Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Shoutcast Not Working
IndyBW;599648 Wrote: Hmmm... i tried entering a station name in the shoutcast appp's search box - unablle to paarse.. ditto for the url. what am i missing? Rather than using the Shoutcast directory on your SB, if you know the direct URL to a station, you can use the SB web interface to enter that URL directly. (if using MySB.com, you'll need to add a favorite and put the URL there, then access it from your Favorites). -- virgiliomi virgiliomi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33715 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84009 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Shoutcast Not Working
Thanks Andy. It doesn't sound like we will have ShoutCast in the near future (if at all) but we appreciate you keeping the lines of communication open with them. For those that want to email ShoutCast as a listener that misses ShoutCast on their SqueezeBox player go to http://www.shoutcast.com/, then click Send Feedback. Not sure this will do much, but it's worth 30 seconds to send them a note as a SqueezeBox user. Future alternatives Andy? Anything is better than nothing. :) IceCast? IheartRadio? LiquidCompass? I am not familiar with any of these so I do not know how they compare to ShoutCast. What I really liked about ShoutCast on a SqueezeBox were four main things: 1. Large selection of stations 2. Deep genre separation, they have over 300 genres 3. Most stations ere internet only, *NOT* rebroadcasts of terrestrial AM/FM (we have RadioTime for those) 4. Bitrate Filter to filter out the lower kbps streams and duplicate streams -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84009 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action
davenva;599612 Wrote: ... Does your statement quite reliably mean 100% reliable? The alarm might have its quirks, but it does reliable wake me up every morning at the correct time (also if the DSL modem is off or my server is down for maintenance). :) -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82804 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Standby with Battery Pack?
There are a couple of related BugZilla tickets: 'Bug 16572 - Configurable time for full off when running on battery' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16572) 'Bug 15782 - wake Radio every 4 weeks to keep battery in good shape ' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15782) -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84479 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox keeps on losing connection to reuter
It depends on if you use a Windows computer or something else (Mac, Linux, etc.) But anyways, 'here's how' (http://tinyurl.com/nz9z4y). :D -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84401 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action
davenva;599612 Wrote: I get a variety of behaviors from the radio. Some of the time I get the alarm with the sound clip that I've selected (~30% of the time) Some of the time I get the backup alarm noise (~60%) Some of the time I get the backup alarm noise twice, the 2nd coming a couple of minutes after I shut off the first (~5%) Some times I get no alarm at all (~5%) So, it will wake me up about 95% of the time. My cheap travel alarm clock is my backup and is set 2 minutes later than the radio, to cover the 5% failure rate. I often wonder why I keep using the radio alarm at all - sick curiosity, I guess! Being an engineer, I hold out hope that one day Logitech will fix it. If it were my product, it would drive me crazy until it got fixed. I run squeezebox server on a local PC that is always on, but from reading the logs, I think that the sound clips are only on MySqueezebox.com. I captured posted the logs in the slim bug system a couple of times, but they appear to have been ignored. Behavior seems to change with new sw releases, but never stabilizes. I did have a run where it worked properly for a few weeks, but that ended with one of the sw updates. Does your statement quite reliably mean 100% reliable? I had an issue using the built-in sound effects which are actually served through MySB.com. I found a sound I like as an alarm, and have as an MP3 on my local SBS, and have had basically 100% reliability since using that sound as my alarm instead of the sound effects. -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82804 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action
Another failure mode not accounted for at all is if the device gets an valid stream that is silent, if you fav radio stations sends but no sound. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82804 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Questions Regarding Alarm
Sadly must agree with the consensus here - but the stupidity of it it makes me weep. The radio is so clearly marketed as a bedside radio/alarm and it could have had mass market appeal - had it not failed so abysmally at this one basic function. I know it's an awesome network music player, and I'd love to recommend it to friends family - but for the the alarm's failings. WHY, LOGITECH, WHY ? How much effort could it really take ? The irony is that the alarm is 99% reliable for me, thanks mainly to a local SBS server (ReadyNas) and Erland's custom plugins. But I'm now too terrified of updating the SBS software (currently 1.5.0) for fear of de-stabalising the alarm. -- squishy squishy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35390 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83998 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action
aubuti;599785 Wrote: Hmm, what if Logitech added 'tree falling in a forest' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest) to the Natural sounds selections. Would it wake anyone up? ;o) :P I'll love to explain myself at work I did not hear the tree -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82804 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Questions Regarding Alarm
I'll use my boom all the except for when i'll catch a fligth or a train . It basically never fails my server boots 2 times a day I have set really long intervalls for the diskcheck intervall but like many linux systems sometime it's disckchek time and 3TB of drives in my tiny server does not always check in the 10 minute frame and sometimes it's at alarm time, Then I have booms 3 tone backup tone. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83998 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Questions Regarding Alarm
erland;595950 Wrote: You can still get a Radio for streaming music because it's a great networked music player. Sorry, erland, please don't take offense meant (grovel) but that's like saying. You can still buy this car, the engine is unreliable and prone to conk out on the day you have a very important job interview, but it does have a fantastic navigation system. I guess there are people here who have bought the radio and don't need an alarm, but perhaps I don't understand why. If you needed a great network music player, surely the Boom or Touch have superior sound quality. (stereo for a start) -- squishy squishy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35390 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83998 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Shoutcast Not Working
^ as above and also... 5. it just worked from the controller (no need to web ui anything or copy any urls etc) 6. even the missus could use it I really would be gutted to see this gone! -- vicvondoom vicvondoom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42605 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84009 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Questions Regarding Alarm
Actually, I bought a Radio so it can sit on my desk at work and play music, rather than for an alarm clock. I didn't want the larger size of the Boom, and I'm not playing it real loud, so Stereo isn't an issue. Plus I like to see the album art as well, and the weather screensaver (add-on applet) when not playing music is also nice. I have a Boom at home in my bedroom, and it works great as an alarm clock on my local SB Server. However, if it comforts anyone here, when using MySB on my Boom, the alarm is definitely less reliable (I don't think it's quite as bad as some here are having with the Radio, but I've certainly had my issues with it). -- virgiliomi virgiliomi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33715 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83998 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Questions Regarding Alarm
I belong to those that - with the help of a local server - has 99,5% reliable alarms. I'm waking up every day for work to a radio stream I configured. Only in 1% of cases I hear the fallback alarm. As I'm one of those who has deep insights into the alarm code I also trust it's fallback mechanism a lot. I think not waking up to some sound is not an issue - it's rather waking up to the wrong sound (i.e. the fallback alarm) that is annoying people. The Radio is very strict in starting the fallback alarm - tiny network glitches or problems with the alarm streams (this includes the 'inbuilt' sounds, that are streamed from MySB.com) cause the fallback to sound. Here are the most important things for a working reliable alarm: - use a local server - it will trigger the alarm reliable at the right time (except on days when daylight saving times change and your server is not configured correct). Using MySB.com introduces unreliableness for the alarm trigger - don't have your server do heavy stuff (like backups) at alarm time - don't use 'inbuilt' sounds. These are streamed from MySB.com, which might not be considered reliable for streaming the sounds (Just think of how many people have their alarm scheduled at even hours - and all those users start to stream the same file at the same time). Download the file if needed and install it as local mp3. - don't use BBC streams. In another thread we realized, that these change their streaming URLs at certain times every day. This leads to a dropout of audio for about two seconds = and the fallback alarm will sound. If you alarm is around one of those times you will hear the fallback every day. - always (!) configure your alarm via the Radio. Don't use the WebUI or the iPhone or iPad-Apps. Only configuring the alarm directly on the Radio ensures, that it has a proper connection to the server and knows the alarm time to properly setup the fallback alarm. If the alarm is only configured on the server, you will never know if it was synchronized to the Radio at least once. This seems like a long list - but all points are very easy to follow (except setting up a local server - but the original poster wanted to do that anyway). There are even other workarounds available on this forum if things are still not working (like installing your own fallback mp3 directly on the Radio if you don't like the inbuilt sound or changing the volume of the fallback alarm). So while the alarm might not be easy to make reliable without the background knowledge - people with a local server definitely should not fear the alarm feature. Also there are at lot of people willing to help in this forum. Oh - and what did I have to read about iPhones? They didn't sound their alarms from 1st to 3rd January for many users? How unreliable ... we should start a class action against Apple ;) -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83998 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Shoutcast Not Working
toby10;599708 Wrote: Thanks Andy. It doesn't sound like we will have ShoutCast in the near future (if at all) but we appreciate you keeping the lines of communication open with them. For those that want to email ShoutCast as a listener that misses ShoutCast on their SqueezeBox player go to http://www.shoutcast.com/, then click Send Feedback. Not sure this will do much, but it's worth 30 seconds to send them a note as a SqueezeBox user. Future alternatives Andy? Anything is better than nothing. :) IceCast? IheartRadio? LiquidCompass? I am not familiar with any of these so I do not know how they compare to ShoutCast. What I really liked about ShoutCast on a SqueezeBox were four main things: 1. Large selection of stations 2. Deep genre separation, they have over 300 genres 3. Most stations ere internet only, *NOT* rebroadcasts of terrestrial AM/FM (we have RadioTime for those) 4. Bitrate Filter to filter out the lower kbps streams and duplicate streams yeah ,that is a very compelling list .While I have many Shoutcast stations listed as favorites,I would be major pissed if I could not connect to them down the road.Groove Salad comes to mind immediately. -- jhonsber...@msn.com jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84009 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Questions Regarding Alarm
While I don't like Apple at all, I fail to imagine they will be incapable of fixing this bug in more than a year. Of course, if the iPhone was built by Logitech, they (and the fanboys) would claim that the alarm clock was not important anyway, as it's a phone after all. Also you could stick a cheap LCD alarm clock to its back with some duct tape. -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83998 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Questions Regarding Alarm
As you talk of Duct Tape ... Apple was that company that gave free Bumpers to those with iPhone4 connectivity problems as far as I remember ;) So this is our nice cool consumer world I guess. Guess we see Radio Alarm packs (i.e. DuctTape kits) soon :D -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83998 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action
Mnyb;599783 Wrote: Another failure mode not accounted for at all is if the device gets an valid stream that is silent, if you fav radio stations sends but no sound. Thankfully the local all-news station I am listening to has a rock-solid stream ... :) -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82804 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Shoutcast Not Working
jhonsber...@msn.com;599858 Wrote: yeah ,that is a very compelling list .While I have many Shoutcast stations listed as favorites,I would be major pissed if I could not connect to them down the road.Groove Salad comes to mind immediately. Groove Salad is available on SB's via the Soma or RadioTime Apps, plus in the basic Internet Radio menu (which is also RadioTime). Most of the ShoutCast streams are obtainable via RadioTime etc..., but it's much more difficult to weed out all of the crap on RadioTime than it was with ShoutCast. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84009 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Shoutcast Not Working
Andy, How do we get rid of the ShoutCast menu item on our players? It is no longer in My Apps on MySB.com so I cannot uninstall it. As crazy as it sounds, maybe you could put the ShoutCast App back up so we can uninstall it? Maybe a note on the App no longer works, only here to uninstall from players? And no Install function within the App? Dunno, just bugs me to keep scrolling past ShoutCast on my players. The more I see it the more pissed I get that I can no longer use it. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84009 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Shoutcast Not Working
While I dont see the app at all anymore on my Squeesebox radio , i did not have to un install it, it just stopped showing up ,but i guess that may be different for different models... -- foehammer foehammer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84009 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Shoutcast Not Working
toby10;599890 Wrote: Andy, How do we get rid of the ShoutCast menu item on our players? It is no longer in My Apps on MySB.com so I cannot uninstall it. As crazy as it sounds, maybe you could put the ShoutCast App back up so we can uninstall it? Maybe a note on the App no longer works, only here to uninstall from players? And no Install function within the App? Dunno, just bugs me to keep scrolling past ShoutCast on my players. The more I see it the more pissed I get that I can no longer use it. :) Are you conected to test.mysqueezebox.com ? don't :) it' s left htere but just as nonworking as ever, it has dissapeared from my players. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84009 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio