Dear R-sig-phylo,

I am fairly novice to the field of phylogenetic comparative methods and I was 
hoping to gain some advice regarding the study of ordinal (pseudo-continuous) 
morphological data.

I am currently studying morphological convergence associated with habitat 
transitions in Australian lizards. To some extent my data is very similar to 
Mahler et al. (2010, 2013), with several measurements of continuous traits such 
as SVL, limb length, head length etc. However in addition to metric data, I 
also have estimates of feet morphology such as the number of toe lamellae.

Now my question is whether it is statistically appropriate to analyse meristic 
data, such as lamellae number, in exactly the same way as the metric data? In 
particular in reference to for example running a Phylo PCA with size corrected 
residuals, phylo-anova (to test for correlation between habitat and trait) and 
running SURFACE to test for convergence?

Part of the reason why I would like your advice, is because the variation in 
counts is much less than for example in Mahler's study; in my case the 
differences in lamellae number ranges from 12 to 17, across 26 species. Ingram 
(2014) mentioned: "We note that one trait (gill raker number) is meristic 
rather than metric but that it is variable enough that species means were 
effectively continuous and approximately normally distributed...". I would like 
to ask if someone would have a suggestion how to assess whether the meristic 
traits can be considered as 'variable enough', to treat it as 
pseudo-continuous? Is this for example commonly done by traditional tests for 
normality?  And if it's not variable enough, could you recommend an alternative 
approach?

Many thanks, your help is much appreciated!

Best,

Moos



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