Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio WiFi woes - is it hardware or software?
cjfreitag wrote: > Yes, the player it syncs with is connected via Ethernet and is rock > solid on its own. I'm confused. Are both of these players connected via ethernet or is one of them WIFI? *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100731 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio WiFi woes - is it hardware or software?
Yes, the player it syncs with is connected via Ethernet and is rock solid on its own. cjfreitag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41363 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100731 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio WiFi woes - is it hardware or software?
cjfreitag wrote: > Well, THAT didn't last long. As soon as synced with another player the > bad WiFi behavior returned. I switched back to Ethernet and all is good > again. > > So...why would it work fine on its own, but not when synced? does the player you're synching with work just fine when played by itself. If synching and one of the two players struggles with signal strength, it affects both players. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100731 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio WiFi woes - is it hardware or software?
Well, THAT didn't last long. As soon as synced with another player the bad WiFi behavior returned. I switched back to Ethernet and all is good again. So...why would it work fine on its own, but not when synced? cjfreitag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41363 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100731 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Static IP ???
d6jg wrote: > You would think that a static IP would connect more quickly but the > truth is it's about the same as the client machine still polls the > network for potential clashes of IP address before accepting the static > IP. It doesn't need to do this when it's DHCP as that's a continual job > of the server. > > One my reasons for not running DHCP on the router is power related. My > servers are protected by UPS but the router isn't. nope i dont think that... - i do know that cause i am a Networker with some certificate*s* :p In Fact if the DHCPServer (Router) and Switch are on the Same System - its -trouser like jacket- if you using DHCP or not. Without that System (Switch) nothing can connect to nothing. And no - just ask someone about some context Man in the Midle and Arp Spoofing - but thats more oftopic than the "Squeezeboxradio" Topic here can handle. Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100787 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Static IP ???
This bug for example . http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17462 Regarding the reciever (part of duet ) the Ethernet connection apparently can fail to get DHCP if the gateway is not 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1 . The exact circumstance i dont know , i'm no network guru either . its probably some interaction between squeezebox and buggy consumer grade routers . I can only guess that a computer can have more workarounds built it to take care of this ? How many times have you not "repaired" the network on a win laptop (or forced it to acquire a new ip with ipconfig ) on not so good networks . For example the other day one of my less used squeezeboxes , due to some fiddling it was on dhcp :P but i've not cared to corrrect that . I had to disconnect and reconnect again to the network otherwise it rebuffered ? Disclaimer I'm thinking of getting a modern router instead of the good old 54GL (with tomato fw ) I think I start to be outgunned by the neighbours in the constant wifi ch war you have when living in a flat/condo/apartment block :) Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100787 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Static IP ???
You would think that a static IP would connect more quickly but the truth is it's about the same as the client machine still polls the network for potential clashes of IP address before accepting the static IP. It doesn't need to do this when it's DHCP as that's a continual job of the server. One my reasons for not running DHCP on the router is power related. My servers are protected by UPS but the router isn't. QNAP TS419P 4TB LMS7.7.2 *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - > Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser HDR 130 *Office* - SB3 -> Sony TA FE320 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100787 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Static IP ???
garym wrote: > I don't know the technical explanation for the DHCP client potential > issues with some SB players (I'm not a networking, IT, or systems > person, just an end user). I've just seen personal examples of static IP > solving some problems with reconnecting. Hopefully, some another forum > member can provide a more technical explanation of the potential issue. Hi its quite simple... On DHCP everything is quite easy for beginners - they only have to setup / change their settings once ion a central managed System. So SB boxes are (just look @ 95% of the other questions) are made for homeusers they didnt know nothing about Networking and therefore if the SB didnt find a dhcp ack in the net they pop up a menu to enter the Ip manual. The odd thing about DHCP is - its Dynamic not all homeoffice Routers do ping a Adress to check if the address isnt in use right now and just looking in their database what may the next free adress and told that the system thats asking for a ip. Since almost everyone uses Notebooks / Tablet / smartphones a Powerfailure in the House just restarts the Router not the client - in case of dhcp this might be a problem in case of a static IP - not that much. So the resume is dhcp is fine for Smartphones/ Systems without a Keyboard that often cheges the Network (WLAN) - static IP is fine for Networkers / Server static Systems once setup after that just works Headless somewhere. Btw: Its a good idea to uses separate Networks for separate Topologies - 192.168.10.0/ 24 for Ethernet / 192.168.11.0/24 for Wlan - but most Homerouters cant manage two Networks:p Not allows the whole IP Range for DHCP and reserve some few for statics is always on the todolist. (Dont setup a System to use eg. 192.168.99.10 static and use a DHCP Range that may can handle this 192.168.99.10 Adress - it should only use eg 192.168.99.30 till 192.168.99.40) Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100787 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio WiFi woes - is it hardware or software?
I set the channel of one of my hubs to 6 and connected the Radio that that via WiFi. I ran it for more than an hour without problems, so perhaps this is the fix. However, I still have the feeling that something in the Radio is a little wonky...just small changes in behavior, like delays in responding to button pushes or a very show fade out when I push the power button...but for the moment it is functional. cjfreitag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41363 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100731 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Static IP ???
d6jg wrote: > I have to admit that my network does consist of pro grade kit and > therefore a lot of the techniques I use aren't going to be available to > others. For example the DHCP server does not run on the router it's on > my "Domain Controller" - that's in inverted commas because its a Samba > Domain Controller not a windoze one. > > My LMS runs on a QNAP which does have a manually configured IP (could be > reserved) but all the SB players are DHCP. > > I have never had to use a manually configured static IP on any of my SB > players - I haven't got a Duet or Transporter but do have at least one > of all others and have never come across any issue with the DHCP client > - what is the problem with it? I don't know the technical explanation for the DHCP client potential issues with some SB players (I'm not a networking, IT, or systems person, just an end user). I've just seen personal examples of static IP solving some problems with reconnecting. Hopefully, some another forum member can provide a more technical explanation of the potential issue. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100787 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Static IP ???
garym wrote: > But there are cases I've seen where static IP has been helpful. One in > particular was a location where there were frequent (every few days) > short power outages. Once the user changed the SB players to static IP, > everything started coming back on line (when power restored) with no > issues whatsoever. Ah!! I've had a couple of power outages recently (due to faulty kitchen equipment) and all of my radios needed to be reconnected to the wireless network manually. The Boom was fine though which MAY have a static ip. When I had my first SB3 I had some issues connecting to LMS which were resolved by having both server and sb on static ips. As a result I restricted by DHCP to only have addresses up to 192.168.xxx.174. Above that is reserved for static ips. I had assumed the problem was that when the power came back the radios booted faster than the router and so failed to get an ip allocated. I'll try setting them as static and see what happens next time I have a power issue - although hopefully that won't be for a while! Squeezebox Plus, Naim nDAC, NAC202, NAP200, Focal Cobalt 816. Boom SB Radio 2 x UE Radio running as SB aspendl828's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100787 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Static IP ???
I have to admit that my network does consist of pro grade kit and therefore a lot of the techniques I use aren't going to be available to others. For example the DHCP server does not run on the router it's on my "Domain Controller" - that's in inverted commas because its a Samba Domain Controller not a windoze one. My LMS runs on a QNAP which does have a manually configured IP (could be reserved) but all the SB players are DHCP. I have never had to use a manually configured static IP on any of my SB players - I haven't got a Duet or Transporter but do have at least one of all others and have never come across any issue with the DHCP client - what is the problem with it? QNAP TS419P 4TB LMS7.7.2 *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - > Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser HDR 130 *Office* - SB3 -> Sony TA FE320 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100787 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
