RE: (RADIATOR) SQL Timeout when purging ACCOUNTING table

2001-03-14 Thread Kitabjian, Dave

My experience with such things is that it's a database contention problem:
the process of purging the table can easily (for Sql Server) escalate to a
table-lock, blocking any further Insert attempts.

I had to write a routine that would drop into a loop and delete one row at a
time, referring to that row exclusively by its Primary Key. That way, the
DBMS could find the row using the table index, and a table lock was hence
not necessary. This worked for me.

Another thing to consider is that the purge could simply be pegging the CPU
on the DB server (we've seen this, too). This is a lot easier to check: use
"top" on Unix or else Task Manager in NT.

Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: Janet N. del Mundo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: (RADIATOR) SQL Timeout when purging ACCOUNTING table
> 
> 
> Hi Hugh,
> 
> The missedaccounting file contained just the accounting stop records. 
> Yes, I waited for about 30 mins. and authentication requests 
> started to
> be rejected.  That's when I had to restart Radiator.  What can I do to
> not interrupt the users authentication?  Would it make any 
> difference if
> I use just a regular flat file, and not the 'AcctFailedLog...' feature
> to capture start and stop records?
> 
> Thanks,
> Janet
> 
> Hugh Irvine wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Janet -
> > 
> > What data is contained in the AcctFailedLogFileName file? 
> Did it actually
> > catch the accounting data? Notice that this will only catch 
> accounting stops
> > as sessions end, and as the debug shows, Radiator will not retry the
> > connection for 10 minutes (600 seconds) - did you wait that 
> long to see if it
> > would re-establish?
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > Hugh
> > 
> > On Tuesday 13 March 2001 15:58, Janet N. del Mundo wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Radiator still times out connecting to the SQL server 
> when we do a month
> > > end purge of old accounting data and our users are unable to
> > > authenticate.  I thought by using the 
> 'AcctFailedLogFileName' feature,
> > > the accounting data would default to this flat file and 
> not interrupt
> > > user authentication.  However, we just did a purge of old 
> data and I had
> > > to restart Radiator when the purge process was done.  
> What can I do to
> > > avoid this problem?
> > >
> > > log file:
> > > -
> > > Mon Mar 12 07:40:12 2001: ERR: Could not connect to SQL 
> database with
> > > DBI->connect dbi:ODBC:, x, x:  
> [OpenLink][ODBC]exceeded
> > > maximum number of allowed connections (SQL-08004)
> > > [OpenLink][ODBC]Connection rejected by data source (SQL-08004)
> > > [OpenLink][ODBC]exceeded maximum number of allowed connections
> > > (SQL-08004)
> > > [OpenLink][ODBC]Connection rejected by data source 
> (SQL-08004)(DBD:
> > > db_login/SQLConnect err=-1)
> > > Mon Mar 12 07:40:12 2001: ERR: Could not connect to any 
> SQL database.
> > > Request is ignored. Backing off for 600 sec
> > > onds
> > >
> > > config file:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Identifier SQL
> > > DBSource dbi:ODBC:x
> > > DBUsername x
> > > DBAuth x
> > >
> > > AuthSelect select Password, Expiration, SimUse, \
> > > IdleTime, SessionTime, StaticIP \
> > > from USERS where IDENTIFIER = '%n' AND 
> STATUS != 'C'
> > >
> > > AuthColumnDef 1, Expiration, check
> > > AuthColumnDef 2, Simultaneous-Use, check
> > > AuthColumnDef 3, Idle-Timeout, reply
> > > AuthColumnDef 4, Session-Timeout, reply
> > > AuthColumnDef 5, Framed-IP-Address, reply
> > >
> > > AccountingTable ACCOUNTING
> > >
> > > AcctColumnDef   IDENTIFIER,User-Name
> > > AcctColumnDef   
> TIME_STAMP,Timestamp,formatted-date,'%m-%d-%Y
> > > %H:%M:%S'
> > > AcctColumnDef   DURATION,Acct-Session-Time,integer
> > > AcctColumnDef   ACCTSTATUSTYPE,Acct-Status-Type
> > > AcctColumnDef   ACCTDELAYTIME,Acct-Delay-Time,integer
> > > #AcctColumnDef   ACCTINPUTOCTETS,Acct-Input-Octets,integer
> > > #AcctColumnDef   
> ACCTOUTPUTOCTETS,Acct-Output-Octets,integer
> > > AcctC

Re: (RADIATOR) SQL Timeout when purging ACCOUNTING table

2001-03-13 Thread Hugh Irvine


Hello Janet -

On Wednesday 14 March 2001 09:15, Janet N. del Mundo wrote:
> Hi Hugh,
>
> The missedaccounting file contained just the accounting stop records.
> Yes, I waited for about 30 mins. and authentication requests started to
> be rejected.  That's when I had to restart Radiator.  What can I do to
> not interrupt the users authentication?  Would it make any difference if
> I use just a regular flat file, and not the 'AcctFailedLog...' feature
> to capture start and stop records?
>

It won't make any difference what file you use, as the problem appears to be 
with the OpenLink ODBC driver, or with the database (although I suspect the 
former).

BTW - if monthly (long) runs are causing a problem, why not do a daily run at 
the quietest time of your day (probably around 4am)? You really shouldn't be 
doing any heavy processing on the database during your busy times.

I have forwarded your mail to Mike for his comments.

regards

Hugh


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Re: (RADIATOR) SQL Timeout when purging ACCOUNTING table

2001-03-13 Thread Janet N. del Mundo

Hi Hugh,

The missedaccounting file contained just the accounting stop records. 
Yes, I waited for about 30 mins. and authentication requests started to
be rejected.  That's when I had to restart Radiator.  What can I do to
not interrupt the users authentication?  Would it make any difference if
I use just a regular flat file, and not the 'AcctFailedLog...' feature
to capture start and stop records?

Thanks,
Janet

Hugh Irvine wrote:
> 
> Hello Janet -
> 
> What data is contained in the AcctFailedLogFileName file? Did it actually
> catch the accounting data? Notice that this will only catch accounting stops
> as sessions end, and as the debug shows, Radiator will not retry the
> connection for 10 minutes (600 seconds) - did you wait that long to see if it
> would re-establish?
> 
> regards
> 
> Hugh
> 
> On Tuesday 13 March 2001 15:58, Janet N. del Mundo wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Radiator still times out connecting to the SQL server when we do a month
> > end purge of old accounting data and our users are unable to
> > authenticate.  I thought by using the 'AcctFailedLogFileName' feature,
> > the accounting data would default to this flat file and not interrupt
> > user authentication.  However, we just did a purge of old data and I had
> > to restart Radiator when the purge process was done.  What can I do to
> > avoid this problem?
> >
> > log file:
> > -
> > Mon Mar 12 07:40:12 2001: ERR: Could not connect to SQL database with
> > DBI->connect dbi:ODBC:, x, x:  [OpenLink][ODBC]exceeded
> > maximum number of allowed connections (SQL-08004)
> > [OpenLink][ODBC]Connection rejected by data source (SQL-08004)
> > [OpenLink][ODBC]exceeded maximum number of allowed connections
> > (SQL-08004)
> > [OpenLink][ODBC]Connection rejected by data source (SQL-08004)(DBD:
> > db_login/SQLConnect err=-1)
> > Mon Mar 12 07:40:12 2001: ERR: Could not connect to any SQL database.
> > Request is ignored. Backing off for 600 sec
> > onds
> >
> > config file:
> > 
> > 
> > Identifier SQL
> > DBSource dbi:ODBC:x
> > DBUsername x
> > DBAuth x
> >
> > AuthSelect select Password, Expiration, SimUse, \
> > IdleTime, SessionTime, StaticIP \
> > from USERS where IDENTIFIER = '%n' AND STATUS != 'C'
> >
> > AuthColumnDef 1, Expiration, check
> > AuthColumnDef 2, Simultaneous-Use, check
> > AuthColumnDef 3, Idle-Timeout, reply
> > AuthColumnDef 4, Session-Timeout, reply
> > AuthColumnDef 5, Framed-IP-Address, reply
> >
> > AccountingTable ACCOUNTING
> >
> > AcctColumnDef   IDENTIFIER,User-Name
> > AcctColumnDef   TIME_STAMP,Timestamp,formatted-date,'%m-%d-%Y
> > %H:%M:%S'
> > AcctColumnDef   DURATION,Acct-Session-Time,integer
> > AcctColumnDef   ACCTSTATUSTYPE,Acct-Status-Type
> > AcctColumnDef   ACCTDELAYTIME,Acct-Delay-Time,integer
> > #AcctColumnDef   ACCTINPUTOCTETS,Acct-Input-Octets,integer
> > #AcctColumnDef   ACCTOUTPUTOCTETS,Acct-Output-Octets,integer
> > AcctColumnDef   ACCTSESSIONID,Acct-Session-Id
> > AcctColumnDef   ACCTTERMINATECAUSE,Acct-Terminate-Cause
> > #AcctColumnDef   NASIDENTIFIER,NAS-Identifier
> > AcctColumnDef   NASIDENTIFIER,NAS-IP-Address
> > AcctColumnDef   NASPORT,NAS-Port,integer
> > AcctColumnDef   FRAMEDIPADDRESS,Framed-IP-Address
> > AcctColumnDef   CONNECTSPEED,Connect-Info
> > AcctColumnDef   CONNECTSPEED,USR-Connect-Speed
> > AcctColumnDef   CALLERID,Calling-Station-Id
> > AcctColumnDef   POPID,Called-Station-Id
> >
> > # You can arrange to log accounting to a file if the
> > # SQL insert fails with AcctFailedLogFileName
> > # That way you could recover from a broken SQL
> > # server
> > AcctLogFileFormat %{User-Name};%m-%d-%Y
> > %H:%M:%S;%{Acct-Session-Time};%{Acct-Status-Type};\
> > %{Acct-Delay-Time};%{Acct-Session-Id};%{Acct-Terminate-Cause};\
> > %{NAS-IP-Address};%{NAS-Port};%{Framed-IP-Address};%{Connect-Info};\
> > %{USR-Connect-Speed};%{Calling-Station-Id};%{Called-Station-Id}
> >
> > AcctFailedLogFileName %D/missedaccounting.%y%m%d
> >
> > 
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Janet
> 
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Re: (RADIATOR) SQL Timeout when purging ACCOUNTING table

2001-03-13 Thread Hugh Irvine


Hello Janet -

What data is contained in the AcctFailedLogFileName file? Did it actually 
catch the accounting data? Notice that this will only catch accounting stops 
as sessions end, and as the debug shows, Radiator will not retry the 
connection for 10 minutes (600 seconds) - did you wait that long to see if it 
would re-establish?

regards

Hugh


On Tuesday 13 March 2001 15:58, Janet N. del Mundo wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Radiator still times out connecting to the SQL server when we do a month
> end purge of old accounting data and our users are unable to
> authenticate.  I thought by using the 'AcctFailedLogFileName' feature,
> the accounting data would default to this flat file and not interrupt
> user authentication.  However, we just did a purge of old data and I had
> to restart Radiator when the purge process was done.  What can I do to
> avoid this problem?
>
> log file:
> -
> Mon Mar 12 07:40:12 2001: ERR: Could not connect to SQL database with
> DBI->connect dbi:ODBC:, x, x:  [OpenLink][ODBC]exceeded
> maximum number of allowed connections (SQL-08004)
> [OpenLink][ODBC]Connection rejected by data source (SQL-08004)
> [OpenLink][ODBC]exceeded maximum number of allowed connections
> (SQL-08004)
> [OpenLink][ODBC]Connection rejected by data source (SQL-08004)(DBD:
> db_login/SQLConnect err=-1)
> Mon Mar 12 07:40:12 2001: ERR: Could not connect to any SQL database.
> Request is ignored. Backing off for 600 sec
> onds
>
> config file:
> 
> 
> Identifier SQL
> DBSource dbi:ODBC:x
> DBUsername x
> DBAuth x
>
> AuthSelect select Password, Expiration, SimUse, \
> IdleTime, SessionTime, StaticIP \
> from USERS where IDENTIFIER = '%n' AND STATUS != 'C'
>
> AuthColumnDef 1, Expiration, check
> AuthColumnDef 2, Simultaneous-Use, check
> AuthColumnDef 3, Idle-Timeout, reply
> AuthColumnDef 4, Session-Timeout, reply
> AuthColumnDef 5, Framed-IP-Address, reply
>
> AccountingTable ACCOUNTING
>
> AcctColumnDef   IDENTIFIER,User-Name
> AcctColumnDef   TIME_STAMP,Timestamp,formatted-date,'%m-%d-%Y
> %H:%M:%S'
> AcctColumnDef   DURATION,Acct-Session-Time,integer
> AcctColumnDef   ACCTSTATUSTYPE,Acct-Status-Type
> AcctColumnDef   ACCTDELAYTIME,Acct-Delay-Time,integer
> #AcctColumnDef   ACCTINPUTOCTETS,Acct-Input-Octets,integer
> #AcctColumnDef   ACCTOUTPUTOCTETS,Acct-Output-Octets,integer
> AcctColumnDef   ACCTSESSIONID,Acct-Session-Id
> AcctColumnDef   ACCTTERMINATECAUSE,Acct-Terminate-Cause
> #AcctColumnDef   NASIDENTIFIER,NAS-Identifier
> AcctColumnDef   NASIDENTIFIER,NAS-IP-Address
> AcctColumnDef   NASPORT,NAS-Port,integer
> AcctColumnDef   FRAMEDIPADDRESS,Framed-IP-Address
> AcctColumnDef   CONNECTSPEED,Connect-Info
> AcctColumnDef   CONNECTSPEED,USR-Connect-Speed
> AcctColumnDef   CALLERID,Calling-Station-Id
> AcctColumnDef   POPID,Called-Station-Id
>
> # You can arrange to log accounting to a file if the
> # SQL insert fails with AcctFailedLogFileName
> # That way you could recover from a broken SQL
> # server
> AcctLogFileFormat %{User-Name};%m-%d-%Y
> %H:%M:%S;%{Acct-Session-Time};%{Acct-Status-Type};\
> %{Acct-Delay-Time};%{Acct-Session-Id};%{Acct-Terminate-Cause};\
> %{NAS-IP-Address};%{NAS-Port};%{Framed-IP-Address};%{Connect-Info};\
> %{USR-Connect-Speed};%{Calling-Station-Id};%{Called-Station-Id}
>
> AcctFailedLogFileName %D/missedaccounting.%y%m%d
>
> 
>
> Thank you,
> Janet

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(RADIATOR) SQL Timeout when purging ACCOUNTING table

2001-03-12 Thread Janet N. del Mundo

Hi everyone,

Radiator still times out connecting to the SQL server when we do a month
end purge of old accounting data and our users are unable to
authenticate.  I thought by using the 'AcctFailedLogFileName' feature,
the accounting data would default to this flat file and not interrupt
user authentication.  However, we just did a purge of old data and I had
to restart Radiator when the purge process was done.  What can I do to
avoid this problem?

log file:
-
Mon Mar 12 07:40:12 2001: ERR: Could not connect to SQL database with
DBI->connect dbi:ODBC:, x, x:  [OpenLink][ODBC]exceeded
maximum number of allowed connections (SQL-08004)
[OpenLink][ODBC]Connection rejected by data source (SQL-08004)
[OpenLink][ODBC]exceeded maximum number of allowed connections
(SQL-08004)
[OpenLink][ODBC]Connection rejected by data source (SQL-08004)(DBD:
db_login/SQLConnect err=-1)
Mon Mar 12 07:40:12 2001: ERR: Could not connect to any SQL database.
Request is ignored. Backing off for 600 sec
onds

config file:


Identifier SQL
DBSource dbi:ODBC:x
DBUsername x
DBAuth x

AuthSelect select Password, Expiration, SimUse, \ 
IdleTime, SessionTime, StaticIP \
from USERS where IDENTIFIER = '%n' AND STATUS != 'C'

AuthColumnDef 1, Expiration, check
AuthColumnDef 2, Simultaneous-Use, check
AuthColumnDef 3, Idle-Timeout, reply
AuthColumnDef 4, Session-Timeout, reply
AuthColumnDef 5, Framed-IP-Address, reply

AccountingTable ACCOUNTING

AcctColumnDef   IDENTIFIER,User-Name
AcctColumnDef   TIME_STAMP,Timestamp,formatted-date,'%m-%d-%Y
%H:%M:%S'
AcctColumnDef   DURATION,Acct-Session-Time,integer
AcctColumnDef   ACCTSTATUSTYPE,Acct-Status-Type
AcctColumnDef   ACCTDELAYTIME,Acct-Delay-Time,integer
#AcctColumnDef   ACCTINPUTOCTETS,Acct-Input-Octets,integer
#AcctColumnDef   ACCTOUTPUTOCTETS,Acct-Output-Octets,integer
AcctColumnDef   ACCTSESSIONID,Acct-Session-Id
AcctColumnDef   ACCTTERMINATECAUSE,Acct-Terminate-Cause
#AcctColumnDef   NASIDENTIFIER,NAS-Identifier
AcctColumnDef   NASIDENTIFIER,NAS-IP-Address
AcctColumnDef   NASPORT,NAS-Port,integer
AcctColumnDef   FRAMEDIPADDRESS,Framed-IP-Address
AcctColumnDef   CONNECTSPEED,Connect-Info
AcctColumnDef   CONNECTSPEED,USR-Connect-Speed
AcctColumnDef   CALLERID,Calling-Station-Id
AcctColumnDef   POPID,Called-Station-Id

# You can arrange to log accounting to a file if the
# SQL insert fails with AcctFailedLogFileName
# That way you could recover from a broken SQL
# server
AcctLogFileFormat %{User-Name};%m-%d-%Y
%H:%M:%S;%{Acct-Session-Time};%{Acct-Status-Type};\
%{Acct-Delay-Time};%{Acct-Session-Id};%{Acct-Terminate-Cause};\
%{NAS-IP-Address};%{NAS-Port};%{Framed-IP-Address};%{Connect-Info};\
%{USR-Connect-Speed};%{Calling-Station-Id};%{Called-Station-Id}

AcctFailedLogFileName %D/missedaccounting.%y%m%d



Thank you,
Janet

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