  
specifity and CV error is 34% and the boostrap error is 40%

and the risk that the model is overtrained is higher.

How much components should I choose now to get the best GPLS model?



GPLS_component_selection.pdf
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[R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread Clark Allan
a simple question

how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?

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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread Sean O'Riordain
Alan,
I'm not sure what you mean...

perhaps

plot(y~x) # to the screen
pdf(myplot.pdf)
plot(y~x) # write the plot to the file
dev.off() # close the file
dev.off() # close the graphics window

s/

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 a simple question
 
 how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?
 
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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread Clark Allan
one could use the par command to plot several plots on 1 graphics
device.

i would like to do the following:

say plot(y~x) on one screen and then

plot(q~w) on another screen so that one can see both of them together
but not on the same graphics device.

Sean O'Riordain wrote:
 
 Alan,
 I'm not sure what you mean...
 
 perhaps
 
 plot(y~x) # to the screen
 pdf(myplot.pdf)
 plot(y~x) # write the plot to the file
 dev.off() # close the file
 dev.off() # close the graphics window
 
 s/
 
 On 29/07/05, Clark Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  a simple question
 
  how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?
 
  /
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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread TEMPL Matthias
Eventually one way:

With X11() you can open additional graphic devices.

x - rnorm(100)
y - x + runif(100)

plot(x)
X11()
plot(x,y)

Best,
Matthias

 
 a simple question
 
 how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?
 
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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread Chuck Cleland
   Is this on windows?  If so, how about the following:

  windows()
  plot(y~x)
  windows()
  plot(q~x)

   For me, this creates two different plot _windows_ and you could tile 
them to see each side-by-side.  But I'm not sure how that would be 
preferable to having the plots in the same window.  What exactly do you 
mean by different screens?

Clark Allan wrote:
 one could use the par command to plot several plots on 1 graphics
 device.
 
 i would like to do the following:
 
 say plot(y~x) on one screen and then
 
 plot(q~w) on another screen so that one can see both of them together
 but not on the same graphics device.
 
 Sean O'Riordain wrote:
 
Alan,
I'm not sure what you mean...

perhaps

plot(y~x) # to the screen
pdf(myplot.pdf)
plot(y~x) # write the plot to the file
dev.off() # close the file
dev.off() # close the graphics window

s/

On 29/07/05, Clark Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

a simple question

how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?

/
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[R] Console not found

2005-07-29 Thread Manuel Schneider
I played around with memory limits in R 2.1.0 under XP in order to be 
able to work with large matrixes (3600x4100). Among several things I 
tried was to alter console settings and saving them.
Since then, I can't restart Rgui. It says several times 'Console not 
found' with pieces of the text that usually appears in the console and 
then crashes. Rterm.exe works fine.
I've now unistalled R 2.1.0 and installed R 2.1.1 with no effect, still 
console is not found.
Any clues on this?

Best regards

Manuel

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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread Sean O'Riordain
actually X11() also works under windows!

X11()
plot(y~x)
X11()
plot(q~x)


On 29/07/05, Chuck Cleland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is this on windows?  If so, how about the following:
 
   windows()
   plot(y~x)
   windows()
   plot(q~x)
 
For me, this creates two different plot _windows_ and you could tile
 them to see each side-by-side.  But I'm not sure how that would be
 preferable to having the plots in the same window.  What exactly do you
 mean by different screens?
 
 Clark Allan wrote:
  one could use the par command to plot several plots on 1 graphics
  device.
 
  i would like to do the following:
 
  say plot(y~x) on one screen and then
 
  plot(q~w) on another screen so that one can see both of them together
  but not on the same graphics device.
 
  Sean O'Riordain wrote:
 
 Alan,
 I'm not sure what you mean...
 
 perhaps
 
 plot(y~x) # to the screen
 pdf(myplot.pdf)
 plot(y~x) # write the plot to the file
 dev.off() # close the file
 dev.off() # close the graphics window
 
 s/
 
 On 29/07/05, Clark Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 a simple question
 
 how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?
 
 /
 allan
 
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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread Spyridoula Tsonaka
Hi Allan,

in case of many plots in the same window you can try this:

options(graphics.record=TRUE)
plot(x)
plot(x,y)

with PgUp and PgDn you check both in the same window.

I hope this helps.

Roula

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Re: [R] Console not found

2005-07-29 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
Sounds like you have corrupted your Rconsole file.

Fire up rterm and try ?Rconsole and/or read the rw-FAQ to find the file 
that it is use.  It is not removed by uninstalling, and you do need to 
remove it.

(The console settings have nothing whatsoever to do with memory settings.)

Your matrices are not particularly large, BTW, provided you have 1GB or 
more of RAM.  If you have much less, adding some RAM is the most effective 
way of using R.


On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Manuel Schneider wrote:

 I played around with memory limits in R 2.1.0 under XP in order to be
 able to work with large matrixes (3600x4100). Among several things I
 tried was to alter console settings and saving them.
 Since then, I can't restart Rgui. It says several times 'Console not
 found' with pieces of the text that usually appears in the console and
 then crashes. Rterm.exe works fine.
 I've now unistalled R 2.1.0 and installed R 2.1.1 with no effect, still
 console is not found.
 Any clues on this?

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University of Oxford, Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread ronggui
That's interesting,how can I see the help document of graphics.record option? 
I use ?options ,but can not find anything about it.


Hi Allan,

in case of many plots in the same window you can try this:

options(graphics.record=TRUE)
plot(x)
plot(x,y)

with PgUp and PgDn you check both in the same window.

I hope this helps.

Roula

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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: [R] R: graphics devices


a simple question

 how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?

 /
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Re: [R] Binary outcome with non-absorbing outcome state

2005-07-29 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
John Sorkin wrote:
 I am trying to model data in which subjects are followed through time to
 determine if they fall, or do not fall. Some of the subjects fall once,
 some fall several times. Follow-up time varies from subject to subject.
 I know how to model time to the first fall (e.g. Cox Proportional
 Hazards, Kaplan-Meir analyses, etc.) but I am not sure how I can model
 the data if I include the data for those subjects who fall more than
 once. I would appreciate suggestions about a models that I could use,
 how I would quantify the follow-up time, how I account for the imbalance
 in the data (some subjects would contribute one outcome measure, others
 multiple measures), etc.
  
 Many thanks,
 John   

A great reference for this is

@Book{the00mod,
   author =   {Therneau, Terry and Grambsch, Patricia},
   title ={Modeling Survival Data: Extending the Cox Model},
   publisher ={Springer-Verlag},
   year = 2000,
   address =  {New York}
}

Frank

  
 John Sorkin M.D., Ph.D.
 Chief, Biostatistics and Informatics
 Baltimore VA Medical Center GRECC and
 University of Maryland School of Medicine Claude Pepper OAIC
  
 University of Maryland School of Medicine
 Division of Gerontology
 Baltimore VA Medical Center
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 GRECC (BT/18/GR)
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Re: [R] Binary outcome with non-absorbing outcome state

2005-07-29 Thread Kjetil Brinchmann Halvorsen
John Sorkin wrote:

I am trying to model data in which subjects are followed through time to
determine if they fall, or do not fall. Some of the subjects fall once,
some fall several times. Follow-up time varies from subject to subject.
I know how to model time to the first fall (e.g. Cox Proportional
Hazards, Kaplan-Meir analyses, etc.) but I am not sure how I can model
the data if I include the data for those subjects who fall more than
once. I would appreciate suggestions about a models that I could use,
how I would quantify the follow-up time, how I account for the imbalance
in the data (some subjects would contribute one outcome measure, others
multiple measures), etc.
 
Many thanks,
John   
 
John Sorkin M.D., Ph.D.
Chief, Biostatistics and Informatics
Baltimore VA Medical Center GRECC and
University of Maryland School of Medicine Claude Pepper OAIC
 
University of Maryland School of Medicine
Division of Gerontology
Baltimore VA Medical Center
10 North Greene Street
GRECC (BT/18/GR)
Baltimore, MD 21201-1524
 
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help.search(recurrent)
leads to CRAN pakage   survrec.
You couls also have a look at CRAN package eha and at 
Lindsey's package event

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[R] Errbar()-function, cap and logarithmic scaling

2005-07-29 Thread Ute Visser
Hello!

If I use the errbar-function and have a logarithmic scale on the x-axis,
then the little horizontal bars at the end of the errbars (cap)
disappear. What can I do?

Thanks for helping!
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Re: [R] Binary outcome with non-absorbing outcome state

2005-07-29 Thread Frank Funderburk
Singer  Willett (2003) also cover this ground.

Singer, JD  Willett, JB (2003).  Applied longitudinal data analysis:  Modeling 
change and event occurrence. New Yok:  Oxford University Press.

-Original Message-
From: Frank E Harrell Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jul 29, 2005 9:25 AM
To: John Sorkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [R] Binary outcome with non-absorbing outcome state

John Sorkin wrote:
 I am trying to model data in which subjects are followed through time to
 determine if they fall, or do not fall. Some of the subjects fall once,
 some fall several times. Follow-up time varies from subject to subject.
 I know how to model time to the first fall (e.g. Cox Proportional
 Hazards, Kaplan-Meir analyses, etc.) but I am not sure how I can model
 the data if I include the data for those subjects who fall more than
 once. I would appreciate suggestions about a models that I could use,
 how I would quantify the follow-up time, how I account for the imbalance
 in the data (some subjects would contribute one outcome measure, others
 multiple measures), etc.
  
 Many thanks,
 John   

A great reference for this is

@Book{the00mod,
   author =   {Therneau, Terry and Grambsch, Patricia},
   title ={Modeling Survival Data: Extending the Cox Model},
   publisher ={Springer-Verlag},
   year = 2000,
   address =  {New York}
}

Frank

  
 John Sorkin M.D., Ph.D.
 Chief, Biostatistics and Informatics
 Baltimore VA Medical Center GRECC and
 University of Maryland School of Medicine Claude Pepper OAIC
  
 University of Maryland School of Medicine
 Division of Gerontology
 Baltimore VA Medical Center
 10 North Greene Street
 GRECC (BT/18/GR)
 Baltimore, MD 21201-1524
  
 410-605-7119 
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Re: [R] Console not found

2005-07-29 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 7/29/2005 8:01 AM, Manuel Schneider wrote:
 I played around with memory limits in R 2.1.0 under XP in order to be 
 able to work with large matrixes (3600x4100). Among several things I 
 tried was to alter console settings and saving them.
 Since then, I can't restart Rgui. It says several times 'Console not 
 found' with pieces of the text that usually appears in the console and 
 then crashes. Rterm.exe works fine.
 I've now unistalled R 2.1.0 and installed R 2.1.1 with no effect, still 
 console is not found.
 Any clues on this?

You have probably got something bad in your startup files.  See 
appendices B.1 and B.2 of the R-intro manual for all the details.  In 
summary, R looks in Renviron.site, Rprofile.site, .Rprofile, .RData and 
Rconsole for startup information.  (Where it looks is complicated; see 
the manual.) There are command line options to tell it to skip these; in 
particular, --vanilla tells it to skip all of them.

I'd guess your problem is with Rconsole, because that's where the 
console settings are normally saved.  Rename it to something else and 
your problems should go away.

Duncan Murdoch

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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread Don MacQueen
I'd suggest starting with the documentation. See

   ?Devices

and then look at some of the other functions referenced in the See 
Also section of ?Devices.

Basically, you produce plots on two different graphics devices by 
this sequence:
1) open a graphics device
2) produce a plot
3) open another graphics device
4) produce a plot
and depending on which graphic device(s) you are using you may have 
follow with dev.off() to actually get any useful result.

And of course there is always the documentation you can download from 
the R website. Specifically, the one titled
   An Introduction to R
in which I found a section titled
Multiple graphics devices
which starts with
  In advanced use of R it is often useful to have several graphics 
devices in use at the same time.
(this was from the R 2.0.1 version of the manual, to be precise)

-Don

At 1:30 PM +0200 7/29/05, Clark Allan wrote:
a simple question

how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?

/
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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
This is for Windows only, and documented in

?windows
README.rw2011 (or whatever)

It's more usual to switch recording on when you need it, either in the 
windows() call or from a menu.

?options only tells you about the standard options, not those used on 
specific platforms or by packages (and it does say that, in `Options used 
in base R').

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, ronggui wrote:

 That's interesting,how can I see the help document of graphics.record 
 option? I use ?options ,but can not find anything about it.


 Hi Allan,

 in case of many plots in the same window you can try this:

 options(graphics.record=TRUE)
 plot(x)
 plot(x,y)

 with PgUp and PgDn you check both in the same window.

 I hope this helps.

 Roula

 =
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 Doctoral Student
 Biostatistical Centre
 Catholic University of Leuven
 Kapucijnenvoer 35
 B-3000 Leuven
 Belgium
 Tel: +32/16/336899
 Fax: +32/16/337015


 - Original Message -
 From: Clark Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:30 PM
 Subject: [R] R: graphics devices


 a simple question

 how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?

 /
 allan




 2005-07-29

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Re: [R] Binary outcome with non-absorbing outcome state

2005-07-29 Thread Dieter Menne
John Sorkin jsorkin at grecc.umaryland.edu writes:

 
 I am trying to model data in which subjects are followed through time to
 determine if they fall, or do not fall. Some of the subjects fall once,
 some fall several times. Follow-up time varies from subject to subject.

Chapter 4.3 in 

http://www.mayo.edu/hsr/people/therneau/survival.ps

might also help.

Dieter

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[R] Error Downloading Matrix Package

2005-07-29 Thread Doran, Harold
I'm trying to update my Matrix package given the update last night. But
the following error is generated. I've tried restarting R and deleting
my old Matrix package. Can anyone suggest how this might be resolved? 

 install.packages('Matrix')
trying URL
'http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/languages/R/CRAN/bin/windows/contrib/2.1/Mat
rix_0.98-1.zip'
Content type 'application/zip' length 891288 bytes
opened URL
downloaded 870Kb

package 'Matrix' successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
Error: cannot remove prior installation of package 'Matrix'


 traceback()
4: stop(sprintf(gettext(cannot remove prior installation of package
'%s'), 
   curPkg), domain = NA, call. = FALSE)
3: unpackPkg(foundpkgs[okp, 2], foundpkgs[okp, 1], lib, installWithVers)
2: .install.winbinary(pkgs = pkgs, lib = lib, contriburl = contriburl, 
   method = method, available = available, destdir = destdir, 
   installWithVers = installWithVers, dependencies = dependencies)
1: install.packages(Matrix)


This is on a Windows XP machine for R 2.11

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Re: [R] Error Downloading Matrix Package

2005-07-29 Thread Uwe Ligges
Doran, Harold wrote:
 I'm trying to update my Matrix package given the update last night. But
 the following error is generated. I've tried restarting R and deleting
 my old Matrix package. Can anyone suggest how this might be resolved? 

Do you have write permission on the library into which you are trying to 
install package Matrix? In particular, have you really deleted the 
package from the right library?
Do you have the package loaded (R should tell it, hence I do not believe 
this is the problem)? If this is a library used by multiple users, does 
any of those users have the package loaded?

Uwe Ligges


 
install.packages('Matrix')
 
 trying URL
 'http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/languages/R/CRAN/bin/windows/contrib/2.1/Mat
 rix_0.98-1.zip'
 Content type 'application/zip' length 891288 bytes
 opened URL
 downloaded 870Kb
 
 package 'Matrix' successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
 Error: cannot remove prior installation of package 'Matrix'
 
 
 
traceback()
 
 4: stop(sprintf(gettext(cannot remove prior installation of package
 '%s'), 
curPkg), domain = NA, call. = FALSE)
 3: unpackPkg(foundpkgs[okp, 2], foundpkgs[okp, 1], lib, installWithVers)
 2: .install.winbinary(pkgs = pkgs, lib = lib, contriburl = contriburl, 
method = method, available = available, destdir = destdir, 
installWithVers = installWithVers, dependencies = dependencies)
 1: install.packages(Matrix)
 
 
 This is on a Windows XP machine for R 2.11
 
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Re: [R] Error Downloading Matrix Package

2005-07-29 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
Possible answers:

1) You do not have permission to remove the package from its previous 
location.

2) Windows mistakenly thinks that some file in the package is still open.

Try deleting the directory from Windows Explorer.  If 2) you may have to 
log out or reboot Windows before you can do so.

BTW, my Windows setup updated successfully this morning, so this is indeed 
a local problem.


On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Doran, Harold wrote:

 I'm trying to update my Matrix package given the update last night. But
 the following error is generated. I've tried restarting R and deleting
 my old Matrix package. Can anyone suggest how this might be resolved?

 install.packages('Matrix')
 trying URL
 'http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/languages/R/CRAN/bin/windows/contrib/2.1/Mat
 rix_0.98-1.zip'
 Content type 'application/zip' length 891288 bytes
 opened URL
 downloaded 870Kb

 package 'Matrix' successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
 Error: cannot remove prior installation of package 'Matrix'


 traceback()
 4: stop(sprintf(gettext(cannot remove prior installation of package
 '%s'),
   curPkg), domain = NA, call. = FALSE)
 3: unpackPkg(foundpkgs[okp, 2], foundpkgs[okp, 1], lib, installWithVers)
 2: .install.winbinary(pkgs = pkgs, lib = lib, contriburl = contriburl,
   method = method, available = available, destdir = destdir,
   installWithVers = installWithVers, dependencies = dependencies)
 1: install.packages(Matrix)


 This is on a Windows XP machine for R 2.11

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Re: [R] Error Downloading Matrix Package

2005-07-29 Thread Doran, Harold
After restarting Windows Matrix was properly updated. Not quite sure
where the error was, but it is certainly local. 

-Original Message-
From: Prof Brian Ripley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 11:58 AM
To: Doran, Harold
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [R] Error Downloading Matrix Package

Possible answers:

1) You do not have permission to remove the package from its previous
location.

2) Windows mistakenly thinks that some file in the package is still
open.

Try deleting the directory from Windows Explorer.  If 2) you may have to
log out or reboot Windows before you can do so.

BTW, my Windows setup updated successfully this morning, so this is
indeed a local problem.


On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Doran, Harold wrote:

 I'm trying to update my Matrix package given the update last night.
But
 the following error is generated. I've tried restarting R and deleting
 my old Matrix package. Can anyone suggest how this might be resolved?

 install.packages('Matrix')
 trying URL

'http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/languages/R/CRAN/bin/windows/contrib/2.1/Mat
 rix_0.98-1.zip'
 Content type 'application/zip' length 891288 bytes
 opened URL
 downloaded 870Kb

 package 'Matrix' successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
 Error: cannot remove prior installation of package 'Matrix'


 traceback()
 4: stop(sprintf(gettext(cannot remove prior installation of package
 '%s'),
   curPkg), domain = NA, call. = FALSE)
 3: unpackPkg(foundpkgs[okp, 2], foundpkgs[okp, 1], lib,
installWithVers)
 2: .install.winbinary(pkgs = pkgs, lib = lib, contriburl = contriburl,
   method = method, available = available, destdir = destdir,
   installWithVers = installWithVers, dependencies = dependencies)
 1: install.packages(Matrix)


 This is on a Windows XP machine for R 2.11

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Re: [R] replace matrix values with names from a dataframe

2005-07-29 Thread Spencer Graves
  Does the following help:

  set.seed(1)
  Lvls - factor(letters[1:4])
  A - array(sample(4, 6, replace=TRUE), dim=c(2,3))
  A[] - levels(Lvls)[A]
  A
  [,1] [,2] [,3]
[1,] b  c  a
[2,] b  d  d
 

  If not, PLEASE do read the posting guide! 
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question (if the process of working the posting guide does not itself 
provide enlightenment).

  spencer graves

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am looking for a way to replace matrix values with names from a dataframe.
 
 Let me do this by example: I have a dataframe:
 
 
data
 
   city.name
 1munich
 2 paris
 3 tokio
 4london
 5boston
 
 each city name corresponds to only one index number (there is only one
 observation for each city). After doing some matching I end up with a matrix
 that looks something like this:
 
 
X
 
[,1] [,2]
   [1,]24
   [2,]51
   [3,]53
   [4,]   12  217
   [5,]   16   13
 
 Here the numbers in the matrix are the index numbers from my original dataset,
 each row is a matched pair (so e.g. the first row tells me that obs. number 2
 (i.e. Paris) was matched to obs number 4 (i.e. London)).
 
 Now I am looking for a quick way to transform the index numbers back to city
 names, so that at the end I have a matrix that looks something like this:
 
 
X.transformed
 
  [,1] [,2]
   [1,]  paris   london
   [2,] boston   munich
   [3,] bostontokio
   [4,] 12  217
   [5,] 16   13
 
 etc. So instead of the index number, the matrix should contain the names that
 corresponds to it. In my real data, I have many many names and replacing each
 value by hand would take too long. Any help is highly appreciated.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Regards,
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Re: [R] Error Downloading Matrix Package

2005-07-29 Thread Spencer Graves
  I've gotten that error message when trying to update a package I had 
attached.  oops.  (like do-it-yourself lobotomy.)  Then I had to 
install.packages, because much of it got deleted and it wouldn't work 
any more.

  spencer graves

Prof Brian Ripley wrote:

 Possible answers:
 
 1) You do not have permission to remove the package from its previous 
 location.
 
 2) Windows mistakenly thinks that some file in the package is still open.
 
 Try deleting the directory from Windows Explorer.  If 2) you may have to 
 log out or reboot Windows before you can do so.
 
 BTW, my Windows setup updated successfully this morning, so this is indeed 
 a local problem.
 
 
 On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Doran, Harold wrote:
 
 
I'm trying to update my Matrix package given the update last night. But
the following error is generated. I've tried restarting R and deleting
my old Matrix package. Can anyone suggest how this might be resolved?


install.packages('Matrix')

trying URL
'http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/languages/R/CRAN/bin/windows/contrib/2.1/Mat
rix_0.98-1.zip'
Content type 'application/zip' length 891288 bytes
opened URL
downloaded 870Kb

package 'Matrix' successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
Error: cannot remove prior installation of package 'Matrix'



traceback()

4: stop(sprintf(gettext(cannot remove prior installation of package
'%s'),
  curPkg), domain = NA, call. = FALSE)
3: unpackPkg(foundpkgs[okp, 2], foundpkgs[okp, 1], lib, installWithVers)
2: .install.winbinary(pkgs = pkgs, lib = lib, contriburl = contriburl,
  method = method, available = available, destdir = destdir,
  installWithVers = installWithVers, dependencies = dependencies)
1: install.packages(Matrix)


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Re: [R] Binary outcome with non-absorbing outcome state

2005-07-29 Thread Thomas Lumley
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, John Sorkin wrote:

 I am trying to model data in which subjects are followed through time to
 determine if they fall, or do not fall. Some of the subjects fall once,
 some fall several times. Follow-up time varies from subject to subject.
 I know how to model time to the first fall (e.g. Cox Proportional
 Hazards, Kaplan-Meir analyses, etc.) but I am not sure how I can model
 the data if I include the data for those subjects who fall more than
 once.

Various people have already given references that deal with marginal Cox 
models. I'd second Frank Harrell's recommendation of Therneau  Grambsch.
  Computationally this is very straightforward: each person has multiple 
records corresponding to the times between events, and in a Cox model you 
add
+cluster(id)
to the model formula to get the right standard errors, where id is unique 
identifier for individuals.

The difficult part is deciding which person-time to compare: eg should 
someone who has recently had a second event at time 500 be compared to 
other people who have recently had a second event, other people who have 
recently had any sort of event, other people at time 500, etc.

Another possibility is frailty models, the analogue of generalized linear 
mixed models.  As with GLMMs, even fitting these is tricky and statistical 
theory isn't that well-developed. The survival package does have an 
implementation, though.


-thomas

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Re: [R] Binary outcome with non-absorbing outcome state

2005-07-29 Thread Thomas Lumley
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Dieter Menne wrote:

 John Sorkin jsorkin at grecc.umaryland.edu writes:


 I am trying to model data in which subjects are followed through time to
 determine if they fall, or do not fall. Some of the subjects fall once,
 some fall several times. Follow-up time varies from subject to subject.

 Chapter 4.3 in

 http://www.mayo.edu/hsr/people/therneau/survival.ps

 might also help.


That document is included in the survival package, but AFAICS it 
doesn't talk about multiple events, just about time-varying covariates.

-thomas

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Re: [R] Error Downloading Matrix Package

2005-07-29 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
You should have got a different error message, namely

package some_pkg is in use and will not be installed

and that is what I got when I tried it.


On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Spencer Graves wrote:

 I've gotten that error message when trying to update a package I 
 had attached.  oops.  (like do-it-yourself lobotomy.)  Then I had to 
 install.packages, because much of it got deleted and it wouldn't work any 
 more.
 spencer graves

 Prof Brian Ripley wrote:

 Possible answers:
 
 1) You do not have permission to remove the package from its previous 
 location.
 
 2) Windows mistakenly thinks that some file in the package is still open.
 
 Try deleting the directory from Windows Explorer.  If 2) you may have to 
 log out or reboot Windows before you can do so.
 
 BTW, my Windows setup updated successfully this morning, so this is indeed 
 a local problem.
 
 
 On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Doran, Harold wrote:
 
 
 I'm trying to update my Matrix package given the update last night. But
 the following error is generated. I've tried restarting R and deleting
 my old Matrix package. Can anyone suggest how this might be resolved?
 
 
 install.packages('Matrix')
 
 trying URL
 'http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/languages/R/CRAN/bin/windows/contrib/2.1/Mat
 rix_0.98-1.zip'
 Content type 'application/zip' length 891288 bytes
 opened URL
 downloaded 870Kb
 
 package 'Matrix' successfully unpacked and MD5 sums checked
 Error: cannot remove prior installation of package 'Matrix'
 
 
 
 traceback()
 
 4: stop(sprintf(gettext(cannot remove prior installation of package
 '%s'),
  curPkg), domain = NA, call. = FALSE)
 3: unpackPkg(foundpkgs[okp, 2], foundpkgs[okp, 1], lib, installWithVers)
 2: .install.winbinary(pkgs = pkgs, lib = lib, contriburl = contriburl,
  method = method, available = available, destdir = destdir,
  installWithVers = installWithVers, dependencies = dependencies)
 1: install.packages(Matrix)
 
 
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[R] about usage of weights in nnet

2005-07-29 Thread Baoqiang Cao
Hi There,
I got some results from using nnet on a two-class problem, and I'd like to 
hear your comments to understand well about the algorithm. In the training set, 
the ratio of class 1 to class 2 is about 23:77. I did a 5-fold cross 
validation. The networks were trained twice, one with 'weights=1', one with 
'weights=ifelse(species==class1, 77/33, 1)'(pointed out by Prof. Brian 
Ripley).All other settings are same. The average Matthew Correlation Coeffience 
for the one with weights=1 is 0.80, significantly larger than that of the 
other, 0.74. So, it seems weighting the unbalanced samples does not help 
performance on evaluations, which is against my initial thoughts. My question 
would be, does that mean the training data is not unbalanced enough? then how 
unbalanced is enough? Or it was totally just a signal event? Or it was just 
some suboptimal results? Any references regarding this issue in particular? 
Thanks!

Best regards, 
Baoqiang Cao

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Re: [R] R: graphics devices

2005-07-29 Thread Berton Gunter
I put the options() call into my Rprofile.site code (there are other ways to
do this, too) so that it's automatic at startup. ?Startup documents other
ways you can do this. I've never run into problems having recording always
on, but maybe there are some I'm unaware of.

-- Bert Gunter
Genentech Non-Clinical Statistics
South San Francisco, CA
 
The business of the statistician is to catalyze the scientific learning
process.  - George E. P. Box
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prof 
 Brian Ripley
 Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:09 AM
 To: ronggui
 Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Subject: Re: [R] R: graphics devices
 
 This is for Windows only, and documented in
 
 ?windows
 README.rw2011 (or whatever)
 
 It's more usual to switch recording on when you need it, 
 either in the 
 windows() call or from a menu.
 
 ?options only tells you about the standard options, not those used on 
 specific platforms or by packages (and it does say that, in 
 `Options used 
 in base R').
 
 On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, ronggui wrote:
 
  That's interesting,how can I see the help document of 
 graphics.record 
  option? I use ?options ,but can not find anything about it.
 
 
  Hi Allan,
 
  in case of many plots in the same window you can try this:
 
  options(graphics.record=TRUE)
  plot(x)
  plot(x,y)
 
  with PgUp and PgDn you check both in the same window.
 
  I hope this helps.
 
  Roula
 
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  Catholic University of Leuven
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  Belgium
  Tel: +32/16/336899
  Fax: +32/16/337015
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Clark Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:30 PM
  Subject: [R] R: graphics devices
 
 
  a simple question
 
  how does one produce plots on two different graphics devices?
 
  /
  allan
 
 
 
 
  2005-07-29
 
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[R] Way to make R idle for some time and try something again later

2005-07-29 Thread Tae-Hoon Chung
Hi, All;

I have a question. In R, what is the best way to make R idle for a while and
try something again later? For example, suppose there is an R job which
accesses a file that may be shared with other active jobs. So when the file
is being accessed by other job, your job will not be able to access the file
and your job will crash because of that. To avoid this, you want your job to
try to access the file repeatedly with some time interval, say every 10
seconds or something like that. Which is the best way to do this in R?

Thanks in advance,

Tae-Hoon Chung

Post-Doctoral Researcher
Translational Genomics Research Institute (TGen)
445 N. 5th Street (Suite 530)
Phoenix, AZ 85004
1-602-343-8724 (Direct)
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Re: [R] Way to make R idle for some time and try something again later

2005-07-29 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 7/29/2005 3:13 PM, Tae-Hoon Chung wrote:
 Hi, All;
 
 I have a question. In R, what is the best way to make R idle for a while and
 try something again later? For example, suppose there is an R job which
 accesses a file that may be shared with other active jobs. So when the file
 is being accessed by other job, your job will not be able to access the file
 and your job will crash because of that. To avoid this, you want your job to
 try to access the file repeatedly with some time interval, say every 10
 seconds or something like that. Which is the best way to do this in R?

Sys.sleep(10) should give you a 10 second pause with very little impact 
on the system.

Duncan Murdoch

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Re: [R] Way to make R idle for some time and try something again later

2005-07-29 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
Which operating system are you using ?

See help(Sys.sleep), which might be what you want but there may be other
ways in determining if a file is being accessed by another program.

Regards, Adai



On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 12:13 -0700, Tae-Hoon Chung wrote:
 Hi, All;
 
 I have a question. In R, what is the best way to make R idle for a while and
 try something again later? For example, suppose there is an R job which
 accesses a file that may be shared with other active jobs. So when the file
 is being accessed by other job, your job will not be able to access the file
 and your job will crash because of that. To avoid this, you want your job to
 try to access the file repeatedly with some time interval, say every 10
 seconds or something like that. Which is the best way to do this in R?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Tae-Hoon Chung
 
 Post-Doctoral Researcher
 Translational Genomics Research Institute (TGen)
 445 N. 5th Street (Suite 530)
 Phoenix, AZ 85004
 1-602-343-8724 (Direct)
 1-480-323-9820 (Mobile)
 1-602-343-8840 (Fax)
 
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Re: [R] Way to make R idle for some time and try something again later

2005-07-29 Thread Berton Gunter
Dear Tae-Hoon:

1. RSiteSearch('wait') will tell you that Sys.sleep() is what you want.
Although this list is terrific, R's built-in help/search tools should always
be tried first (they're faster when you hit the right search term).

2. The other part of the puzzle is ?try

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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:13 PM
 To: RHelp
 Subject: [R] Way to make R idle for some time and try 
 something again later
 
 Hi, All;
 
 I have a question. In R, what is the best way to make R idle 
 for a while and
 try something again later? For example, suppose there is an R 
 job which
 accesses a file that may be shared with other active jobs. So 
 when the file
 is being accessed by other job, your job will not be able to 
 access the file
 and your job will crash because of that. To avoid this, you 
 want your job to
 try to access the file repeatedly with some time interval, 
 say every 10
 seconds or something like that. Which is the best way to do this in R?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Tae-Hoon Chung
 
 Post-Doctoral Researcher
 Translational Genomics Research Institute (TGen)
 445 N. 5th Street (Suite 530)
 Phoenix, AZ 85004
 1-602-343-8724 (Direct)
 1-480-323-9820 (Mobile)
 1-602-343-8840 (Fax)
 
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Re: [R] Way to make R idle for some time and try something again later

2005-07-29 Thread Don MacQueen
I done something very similar -- have R watch a file, and whenever 
new data is added to the file, read the new data from the file. In my 
case, new data was arriving once per minute, so I needed to have R 
wait about a minute before looking for new data.

On my unix-based system, I found that if I usd
   Sys.sleep( N )
then cpu usage immediately went up drastically. If the the system is 
otherwise fairly idle, cpu usage goes up to nearly 100%. A cpu 
monitor shows that R is using the cpu cycles.

If I use instead
  system('sleep N')
cpu usage does not go up.

(where N is the number of seconds to sleep)

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arch powerpc 
os   darwin7.9.0 
system   powerpc, darwin7.9.0
status   
major2   
minor1.1 
year 2005
month06  
day  20  
language R   


At 12:13 PM -0700 7/29/05, Tae-Hoon Chung wrote:
Hi, All;

I have a question. In R, what is the best way to make R idle for a while and
try something again later? For example, suppose there is an R job which
accesses a file that may be shared with other active jobs. So when the file
is being accessed by other job, your job will not be able to access the file
and your job will crash because of that. To avoid this, you want your job to
try to access the file repeatedly with some time interval, say every 10
seconds or something like that. Which is the best way to do this in R?

Thanks in advance,

Tae-Hoon Chung

Post-Doctoral Researcher
Translational Genomics Research Institute (TGen)
445 N. 5th Street (Suite 530)
Phoenix, AZ 85004
1-602-343-8724 (Direct)
1-480-323-9820 (Mobile)
1-602-343-8840 (Fax)

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Re: [R] Way to make R idle for some time and try something again later

2005-07-29 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Don MacQueen wrote:
 I done something very similar -- have R watch a file, and whenever 
 new data is added to the file, read the new data from the file. In my 
 case, new data was arriving once per minute, so I needed to have R 
 wait about a minute before looking for new data.
 
 On my unix-based system, I found that if I usd
Sys.sleep( N )
 then cpu usage immediately went up drastically. If the the system is 
 otherwise fairly idle, cpu usage goes up to nearly 100%. A cpu 
 monitor shows that R is using the cpu cycles.

This is system-specific.  In Windows, CPU usage measures in at 0% while 
in a Sys.sleep loop.  (It's not really zero, because R checks for events 
to update the display, but it's very low).

Duncan Murdoch

 
 If I use instead
   system('sleep N')
 cpu usage does not go up.
 
 (where N is the number of seconds to sleep)
 
 
 version
 
   _   
 platform powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0
 arch powerpc 
 os   darwin7.9.0 
 system   powerpc, darwin7.9.0
 status   
 major2   
 minor1.1 
 year 2005
 month06  
 day  20  
 language R   
 
 
 At 12:13 PM -0700 7/29/05, Tae-Hoon Chung wrote:
 
Hi, All;

I have a question. In R, what is the best way to make R idle for a while and
try something again later? For example, suppose there is an R job which
accesses a file that may be shared with other active jobs. So when the file
is being accessed by other job, your job will not be able to access the file
and your job will crash because of that. To avoid this, you want your job to
try to access the file repeatedly with some time interval, say every 10
seconds or something like that. Which is the best way to do this in R?

Thanks in advance,

Tae-Hoon Chung

Post-Doctoral Researcher
Translational Genomics Research Institute (TGen)
445 N. 5th Street (Suite 530)
Phoenix, AZ 85004
1-602-343-8724 (Direct)
1-480-323-9820 (Mobile)
1-602-343-8840 (Fax)

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Re: [R] Don't understand plotmath behaviour (bug?)

2005-07-29 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Numbers, not in characters strings do not come out bold:

plot(1:5, type = n)
text(x=3,y=3, quote(bold(paste(a==a ~~ 0.5 == 0.5


On 7/25/05, Wladimir Eremeev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Thomas,
 
 TL In case 1 you have the string 0.5, in case 2 you have the number 0.5.
 TLtext(x=2,y=2, quote(bold(0.5==0.5)))
 TL shows what is happening.
 
 I know about the different types in the cases.
 That is, 'bold' affects only on text strings.
 Am I right?
 
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 Best regards,
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Re: [R] Way to make R idle for some time and try something again later

2005-07-29 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
This depends on what else is going on.  My guess is that you are running 
the Aqua GUI, and it is servicing the GUI which is taking the time, not R 
itself.

On all of Linux, Solaris and Windows (RGui or Rterm) Sys.sleep() does use 
very close to zero resources at the beginning of a session, but things may 
be different if e.g. tcltk widgets are in use.

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Don MacQueen wrote:

 I done something very similar -- have R watch a file, and whenever
 new data is added to the file, read the new data from the file. In my
 case, new data was arriving once per minute, so I needed to have R
 wait about a minute before looking for new data.

 On my unix-based system, I found that if I usd

I don't think your system IS `unix-based' (Unix is a trademark, and MacOS 
X is based on a rather different kernel).  It is quite possible that it is 
behaving differently from the POSIX description of Unix system calls on 
which R is based for Unix-alikes.

   Sys.sleep( N )
 then cpu usage immediately went up drastically. If the the system is
 otherwise fairly idle, cpu usage goes up to nearly 100%. A cpu
 monitor shows that R is using the cpu cycles.

 If I use instead
  system('sleep N')
 cpu usage does not go up.

Does that freeze the GUI?  It certainly freezes tcltk widgets on Unix.

 (where N is the number of seconds to sleep)

  version
  _
 platform powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0
 arch powerpc
 os   darwin7.9.0
 system   powerpc, darwin7.9.0
 status
 major2
 minor1.1
 year 2005
 month06
 day  20
 language R


 At 12:13 PM -0700 7/29/05, Tae-Hoon Chung wrote:
 Hi, All;

 I have a question. In R, what is the best way to make R idle for a while and
 try something again later? For example, suppose there is an R job which
 accesses a file that may be shared with other active jobs. So when the file
 is being accessed by other job, your job will not be able to access the file
 and your job will crash because of that. To avoid this, you want your job to
 try to access the file repeatedly with some time interval, say every 10
 seconds or something like that. Which is the best way to do this in R?


-- 
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Professor of Applied Statistics,  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
University of Oxford, Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
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