[R-sig-phylo] Weird estimated Lambda values (PGLS)

2015-05-08 Thread Sergio Ferreira Cardoso
Dear all,

I performed a PGLS with a tree with divergence times as branch lengths. I
used 1 dependent and 1 independent variable. When I estimate the Lambda (in
Pagel's method) I get the Maximum Likelihood Lambda ~0 and the Restricted
Maximum Likelihood Lambda 0.878054. This is really strange. I was thinking
I might have a tree with incorrect branchlengths but I checked the plot of
absolute value of contrast vs. standard deviation for both variables and
it's ok (according to Garland et al., 1992). With OU transformation I don't
have the same problem. However, the p-value of phylogenetic (both with OU
or with Brownian Motion PGLS) aren't very different from the ordinary
least-squares. Is there any other ordinary procedure/analysis I should make
other than the plots I checked to check my tree? (I understand that there
is a chance that the characters I am using have influence and maybe the
tree doesn't make any difference).

Best regards,
Sérgio.

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Sérgio Ferreira Cardoso.



Best regards,
Sérgio Ferreira Cardoso




MSc. Paleontology candidate
Departamento de Ciências da Terra - FCT /Universidade Nova de Lisboa
Geociências - Universidade de Évora

Lisboa, Portugal
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Re: [R-sig-phylo] Weird estimated Lambda values (PGLS)

2015-05-08 Thread Theodore Garland Jr
Do you have a plot of the likelihoods versus the parameter value?

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Subject: [R-sig-phylo] Weird estimated Lambda values (PGLS)

Dear all,

I performed a PGLS with a tree with divergence times as branch lengths. I
used 1 dependent and 1 independent variable. When I estimate the Lambda (in
Pagel's method) I get the Maximum Likelihood Lambda ~0 and the Restricted
Maximum Likelihood Lambda 0.878054. This is really strange. I was thinking
I might have a tree with incorrect branchlengths but I checked the plot of
absolute value of contrast vs. standard deviation for both variables and
it's ok (according to Garland et al., 1992). With OU transformation I don't
have the same problem. However, the p-value of phylogenetic (both with OU
or with Brownian Motion PGLS) aren't very different from the ordinary
least-squares. Is there any other ordinary procedure/analysis I should make
other than the plots I checked to check my tree? (I understand that there
is a chance that the characters I am using have influence and maybe the
tree doesn't make any difference).

Best regards,
Sérgio.

--
Com os melhores cumprimentos,
Sérgio Ferreira Cardoso.



Best regards,
Sérgio Ferreira Cardoso




MSc. Paleontology candidate
Departamento de Ciências da Terra - FCT /Universidade Nova de Lisboa
Geociências - Universidade de Évora

Lisboa, Portugal
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