[R] nlme leading minor error

2005-06-22 Thread Petr Pikal
Dear all

I am struggling with nlme and error message. Even going through 
Pinheiro, Bates nlme book did not gave me a clue how to avoid 
this.

fit - nlme(ce ~ fi1 / ((1+exp(fi2-fi3*tepl))^(1/fi4)), data = 
temp1na.gr,
start = c(fi1=30, fi2=-100, fi3=-.05, fi4=40), 
fixed = fi1+fi2+fi3+fi4~1, 
random = pdDiag(fi2+fi4~1),
groups = ~spol.f)

gives

Error in chol((value + t(value))/2) : the leading minor of order 1 is 
not positive definite

Is this error due to lack of experimental points?
Here you have one typical part of my data. It is for level spol.f = 
3/11.

teplce
800 28.87
800 29.35
825 29
850 28.73
875 26.83
900 24.07

I have 1-5 points for each level (2 levels with 5 points, 1 level with 
4 points, several levels with 2 and 3 points and few with only one 
point.

Fitting this model to each level separately led to several sets of 
coeficients fi1-fi4 and the separate fits were quite OK.

Please give me a hint what can be the cause for this error message 
and how I shall organize my data to avoid this. (Lack of 
experimental points is also an answer as I can do some subsequent 
measurement.

R 2.1.0, W 2000, nlme package

Best regards



Petr Pikal
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Re: [R] nlme leading minor error

2005-06-22 Thread Douglas Bates
On 6/22/05, Petr Pikal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all
 
 I am struggling with nlme and error message. Even going through
 Pinheiro, Bates nlme book did not gave me a clue how to avoid
 this.
 
 fit - nlme(ce ~ fi1 / ((1+exp(fi2-fi3*tepl))^(1/fi4)), data =
 temp1na.gr,
 start = c(fi1=30, fi2=-100, fi3=-.05, fi4=40),
 fixed = fi1+fi2+fi3+fi4~1,
 random = pdDiag(fi2+fi4~1),
 groups = ~spol.f)
 
 gives
 
 Error in chol((value + t(value))/2) : the leading minor of order 1 is
 not positive definite
 
 Is this error due to lack of experimental points?
 Here you have one typical part of my data. It is for level spol.f =
 3/11.
 
 teplce
 800 28.87
 800 29.35
 825 29
 850 28.73
 875 26.83
 900 24.07
 
 I have 1-5 points for each level (2 levels with 5 points, 1 level with
 4 points, several levels with 2 and 3 points and few with only one
 point.
 
 Fitting this model to each level separately led to several sets of
 coeficients fi1-fi4 and the separate fits were quite OK.
 
 Please give me a hint what can be the cause for this error message
 and how I shall organize my data to avoid this. (Lack of
 experimental points is also an answer as I can do some subsequent
 measurement.

The first thing to do is to plot the data for each level of spol.f and
see if it is reasonable that you would be able to estimate four
parameters from such a curve.

Then try setting verbose = TRUE, control = list(msVerbose = TRUE) in
your call to nlme to see how the parameters are being changed during
the iterations.

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