Re: [R-sig-eco] Sites names with spaces in ordiplot

2011-04-01 Thread Manuel Spínola
Gavin and Jari, thank you very much.

Actually, I am interested in both, sites and species.  I have 3000 
species (tropical forest trees) and I am trying to read the txt file 
with read.table.  I tried also read.delim, but I don't know how to bring 
the sites names in the plot.  I guess now I have the answer, using text().

What happened if I have a txt file like this:

siteAbarema adenophoraAbarema macradenia
Abatia parvifloraAbelmoschus esculentusAbelmoschus moschatus
General Viejo   1   
11   
11
Rio Pacuar0 
   00   
 00
Las Brisas  
0  0 
0  1 
1
San Pedro 0  
0 0  
1 1
Rio Convento   0  0 
 0  
1 1

What will be the way to keep blank spaces for sites and species.  I know 
that species will be unnecessary in this case  because I have too many 
and I cannot show them in the plot, but just to learn for another time.

Best,

Manuel


On 01/04/2011 03:16 a.m., Gavin Simpson wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 07:01 +0300, Jari Oksanen wrote:
 On 31/03/11 23:18 PM, Manuel Spínolamspinol...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Dear list members,

 I would like to include sites names with blank spaces in an ordiplot for
 an nmds (in vegan).
 How I do that?

 Manuel,

 Like Gav wrote, R indeed is a bit patronizing and doesn't let you to use
 dimension names with blank.
 It does. I made the species labels in my examples *not* have spaces in
 them because Manuel said only his site names had spaces. The following
 works just fine:

 require(vegan)
 set.seed(1)
 dat- data.frame(matrix(runif(100), ncol = 10))
 names(dat)- paste(Spp, 1:10)
 rownames(dat)- paste(Site, 1:10)
 mod- metaMDS(dat)
 plot(mod, type = text)

   R only wants to protect you from trouble.
 Indeed - it is a pain to look at `Spp 1` now, for example, as everything
 needs to be quoted:

 R  dat$`Spp 1`
   [1] 0.26550866 0.37212390 0.57285336 0.90820779 0.20168193 0.89838968
   [7] 0.94467527 0.66079779 0.62911404 0.06178627

 One issue that might catch people out is that R doesn't let you read
 data in with spaces in the colnames (unless read.table()'s check.names =
 FALSE is set) - spaces get replaced with `.`.

 However, the only constraint on rownames is that they be non-missing and
 non-duplicated. Both sets of names need to be syntactically valid but
 spaces are fine.

 Hence one can always change the row/colnames to suit just before
 plotting so one doesn't need to resort to extra plotting calls to
 achieve the desired result. That said, one usually will need extra calls
 to ordiplot functions as ordinations are complex beasts to plot so
 drawing the points with custom text labels is no real hardship either.

 Either approach works.

 G

 However, vegan lets you use any names in text() function for metaMDS: just
 list those names as a vector of quoted text in 'labels' argument to
 text.metaMDS(). The names given in 'labels' can have blanks, or even be al
 blanks as long as they are quoted. The length of the 'labels' must match the
 number of items plotted.

 All vegan text() functions for ordination plots should have the 'labels'
 argument. I cannot guarantee that all of them have, but you can always
 report missing cases to us. The text() for metaMDS() certainly has 'labels'
 as you can see if you read the help page ?metaMDS (which may not be a bad
 idea).

 Cheers, Jari Oksanen

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Re: [R-sig-eco] Sites names with spaces in ordiplot

2011-04-01 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 05:14 -0600, Manuel Spínola wrote:
 Gavin and Jari, thank you very much.
 
 Actually, I am interested in both, sites and species.  I have 3000 
 species (tropical forest trees) and I am trying to read the txt file 
 with read.table.  I tried also read.delim, but I don't know how to
 bring 
 the sites names in the plot.  I guess now I have the answer, using
 text().

I mentioned this in my last email - the one you are replying to. The
issue is that R will check the species (variable) names on input and
remove spaces, replacing them with a `.`. But you *can* control whether
it does this or not using check.names = FALSE.

For example. Here is a simple CSV file:

,Spp 1,Spp 2,Spp 3
Site 1,1,4,7
Site 2,2,5,8
Site 3,3,6,9

with spaces in both the species and site names.

We read it in via:

dat - read.csv(spp.csv, row.names = 1, check.names = FALSE)
dat

And it gives us:

   Spp 1 Spp 2 Spp 3
Site 1 1 4 7
Site 2 2 5 8
Site 3 3 6 9

So it *has* preserved the spaces in the species names and it hasn't
touched the row names.

We can ordinate this with out any problems:

require(vegan)
mod - metaMDS(dat)
plot(mod, type = text)

Ok, that is a pretty pointless plot but it works.

Does that help?

G

 What happened if I have a txt file like this:
 
 siteAbarema adenophoraAbarema
 macradenia
 Abatia parvifloraAbelmoschus esculentusAbelmoschus moschatus
 General Viejo
 1   
 1
 1   
 11
 Rio Pacuar
 0 
0
 0   
  00
 Las Brisas  
 0
 0 
 0
 1 
 1
 San Pedro
 0  
 0
 0  
 1 1
 Rio Convento   0
 0 
 
 0  
 1 1
 
 What will be the way to keep blank spaces for sites and species.  I
 know 
 that species will be unnecessary in this case  because I have too
 many 
 and I cannot show them in the plot, but just to learn for another
 time.
 
 Best,
 
 Manuel
 
 
 On 01/04/2011 03:16 a.m., Gavin Simpson wrote:
  On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 07:01 +0300, Jari Oksanen wrote:
  On 31/03/11 23:18 PM, Manuel Spínolamspinol...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Dear list members,
 
  I would like to include sites names with blank spaces in an
 ordiplot for
  an nmds (in vegan).
  How I do that?
 
  Manuel,
 
  Like Gav wrote, R indeed is a bit patronizing and doesn't let you
 to use
  dimension names with blank.
  It does. I made the species labels in my examples *not* have spaces
 in
  them because Manuel said only his site names had spaces. The
 following
  works just fine:
 
  require(vegan)
  set.seed(1)
  dat- data.frame(matrix(runif(100), ncol = 10))
  names(dat)- paste(Spp, 1:10)
  rownames(dat)- paste(Site, 1:10)
  mod- metaMDS(dat)
  plot(mod, type = text)
 
R only wants to protect you from trouble.
  Indeed - it is a pain to look at `Spp 1` now, for example, as
 everything
  needs to be quoted:
 
  R  dat$`Spp 1`
[1] 0.26550866 0.37212390 0.57285336 0.90820779 0.20168193
 0.89838968
[7] 0.94467527 0.66079779 0.62911404 0.06178627
 
  One issue that might catch people out is that R doesn't let you read
  data in with spaces in the colnames (unless read.table()'s
 check.names =
  FALSE is set) - spaces get replaced with `.`.
 
  However, the only constraint on rownames is that they be non-missing
 and
  non-duplicated. Both sets of names need to be syntactically valid
 but
  spaces are fine.
 
  Hence one can always change the row/colnames to suit just before
  plotting so one doesn't need to resort to extra plotting calls to
  achieve the desired result. That said, one usually will need extra
 calls
  to ordiplot functions as ordinations are complex beasts to plot so
  drawing the points with custom text labels is no real hardship
 either.
 
  Either approach works.
 
  G
 
  However, vegan lets you use any names in text() function for
 metaMDS: just
  list those names as a vector of quoted text in 'labels' argument to
  text.metaMDS(). The names given in 'labels' can have blanks, or
 even be al
  blanks as long as they are quoted. The length of the 'labels' must
 match the
  number of items plotted.
 
  All vegan text() functions for ordination plots should have the
 'labels'
  argument. I cannot guarantee that all of them have, but you can
 always
  report missing cases to us. The text() for metaMDS() certainly has
 'labels'
  as you can see if you read the help page ?metaMDS (which may not be
 a bad
  idea).
 
  Cheers, Jari Oksanen
 
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Re: [R-sig-eco] Sites names with spaces in ordiplot

2011-04-01 Thread Manuel Spínola
Thank you very much Gavin.

I understand now.

Best,

Manuel

On 01/04/2011 05:29 a.m., Gavin Simpson wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 05:14 -0600, Manuel Spínola wrote:
 Gavin and Jari, thank you very much.

 Actually, I am interested in both, sites and species.  I have 3000
 species (tropical forest trees) and I am trying to read the txt file
 with read.table.  I tried also read.delim, but I don't know how to
 bring
 the sites names in the plot.  I guess now I have the answer, using
 text().
 I mentioned this in my last email - the one you are replying to. The
 issue is that R will check the species (variable) names on input and
 remove spaces, replacing them with a `.`. But you *can* control whether
 it does this or not using check.names = FALSE.

 For example. Here is a simple CSV file:

 ,Spp 1,Spp 2,Spp 3
 Site 1,1,4,7
 Site 2,2,5,8
 Site 3,3,6,9

 with spaces in both the species and site names.

 We read it in via:

 dat- read.csv(spp.csv, row.names = 1, check.names = FALSE)
 dat

 And it gives us:

 Spp 1 Spp 2 Spp 3
 Site 1 1 4 7
 Site 2 2 5 8
 Site 3 3 6 9

 So it *has* preserved the spaces in the species names and it hasn't
 touched the row names.

 We can ordinate this with out any problems:

 require(vegan)
 mod- metaMDS(dat)
 plot(mod, type = text)

 Ok, that is a pretty pointless plot but it works.

 Does that help?

 G

 What happened if I have a txt file like this:

 siteAbarema adenophoraAbarema
 macradenia
 Abatia parvifloraAbelmoschus esculentusAbelmoschus moschatus
 General Viejo
 1
 1
 1
 11
 Rio Pacuar
 0
 0
 0
   00
 Las Brisas
 0
 0
 0
 1
  1
 San Pedro
 0
 0
 0
 1 1
 Rio Convento   0
 0

 0
 1 1

 What will be the way to keep blank spaces for sites and species.  I
 know
 that species will be unnecessary in this case  because I have too
 many
 and I cannot show them in the plot, but just to learn for another
 time.

 Best,

 Manuel


 On 01/04/2011 03:16 a.m., Gavin Simpson wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 07:01 +0300, Jari Oksanen wrote:
 On 31/03/11 23:18 PM, Manuel Spínolamspinol...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Dear list members,

 I would like to include sites names with blank spaces in an
 ordiplot for
 an nmds (in vegan).
 How I do that?

 Manuel,

 Like Gav wrote, R indeed is a bit patronizing and doesn't let you
 to use
 dimension names with blank.
 It does. I made the species labels in my examples *not* have spaces
 in
 them because Manuel said only his site names had spaces. The
 following
 works just fine:

 require(vegan)
 set.seed(1)
 dat- data.frame(matrix(runif(100), ncol = 10))
 names(dat)- paste(Spp, 1:10)
 rownames(dat)- paste(Site, 1:10)
 mod- metaMDS(dat)
 plot(mod, type = text)

R only wants to protect you from trouble.
 Indeed - it is a pain to look at `Spp 1` now, for example, as
 everything
 needs to be quoted:

 R   dat$`Spp 1`
[1] 0.26550866 0.37212390 0.57285336 0.90820779 0.20168193
 0.89838968
[7] 0.94467527 0.66079779 0.62911404 0.06178627

 One issue that might catch people out is that R doesn't let you read
 data in with spaces in the colnames (unless read.table()'s
 check.names =
 FALSE is set) - spaces get replaced with `.`.

 However, the only constraint on rownames is that they be non-missing
 and
 non-duplicated. Both sets of names need to be syntactically valid
 but
 spaces are fine.

 Hence one can always change the row/colnames to suit just before
 plotting so one doesn't need to resort to extra plotting calls to
 achieve the desired result. That said, one usually will need extra
 calls
 to ordiplot functions as ordinations are complex beasts to plot so
 drawing the points with custom text labels is no real hardship
 either.
 Either approach works.

 G

 However, vegan lets you use any names in text() function for
 metaMDS: just
 list those names as a vector of quoted text in 'labels' argument to
 text.metaMDS(). The names given in 'labels' can have blanks, or
 even be al
 blanks as long as they are quoted. The length of the 'labels' must
 match the
 number of items plotted.

 All vegan text() functions for ordination plots should have the
 'labels'
 argument. I cannot guarantee that all of them have, but you can
 always
 report missing cases to us. The text() for metaMDS() certainly has
 'labels'
 as you can see if you read the help page ?metaMDS (which may not be
 a bad
 idea).

 Cheers, Jari Oksanen

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[R-sig-eco] Sites names with spaces in ordiplot

2011-03-31 Thread Manuel Spínola
Dear list members,

I would like to include sites names with blank spaces in an ordiplot for 
an nmds (in vegan).
How I do that?

Best,

Manuel


-- 
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Instituto Internacional en Conservación y Manejo de Vida Silvestre
Universidad Nacional
Apartado 1350-3000
Heredia
COSTA RICA
mspin...@una.ac.cr
mspinol...@gmail.com
Teléfono: (506) 2277-3598
Fax: (506) 2237-7036
Personal website: Lobito de río 
https://sites.google.com/site/lobitoderio/
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Re: [R-sig-eco] Sites names with spaces in ordiplot

2011-03-31 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 00:46 +0100, Gavin Simpson wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 14:18 -0600, Manuel Spínola wrote:
  Dear list members,
  
  I would like to include sites names with blank spaces in an ordiplot for 
  an nmds (in vegan).
  How I do that?
 
 Did you even try it? It works - we and R don't give two hoots what the
 labels are, just make sure the row and col names of the dataframe/matrix
 are what you want to appear on the plot.

OK, the usual constraints on row and column names for matrices and data
frames apply, but other than that, we and R don't give two hoots.

G

 Here is an (not exactly inspiring) example:
 
 require(vegan)
 set.seed(1)
 dat - data.frame(matrix(runif(100), ncol = 10))
 names(dat) - paste(Spp, 1:10, sep = )
 rownames(dat) - paste(Site, 1:10)
 
 head(dat)
 
 mod - metaMDS(dat)
 plot(mod, type = text)
 
 HTH
 
 G
 
  Best,
  
  Manuel
  
  
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Re: [R-sig-eco] Sites names with spaces in ordiplot

2011-03-31 Thread Jari Oksanen
On 31/03/11 23:18 PM, Manuel Spínola mspinol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear list members,
 
 I would like to include sites names with blank spaces in an ordiplot for
 an nmds (in vegan).
 How I do that?
 
Manuel,

Like Gav wrote, R indeed is a bit patronizing and doesn't let you to use
dimension names with blank. R only wants to protect you from trouble.
However, vegan lets you use any names in text() function for metaMDS: just
list those names as a vector of quoted text in 'labels' argument to
text.metaMDS(). The names given in 'labels' can have blanks, or even be al
blanks as long as they are quoted. The length of the 'labels' must match the
number of items plotted.

All vegan text() functions for ordination plots should have the 'labels'
argument. I cannot guarantee that all of them have, but you can always
report missing cases to us. The text() for metaMDS() certainly has 'labels'
as you can see if you read the help page ?metaMDS (which may not be a bad
idea).

Cheers, Jari Oksanen

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