Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
eap wrote: In my experience, typical bedside alarm clocks (clock radios) are plugged in. If the power is out for the house, no alarm goes off. Typical clocks? That is absolutely not true at all. Typical alarm clocks have a battery backup, even the cheapest ones you can find at Wallyworld. I have an old Sony Dream Machine radio from the mid-90's that doesn't even have a battery. It charges up an internal capacitor to store a charge and it works flawlessly with no power to it. Still use it to this day. buffettck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Tony T wrote: As of 7.5.1 r8837 the SBRadio with a battery will sound the backup alarm during a power outage. If the Radio shut-down to conserve the battery, it will 'wake up' 5 minutes before the scheduled alarm and if not connected to a server, the internal backup alarm will sound. I can confirm that. Did test that and it worked liked described. Nice! :) axel112's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Tony T wrote: As of 7.5.1 r8837 the SBRadio with a battery will sound the backup alarm during a power outage. If the Radio shut-down to conserve the battery, it will 'wake up' 5 minutes before the scheduled alarm and if not connected to a server, the internal backup alarm will sound. That sounds quite nice. Hmm... Need to manually test this, this weekend. axel112's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
After 30 mins. But if power comes back before then I think you are fine. I didn't have any alarms active so I don't know if that affects things. CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Office), Radio (with battery) *Server:* 7.5.0 for Windows Home Server (HP EX-490 MediaSmart Server) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8.1 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.4.6 | Custom Scan 2.7.4 | TrackStat 2.10 | Album Review 2.9.0 | Biography 2.9.0 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) *Music: *'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/chunkywizard) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Yes, this really is a shame (that and the fact I can't get a battery in Canada!) Maybe they would consider adding this functionality? It's only software after all. Some sort of toggle setting which says to keep the radio 'alive' if the power goes out but there is some charge remaining in the battery. -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Chunkywizard;523952 Wrote: After 30 mins. But if power comes back before then I think you are fine. Thats also working without a battery ? Is the radio really not going on at alarm time, when the power is gone for 4 hours or so ? -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Can anyone with a battery confirm (or refute) that the radio will completely shutdown if the power goes out? Thanks! -- notwired notwired's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
notwired;522103 Wrote: You sure about that Tony? From this link; http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Radio_Battery#Battery_Care \AN IDLE BATTERY-POWERED RADIO WILL AUTOMATICALLY TURN ITSELF OFF AFTER 20 MINUTES TO CONSERVE BATTERY CHARGE.\ Me thinks this sort of negates the purpose of having a battery!! My wife was planning on using this as our main bedroom alarm but she can't risk no alarm in the morning. Can any of you battery users confirm this? TIA Good question. Does the software treat a radio with an alarm set to go off as idle? -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
ALTHOUGH, I believe if you plug-in a radio which is turned OFF it will turn ON- at least that's been my experience. So my expectation is that if your Radio is plugged in and you lose power, that after 20 minutes it may turn OFF to conserve battery, but then if power is restored it will turn back on. -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
mpower9;520004 Wrote: I couldn't find anything like that under Settings/Audio. I am running 7.4.2 which I just downloaded. Look harder ;-D It's actually Settings/Audio/Settings/Sound Effects HTH CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen), Radio *Server:* 7.4.2 for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8.1 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.4.6 | Custom Scan 2.7.4 | TrackStat 2.10 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) *Music: *'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/chunkywizard) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
mpower9;519707 Wrote: Three cheers for reliable radio. But what if your power was still out when you needed to be awaken by the SB Radio? Not what I would call reliable. We will need to buy the battery option for the SB Radio to be reliable as an alarm. (Good news is that the 7.4.2 software update fixed the problem of the backup sound not working if the network is down). -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Tony T;520455 Wrote: But what if your power was still out when you needed to be awaken by the SB Radio? Not what I would call reliable. We will need to buy the battery option for the SB Radio to be reliable as an alarm. (Good news is that the 7.4.2 software update fixed the problem of the backup sound not working if the network is down). In my experience, typical bedside alarm clocks (clock radios) are plugged in. If the power is out for the house, no alarm goes off. The SB radio is not really different in that way. However, I've found SB radio to be better than my old clock radio, which would revert to blinking 12:00 AM after power was restored (and the alarm time would revert to 1:00 AM). So then I would manually have to reset the time and the alarm time. Now, if power goes off and then back on in the middle of the night, my PC reboots automatically, squeezebox server starts when my PC boots, and my SB radio then displays the correct time and the alarm fires as previously set. Much better than before. -- eap eap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Chunkywizard;520450 Wrote: Look harder ;-D It's actually Settings/Audio/Settings/Sound Effects HTH CW That affects the volume level for ALL sound effects, not just the boot music. -- eap eap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
eap;520461 Wrote: That affects the volume level for ALL sound effects, not just the boot music. Adjusting Sound Effects Volume is universal, however you can select which sound effects are active and which are not. ex: you can turn OFF sound effects for Navigation (intro music and menu *bleeps*), but turn ON sound effects for Charging etc... -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
eap;520459 Wrote: In my experience, typical bedside alarm clocks (clock radios) are plugged in. If the power is out for the house, no alarm goes off. The SB radio is not really different in that way. Nope, my Bose has a 9v battery that is used for a wakeup 'beep' during a power loss. Many inexpensive alarm clocks also have this. -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
eap;520566 Wrote: Well if the power is out in the morning there is no hot water for a shower. So who needs to wake up ; ) Good point :-) -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Tony T;520558 Wrote: Nope, my Bose has a 9v battery that is used for a wakeup 'beep' during a power loss. Many inexpensive alarm clocks also have this. (and as soon as I get the battery pack option, so will my SB Radio!) Well if the power is out in the morning there is no hot water for a shower. So who needs to wake up ; ) -- eap eap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Chunkywizard;519731 Wrote: You can turn off the boot sound. IIRC it's under the Settings/Audio HTH CW Thanks, Chunkywizard. My problem was that I did not know which of the choices actually turned the boot sound off. None of them sounded particularly applicable. I ended up trying them all. Disabling the sound for Charging turned out to do the job (who knew?). However, now that I have ordered the battery pack, I hope that rebooting for power loss will no longer be a problem, nor will all the other alarm unreliability variables. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Problems with alarm you will have, when the network or server is unreliable. Say that your router didn't properly reboot after a power outage, or the radio is faster booting than your router not getting a proper IP ... You were just lucky I'd say that in your circumstances you didn't face problems. -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
Chunkywizard;519731 Wrote: You can turn off the boot sound. IIRC it's under the Settings/Audio HTH CW I couldn't find anything like that under Settings/Audio. I am running 7.4.2 which I just downloaded. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
bluegaspode;519740 Wrote: You were just lucky I'd say that in your circumstances you didn't face problems. When it is really important for me to absolutely get up at a certain time. I set the alarm on my cell phone and my GPS and my travel alarm clock in hopes that at least one of them will not malfunction. As for the Squeezebox Radio, I find that its eccentricities are endearing. If to err is human, there is nothing more human than this little radio. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
There has been much commentary about the unreliability of the alarm function so I just thought I would report. Last night while I was asleep the power went out at my house (I know because when I got up all the electronic clocks in the house had to be reset.) Since my radio (FW 7.4.1) has no battery back up, it also lost power. As soon as the power came back on, it booted up. (How do I know? It gave a triumphant doddle-dee-do-dee-do that woke me up in the middle of the night. That, I could have done without. In my befuddled state, I did not realize the power had been out, I just thought it was the Radio exhibiting of some of its famous bugginess.) In the morning, you will be delighted to know, the alarm went off exactly as expected. Three cheers for reliable radio. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power Outage and Alarm Reliability
You can turn off the boot sound. IIRC it's under the Settings/Audio HTH CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen), Radio *Server:* 7.4.2 for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.8.1 | SQL Playlist 2.5 | Music Information Screen 4.4.6 | Custom Scan 2.7.4 | TrackStat 2.10 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) *Music: *'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/chunkywizard) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75559 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
