Re: [racket-users] Re: hashcons

2020-09-14 Thread Tony Garnock-Jones
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 14:18, Hendrik Boom  wrote:

> I would, ideally, only use hashcons on those cons-cells which had
> themselves
> been hashconsed, so eq? would suffice.
>

The challenge is checking to see whether a new allocation is required.
Checking `eq?` of the cdr suffices, but seldom is `eq?` appropriate for the
car, assuming you want `(eq? (hashcons (set) '()) (hashcons (set) '()))`
and similar to hold. Canonicalize looks, roughly, like

(define (canonicalize c)
  (match c
[(cons a d) (if (cell-exists-in-weak-table-with-car-and-cdr? a d) ;; (X)
(extract-and-return-existing-cell a d)
(intern-and-return-cons-of a (canonicalize d)))]
[_ c]))

The line marked (X) will usually want to compare `a` with `equal?` and `d`
with `eq?`.

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Re: [racket-users] Re: hashcons

2020-09-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 01:11:34AM -0700, Tony Garnock-Jones wrote:
> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 12:41:15 AM UTC+2 hen...@topoi.pooq.com 
> wrote:
> 
> > True, but that would require rewriting list, and quasiquote, ans 
> > others like that to use the hashcons. 
> >
> > Not impossible. 
> >
> 
> One potentially useful trick is to write a function `canonicalize` which 
> deeply traverses the structure of its argument, rebuilding it if necessary 
> to produce the canonical representative for each piece of substructure. 
> Then you can `(canonicalize (map f xs))` without having to rewrite `map`, 
> and it takes (asymptotically) the same time as it would if you did alter 
> `map`.
> 
> Another thing to watch out for is that hashconsing via `equal?` can be 
> quite expensive for things like hash tables. I used hashconsing extensively 
> in the first implementation of Syndicate and ended up having to implement 
> my own treaps to get good asymptotic performance with a hashconsed 
> dictionary structure.

I would, ideally, only use hashcons on those cons-cells which had themselves 
been hashconsed, so eq? would suffice.

-- hendrik

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Re: [racket-users] Re: hashcons

2020-09-14 Thread Tony Garnock-Jones
On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 12:41:15 AM UTC+2 hen...@topoi.pooq.com 
wrote:

> True, but that would require rewriting list, and quasiquote, ans 
> others like that to use the hashcons. 
>
> Not impossible. 
>

One potentially useful trick is to write a function `canonicalize` which 
deeply traverses the structure of its argument, rebuilding it if necessary 
to produce the canonical representative for each piece of substructure. 
Then you can `(canonicalize (map f xs))` without having to rewrite `map`, 
and it takes (asymptotically) the same time as it would if you did alter 
`map`.

Another thing to watch out for is that hashconsing via `equal?` can be 
quite expensive for things like hash tables. I used hashconsing extensively 
in the first implementation of Syndicate and ended up having to implement 
my own treaps to get good asymptotic performance with a hashconsed 
dictionary structure.

Cheers,
  Tony
 

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Re: [racket-users] Re: hashcons

2020-09-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 01:23:24PM -0700, jackh...@gmail.com wrote:
> Not automatically, but you can make your own wrapper function around cons 
> that interns them using a weak hash table and then you can use that wrapper 
> function everywhere.

True, but that would require rewriting list, and quasiquote, ans 
others like that to use the hashcons.

Not impossible.

-- hendrik

> 
> On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 7:34:37 PM UTC-7 hen...@topoi.pooq.com 
> wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way to run Racket so that every immuable cons is made with 
> > a hashcons operation; i.e. it makes a new cons scel only if there 
> > isn't already one in memory somewhere with the same car and cdr 
> > values?
> >
> > -- hendrik
> >
> 
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[racket-users] Re: hashcons

2020-09-12 Thread jackh...@gmail.com
Not automatically, but you can make your own wrapper function around cons 
that interns them using a weak hash table and then you can use that wrapper 
function everywhere.

On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 7:34:37 PM UTC-7 hen...@topoi.pooq.com 
wrote:

> Is there a way to run Racket so that every immuable cons is made with 
> a hashcons operation; i.e. it makes a new cons scel only if there 
> isn't already one in memory somewhere with the same car and cdr 
> values?
>
> -- hendrik
>

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