[R] BoxPlots, 1 Way ANOVA and Non-Statisticians.

2004-03-30 Thread Carlos J. Gil Bellosta
Dear R-Helpers,

I am working in a project and I have a number of observations belonging 
to several classes. Using a 1 Way ANOVA, I have rejected the equality of 
means hypothesis with a very small p-value. However, the people I have 
to present my results to are not statisticians and they are not very 
likely to be much impressed by a 1.32434e-12 like number/thing.

Therefore I have decided to make to boxplots, one for the actual data 
and the second one for simulated data where the equality of the means 
holds so that the difference in the distributions can be visually 
appreciated.

The problem is that, for the simulated values, being more regular, the 
range of variation is smaller and, therefore, the heigth of the window 
where their boxplot is drawn is also smaller. As a result, the scales of 
the two boxplots are not the same and part of the appeal of the visual 
approach is lost in the way.

My question is, is there a way to make two different boxplots within a 
"common window"? (Or rather, a common size window or, more concretely, 
so that it spans over the same range on the vertical axis).

Sincerely,

Carlos J. Gil Bellosta
Sigma Consultores Estadi'sticos
http://www.consultoresestadisticos.com
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Re: [R] BoxPlots, 1 Way ANOVA and Non-Statisticians.

2004-03-30 Thread Chuck Cleland
Carlos:
  You could just give the same values for the ylim argument in each 
boxplot

 par(mfrow=c(1,2), las=1)
 boxplot(rnorm(10), rnorm(10), rnorm(10), ylim=c(-3,3))
 boxplot(rnorm(10, 0.5, 1), rnorm(10, -.5, 1), rnorm(10), ylim=c(-3,3))
Carlos J. Gil Bellosta wrote:
I am working in a project and I have a number of observations belonging 
to several classes. Using a 1 Way ANOVA, I have rejected the equality of 
means hypothesis with a very small p-value. However, the people I have 
to present my results to are not statisticians and they are not very 
likely to be much impressed by a 1.32434e-12 like number/thing.

Therefore I have decided to make to boxplots, one for the actual data 
and the second one for simulated data where the equality of the means 
holds so that the difference in the distributions can be visually 
appreciated.

The problem is that, for the simulated values, being more regular, the 
range of variation is smaller and, therefore, the heigth of the window 
where their boxplot is drawn is also smaller. As a result, the scales of 
the two boxplots are not the same and part of the appeal of the visual 
approach is lost in the way.

My question is, is there a way to make two different boxplots within a 
"common window"? (Or rather, a common size window or, more concretely, 
so that it spans over the same range on the vertical axis).
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NDRI, Inc.
71 West 23rd Street, 8th floor
New York, NY 10010
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RE: [R] BoxPlots, 1 Way ANOVA and Non-Statisticians.

2004-03-30 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
Also check out bplot() function in the library fields.

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Cleland
> Sent: 30 March 2004 20:07
> To: Carlos J. Gil Bellosta
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> Subject: Re: [R] BoxPlots, 1 Way ANOVA and Non-Statisticians.
>
>
> Carlos:
>You could just give the same values for the ylim argument in each
> boxplot
>
>   par(mfrow=c(1,2), las=1)
>   boxplot(rnorm(10), rnorm(10), rnorm(10), ylim=c(-3,3))
>   boxplot(rnorm(10, 0.5, 1), rnorm(10, -.5, 1), rnorm(10), ylim=c(-3,3))
>
> Carlos J. Gil Bellosta wrote:
> > I am working in a project and I have a number of observations belonging
> > to several classes. Using a 1 Way ANOVA, I have rejected the
> equality of
> > means hypothesis with a very small p-value. However, the people I have
> > to present my results to are not statisticians and they are not very
> > likely to be much impressed by a 1.32434e-12 like number/thing.
> >
> > Therefore I have decided to make to boxplots, one for the actual data
> > and the second one for simulated data where the equality of the means
> > holds so that the difference in the distributions can be visually
> > appreciated.
> >
> > The problem is that, for the simulated values, being more regular, the
> > range of variation is smaller and, therefore, the heigth of the window
> > where their boxplot is drawn is also smaller. As a result, the
> scales of
> > the two boxplots are not the same and part of the appeal of the visual
> > approach is lost in the way.
> >
> > My question is, is there a way to make two different boxplots within a
> > "common window"? (Or rather, a common size window or, more concretely,
> > so that it spans over the same range on the vertical axis).
>
> --
> Chuck Cleland, Ph.D.
> NDRI, Inc.
> 71 West 23rd Street, 8th floor
> New York, NY 10010
> tel: (212) 845-4495 (Tu, Th)
> tel: (732) 452-1424 (M, W, F)
> fax: (917) 438-0894
>
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