[SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-08 Thread simsboard

just received my radio a few minutes ago but had a very big surprise as
I noticed that I have to upgrade my slimcenter from 7.3 to 7.4?! 
I thought I just need to upgrade if I want to use the services from
mysqueezebox.com?

slimcenter is running on my (in the meantime) old QNAP TS101 where
version 7.4 does not seem to be suppored so far

any hints how I can force my radio to live with version 7.3.3?
thanks!
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-08 Thread Michael Herger
> I noticed that I have to upgrade my slimcenter from 7.3 to 7.4?!

That's correct.

> I thought I just need to upgrade if I want to use the services from
> mysqueezebox.com?

You only need to upgrade if you want to use more than only those services. You 
can use online radio, Last.FM, Rhapsody, etc. without upgrading. But if you 
want to play your local music you'll have to upgrade.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-08 Thread aubuti

I'm surprised that 7.4 is not mentioned anywhere in the System
Requirements for the SB Radio:
http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/products/squeezebox-radio.html#tab2 
It seems to me that a natural place to put that info would be with the
bullet that says -"For access to local music: 256MB RAM and 100MB hard
disk space"-


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-08 Thread toby10

Yeah, I assumed they were making the need for SBS7.4 known to buyers.
I have accidentally connected my Radio to SC7.3.3 a couple times, it
will "function" but not very well.  
Limited features (like local music as mentioned), screen issues, etc..
not an overall good experience.   :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-10 Thread RichieB

How did you manage to connect your Radio to SC 7.3.3 ? When I go to "My
Music" and select my NAS from the libraries list, it says "qnap-nas
needs to be updated to a newer version of the Squeezebox Server". 

The weird thing is that when I go to "Settings" -> "Choose Player" and
select my SB3, I can control the SB3 just fine (above UI issues apply),
but there is no sound from the Radio. :-( 

I upgraded SC to 7.3.4 but that didn't make any difference.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-10 Thread Dingsdada

Same problem here...
can't use my brand new radio - have 7.3.3 installed on my Synology
DS209+


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-10 Thread toby10

My SC7.3.3 is on a WinXP, that alone may be the difference, dunno.
I don't think SC can "grab" Radio via my SC UI, though I only tried
once long ago.
I've connected by accident by switching Radio back from MySB but
forgetting that SBS is not running so it goes to SC.
I've also accidentally chosen SC over SBS within "Switch Libraries"
where Radio sees both SC and SBS.
But, again, I would not suggest running Radio on SC.  It will be a very
buggy and sporadic experience.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-10 Thread bluegaspode

I tried if I could convince my radio to use a 7.3.3 server (which I
can't upgrade for the same reasons -> no update yet for my arm-based
linkstation).

The good news: it is possible (see below).
The bad news: I'm only able to play local music now (and in the 'now
playing'-screen the artwork is shown too big). internetradio isn't
working (as well as -of course- trying to use 'Apps'). 
I guess that's because SqueezeNetwork isn't working anymore
(mysqueezebox.com now) - I guess somewhere on the server the URL might
need to be changed as well.


So if local music is the only thing you need, you might try the
following:
- active remote access on the radio (Settings->Advanced-Remote Login)
- connect with a program like WinSCP (search the wiki for it)
- edit the file '/usr/share/jive/applets/ChooseMusicSourceApplet.lua'
(double click in WinSCP)
- around line 402 you will find a method 'selectServer' some line below
you will find the lines

Code:


if server:getVersion() and not server:isCompatible() then
--we only know if compatible if serverstatus has come back, 
other version will be nil, and we shouldn't assume not compatible
_serverVersionError(self, server)
return
end
  



You need to disable the lines in the middle, so changes them to look
like the following (see red markup):

Code:


if server:getVersion() and not server:isCompatible() then
--we only know if compatible if serverstatus has come back, 
other version will be nil, and we shouldn't assume not compatible
*--*_serverVersionError(self, server)
*--*return
end
  



- save the file and restart radio

Of course I don't know what else might not be working.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-10 Thread bluegaspode

Have to correct myself: on my 7.3.3 server I didn't have the corrent
MySB-username+password.
Now all radio stations turn up again, some radio stations are even
playing. 
Don't know why others don't play that don't give me problems with a
7.4.0-server.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-10 Thread simsboard

unfortunatly on my configuration it did not work - removed the line
using vi on the SBR, did a reboot and stopped the SBS7.4 on the
desktop-PC

the SBR tried then first to connect to the SBS 7.4 then it gave the
option to change to another server
I saw the SC 7.3.3 on my QNAP but unfortunatly it did not connect to
it

after some time it even did not find the SC 7.3.3 any more :-( and each
time I tried to search for another server the SBR started to make very
strange things like: continue to play music even when I switched it
off,...

so thanks for hint but it looks as if I will have to wait for another
workaround!!
simsboard


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-10 Thread Amauta

I want to confirm that this worked with my Radio connected to Qnap
TS-119 server with SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 running. I can listen to the
music but not everything is working.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-10 Thread bluegaspode

simsboard;470202 Wrote: 
> removed the line using vi on the SBR
You are writing in singular.
You should've removed at least two lines (or prefix them with '--') for
it to work.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-11 Thread bluegaspode

Some results of my investigation of playing radiostations (I'm testing
with radio-stations from World->Europe->Germany->Berlin):

RadioStreams with mp3-format play well on Radio connected to 7.3.3
server (Star FM,
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s8041&partnerId=16)
RadioStreams with Windows-Media format don't play on radio connected to
7.3.3 server (RBB Radio Eins,
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s25111&partnerId=16)

Radio can play both streams when connected directly to MySqueezebox.com
.

I tried the same with my 7.3.3-Controller connected to 7.3.3 server.
When the Controller is selected as Player (thus Jive) I get the same
behaviour (mp3-streams playing, Windows Media not).
When the receiver is selected as Player it can play both streams.


So I assume that a 7.4 server does something to the Windows Media
Stream, that Jive (Radio or 7.4-Controller) can play them.
Maybe the receiver has some built-in decoder to play those streams even
with a 7.3 server ?

Micheal, can you share some light on this ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-12 Thread simsboard

thanks bluegaspode for your hints!
now it seems to run on my radio as well :-) 
at least I was albe to connect to my Qnap TS101 running 7.3.3 
didn't test too much so far but this was I think already the most
important step :-)

regards!
simsboard


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio using SlimCenter 7.3.3?

2009-10-16 Thread akleineidam

I run the squeezebox on a ReadyNAS where not 7.4 is available yet, the
provided hack works for me, many thanx !


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