RE: [R] Resampling Stats software

2003-12-18 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Brandon Vaughn wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who wrote in with suggestions.  I will check out the
 books mentioned.
 
 The book I mentioned Resampling: The New Statistics is actually available
 free online at:
 
 http://www.resample.com/content/text/index.shtml
 
 It seems pretty good as an introduction.  But then again, I am new at this
 concept.

An introduction to what?  (It seems to confuse resampling and
simulation-based inference.)

 Does anyone know right off hand how to do simple simulation with R?  Like
 for instance, in the book mentioned above, there is an example of figuring
 out the probability that a company with 20 trucks with have 4 or more fail
 on a given day (the probability that any given truck fails is .10).  So the
 way they do it is to simulate uniform numbers from 1 to 10, and let the
 number 1 represent a defective truck.  So here is the setup in the program
 Resampling Stat:
 
   REPEAT 400   [repeat simulation 400 times]
   GENERATE 20 1,10 a  [generate 20 numbers between 1 and 10; store
 in vector a]
   COUNT a = 1 b   [count the number of 1's and store in vector b]
   SCORE b z   [keep track of each trial in vector z]
   END [repeat process]
   COUNT z  3 k   [count the number of times trials more than 3 and
 store]
   DIVIDE k 400 kk [convert to probability and store]
   PRINT kk[print result]
 
 This seems like a simple problem, and seemingly simple process in Resampling
 Stats.  Any idea on how to get started doing this in R?

However, the number of failures is a binomial variate, so it is much 
simpler in R, for example

cnts - rbinom(400, 20, 0.1)
mean(cnts = 4)

However, doing 1 million runs was almost instantaneous on my machine.

And the expected answer is pbinom(3, 20, 0.1, lower=FALSE)

As a matter of terminology, this is not resampling as usually defined, so 
I do wonder exactly what it is you are after.  For resampling in the usual 
sense, I would echo Jason's recommendation of Davison and Hinkley's CUP 
book.

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RE: [R] Resampling Stats software

2003-12-18 Thread Liaw, Andy
 From: Prof Brian Ripley

[snip]

 As a matter of terminology, this is not resampling as usually 
 defined, so 
 I do wonder exactly what it is you are after.  For resampling 
 in the usual 
 sense, I would echo Jason's recommendation of Davison and 
 Hinkley's CUP book.

Or perhaps at a gentler level, Efron  Tibshirani's Introduction to the
Bootstrap (Chapman  Hall/CRC)...
 
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 Brian D. Ripley,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Professor of Applied Statistics,  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
 University of Oxford, Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
 Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax:  +44 1865 272595


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Re: [R] Resampling Stats software - link to book mentioned

2003-12-17 Thread Michael Grant

--- Andrew Criswell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 My search on Amazon fails to locate the book Brandon
 mentions, 
 Resampling: The New Statistics. Is there more
 information on Author, 
 ISBN, etc.?

FYI, try 

http://www.resample.com/content/text/index.shtml

or 

the main site at 

http://www.resample.com

Regards,
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RE: [R] Resampling Stats software

2003-12-17 Thread Brandon Vaughn
Thanks to everyone who wrote in with suggestions.  I will check out the
books mentioned.

The book I mentioned Resampling: The New Statistics is actually available
free online at:

http://www.resample.com/content/text/index.shtml

It seems pretty good as an introduction.  But then again, I am new at this
concept.

Does anyone know right off hand how to do simple simulation with R?  Like
for instance, in the book mentioned above, there is an example of figuring
out the probability that a company with 20 trucks with have 4 or more fail
on a given day (the probability that any given truck fails is .10).  So the
way they do it is to simulate uniform numbers from 1 to 10, and let the
number 1 represent a defective truck.  So here is the setup in the program
Resampling Stat:

REPEAT 400   [repeat simulation 400 times]
GENERATE 20 1,10 a  [generate 20 numbers between 1 and 10; store
in vector a]
COUNT a = 1 b   [count the number of 1's and store in vector b]
SCORE b z   [keep track of each trial in vector z]
END [repeat process]
COUNT z  3 k   [count the number of times trials more than 3 and
store]
DIVIDE k 400 kk [convert to probability and store]
PRINT kk[print result]

This seems like a simple problem, and seemingly simple process in Resampling
Stats.  Any idea on how to get started doing this in R?

Thanks everyone again for your advice and help!
Brandon 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:13 PM
To: Brandon Vaughn
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [R] Resampling Stats software

Brandon Vaughn wrote:
...
 I am new to R (I have most of my experience in SAS and SPSS).  I was 
 wondering if anyone has used both Resampling Stats and R, and could 
 comment on strengths/relationships.

There are a few add-on packages for resampling with R.  boot is the one
I've used, and can strongly recommend.

 Also, I have no clue on how to do the various examples from the book 
 Resampling: The New Statistics in R.  Can anyone give me some 
 possible starting points?  Or websites/books?

I've never heard of the book you cite, but these two are good.  The first is
a pure bootstrap book, with examples in S-PLUS (the R library is rather
close).  The second is an applied stats book, which includes a section on
resampling methods.  All its examples are in S-PLUS, with notes about where
R differs (very little).

@Book{DavidsonHinkley1997,
author = {A. C. Davidson and D. V. Hinkley},
   title =   {Bootstrap Methods and their Application},
   publisher =   {Cambridge University Press},
   year ={1997},
}

@book{VenablesRipley2002,
   author =  Venables, W.R. and Ripley, B.D.,
   title =   Modern Applied Statistics with S,
   edition = Fourth,
   publisher =   {Springer-Verlag},
   address = {New York},
   year =2002,
}

Cheers

Jason
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Re: [R] Resampling Stats software

2003-12-16 Thread Uwe Ligges
Brandon Vaughn wrote:

Hi,
 
I am new to R (I have most of my experience in SAS and SPSS).  I was
wondering if anyone has used both Resampling Stats and R, and could comment
on strengths/relationships.
Hmmm. 8 years ago I had to use Resampling Stats. I don't know what 
Resampling Stats is today, but recollecting my 8 year old experiences 
with todays R (which obviously is unfair!): Use R! Yyou can easily do 
everything in R what Resampling Stats was capable of.

See also Jason Turner's message.

Uwe Ligges

 Also, I have no clue on how to do the various
examples from the book Resampling: The New Statistics in R.  Can anyone
give me some possible starting points?  Or websites/books?
Thanks,
Brandon
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Re: [R] Resampling Stats software

2003-12-16 Thread Andrew Criswell
A very good introductory text is Data Analysis by Resampling: Concepts 
and Applications by Clifford Lunneborg.

My search on Amazon fails to locate the book Brandon mentions, 
Resampling: The New Statistics. Is there more information on Author, 
ISBN, etc.?

You may wish to look at appendix 8, Bootstrapping Regression Models, 
to John Fox's An R and S-Plus Companion to Applied Regression.  It can 
be found at 
http://socserv.socsci.mcmaster.ca/jfox/Books/Companion/scripts.html

ANDREW

Brandon Vaughn wrote:

Hi,

I am new to R (I have most of my experience in SAS and SPSS).  I was
wondering if anyone has used both Resampling Stats and R, and could comment
on strengths/relationships.  Also, I have no clue on how to do the various
examples from the book Resampling: The New Statistics in R.  Can anyone
give me some possible starting points?  Or websites/books?
Thanks,
Brandon
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Re: [R] Resampling Stats software

2003-12-15 Thread Jason Turner
Brandon Vaughn wrote:
...
I am new to R (I have most of my experience in SAS and SPSS).  I was
wondering if anyone has used both Resampling Stats and R, and could comment
on strengths/relationships.  
There are a few add-on packages for resampling with R.  boot is the 
one I've used, and can strongly recommend.

Also, I have no clue on how to do the various
examples from the book Resampling: The New Statistics in R.  Can anyone
give me some possible starting points?  Or websites/books?
I've never heard of the book you cite, but these two are good.  The 
first is a pure bootstrap book, with examples in S-PLUS (the R library 
is rather close).  The second is an applied stats book, which includes a 
section on resampling methods.  All its examples are in S-PLUS, with 
notes about where R differs (very little).

@Book{DavidsonHinkley1997,
author = {A. C. Davidson and D. V. Hinkley},
  title ={Bootstrap Methods and their Application},
  publisher ={Cambridge University Press},
  year = {1997},
}
@book{VenablesRipley2002,
  author =   Venables, W.R. and Ripley, B.D.,
  title =Modern Applied Statistics with S,
  edition =  Fourth,
  publisher ={Springer-Verlag},
  address =  {New York},
  year = 2002,
}
Cheers

Jason
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