[RBW] Re: cable splitters/bar quick change question

2009-01-25 Thread Angus

Seth,

I have a set of the cable spiltters on my Rivendell All-Rounder and a
set on a Santana Tandem; both bikes have SS couplers.  The cable
spiltters work well, the only thing I have had to do is start
replacing some of the black o-rings after 5-10 years.

The spillter for the brake cable is a bit larger than the derailleur
cable splitters.

Angus

On Jan 24, 8:39 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
  I bought an atlantis frame/fork today. I'm now working on getting all
 the parts together to bring it whole. I've found that I enjoy riding
 with both albatross bars and drops.  Just for different types of
 riding. I would like to be able to swap between the two without an
 enormous amount of work.

 So I was looking around at various places about ss coupled bikes and
 I found these:http://www.sandsmachine.com/ac_cable.htm

 I was wondering if anyone had any experience with any of these and
 thought they'd be worth a try?

 I'm willing to have two stems, different levers and shifters, if it
 means being able to unhook the cables, unhook the front brake
 straddle, unbolt the stem and swap to the other bars and be ready to
 go.

 Has anyone done this? Will I run into other problems?

 Thanks,
 -sv
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[RBW] Re: Bicycle Valet at Obama Inauguration 2009

2009-01-25 Thread Bob

Yes indeed!  I put up a few video on Qik of some erily deserted DC
streets and bridges.  I was just tooling around, alone on some major
thoroughfares, in the middle of the day.  I stopped several times to
make photos, and all I could hear was wind. Wild.

Then I pedaled back across Chain Bridge into my VA neighborhood, and
it was back to reality . . .

Bob

On Jan 21, 6:35 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was at the inauguration and it seemed afterwards, depending on where
 you were headed, it was a great day to be on a bike in DC with so many
 streets closed to cars. The vibe in DC was amazing. Everyone was in
 high spririts and so gracious. Sounds like the bike parking went
 smooth, I wish I could say as much for getting into the inauguration,
 what a nightmare. But it was worth it. Now back to Portland and my
 bicycles.

 --mike

 On Jan 21, 4:40 am, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertlinthicum/3213101340/

  I rode down to watch our new president sworn into office. WABA
  volunteers did a great job of encouraging bicycling to the
  Inauguration.
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[RBW] Re: If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?

2009-01-25 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:


 This is like the philosophical question that led to me abandoning
 bicycle discussion boards for a couple years starting around 2004. The
 OP of that particular discussion asked if his acquisition of an
 Atlantis or Rambouillet justified his referring to himself as a
 Rivendell Owner. Some owners of custom Rivendells decided that the
 word Rivendell had too much cachet for owners of lowly and
 compromised Atlantises and Rambouillets. By that standard, your
 Rambouillet doesn't qualify as a Rivendell even in its pristine state.
 So you have nothing to lose, cachet-wise, by re-raking the fork.


I usually hate email abbreviations, but in this case, ROTFLOL, or even
better, ROTFFLOL!!

Lessee, lessee, less take this idea and move forward with it. OK, my Rivs
are customs, so they're real Rivs; well, at least the last two, for the
first one was built by Waterford, not a Rivendell owned builder chained
whimpering to his alignment table with Grant standing over him with a whip.
But, OTOH (alright, I'll stop), they have smallish frames for my height and
leg length and they use substandard wheels (559/571). So once again, are
they genyoowine Rivs? And #3 was modified by local builder Dave Porter for
fixed use. Does that make it recede from the dim, shimmering, ethereal ideal
of Rivendellishness?

If I use MKS (Keirin approved!!!) track pedals on my commuter Riv, but lowly
Christophe straps and Kucharik toe covers, do I augment or diminish my
Rivendellishness? Must I subtract points for every cm the bar is below
saddle? And Flites instead of Brookses ... come now!

We could carry on this thread for a decade! I say, let's have a contest to
see who can pare down the concept, Genyoowine Riv Ownership to the
smallest population. What fun!

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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

2009-01-25 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:11 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Hi Patrick,

 It is in the 'single speed garage' section and is bike #91.  You'll
 have to click on the most updated version. It is also featured on the
 left column of the page about the second one down or so. I think I
 have this right. Let me know what you think. I am planning on
 converting another lugged steel frame made for these parts until I can
 afford a QB.


http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2007/ssg091-charlesvail0607.html

That's rather nice. It looks much like my Technium (sold a few years ago)
except mine was red and black and may have had longer stays; at least I had
no problem with panniers and size 10 shoes. I shod mine with some 35 mm
white fatties for a very nice, cush ride. Wish I'd kept it.

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[RBW] Re: Where does name A. Homer Hilsen come from?

2009-01-25 Thread Todd Olsen

Keven, at Riv, did originally suggest the Pasela.  I liked the idea of
the lighter Jack Brown Green.  Riv does not suggest the Greens for off
road, but they do mention that at least one of their own uses them
quite a bit off road.  I have become very good at taking care of flat
tires, spare tube, patch kit (does everybody know you can buy
additional patches for the patch kit?  i am probably one of the few
who ran out of patches before the glue dried up).  I commute 12.5
miles to work, and once got a flat on the way there and another on the
way home.  Only once have I removed an offending thorn.  It is
possible that some of those flats were the same object (a thorn not
found), but I am careful to run my bare hand around both the rim and
inside of the tire.  All except for one were on the rear tire.  Many
were after a recent series of storms, so there was extra plant
material on the road.  All have been on the outside edge of the tube,
none at the stem.  Once or twice, I was able to see, hear, and feel a
small leaking hole on the tread surface of the tire.  Most likely this
is just bad luck, but if/when I get to make the decision again, I will
probably go with the Jack Brown Blue or the Pasela.

Thanks for the suggestion on the tube.  I will check to be sure I have
tubes for the 33.  Every time I patch, of course, the probability of
getting another flat should decrease, because next time the thorn may
be trying to find its way through a patch.

Todd

On Jan 24, 11:08 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 1/24/09 6:10 PM, Todd Olsen at todd_ol...@comcast.net wrote:

  I got the Jack Brown Greens, but when those wear out, I will probably
  get something a little thicker, Pasela, because i have gotten too many
  flats (6-7 in only 350 miles).

 I know better than to reply to this directly, but I have thisfriend...
 who got JB Greens on his Hilsen in September of 2007, has run them on all
 sorts of conditions and now runs them on his Quickbeam.  He cannot recall
 having those flats.

 As always, YMMV with flats.  But, I would recommend checking your tubes.  If
 you have tubes from smaller size (23 - 28 mm's), I've found those to be a
 bit more susceptible to flats (especially pinch-type) than a larger tube.
 That does seem like a lot of flats in a short distance - rim tape ok? no
 burrs at the valve hole?



  Also, if you think you might ride off road a bit, consider 172.5 or
  170 crank rather than 175.  I bang my pedals into rocks and the side
  of the trail quite a bit, and perhaps a little shorter crank will be a
  little safer.  or maybe i should just pay attention a little better.

 I thought the stock Sugino cranks were 170's.  That's what came on mine. I'm
 now running 172.5's in C. Xavier Hilsen mode.  I bang them less often than
 will my earlier Lemond cross frame.   It does take a ride or two to
 recalibrate foot position.

 - Jim

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[RBW] Re: Where does name A. Homer Hilsen come from?

2009-01-25 Thread David Estes
Your LBS should have extra patches in bulk they can sell... get Rema if you
have the choice.  They seem the best to me.  If they don't have them, you
can buy a 100 count box on the interwebs.

DE

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Todd Olsen todd_ol...@comcast.net wrote:


 Keven, at Riv, did originally suggest the Pasela.  I liked the idea of
 the lighter Jack Brown Green.  Riv does not suggest the Greens for off
 road, but they do mention that at least one of their own uses them
 quite a bit off road.  I have become very good at taking care of flat
 tires, spare tube, patch kit (does everybody know you can buy
 additional patches for the patch kit?  i am probably one of the few
 who ran out of patches before the glue dried up).  I commute 12.5
 miles to work, and once got a flat on the way there and another on the
 way home.  Only once have I removed an offending thorn.  It is
 possible that some of those flats were the same object (a thorn not
 found), but I am careful to run my bare hand around both the rim and
 inside of the tire.  All except for one were on the rear tire.  Many
 were after a recent series of storms, so there was extra plant
 material on the road.  All have been on the outside edge of the tube,
 none at the stem.  Once or twice, I was able to see, hear, and feel a
 small leaking hole on the tread surface of the tire.  Most likely this
 is just bad luck, but if/when I get to make the decision again, I will
 probably go with the Jack Brown Blue or the Pasela.

 Thanks for the suggestion on the tube.  I will check to be sure I have
 tubes for the 33.  Every time I patch, of course, the probability of
 getting another flat should decrease, because next time the thorn may
 be trying to find its way through a patch.

 Todd

 On Jan 24, 11:08 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
  on 1/24/09 6:10 PM, Todd Olsen at todd_ol...@comcast.net wrote:
 
   I got the Jack Brown Greens, but when those wear out, I will probably
   get something a little thicker, Pasela, because i have gotten too many
   flats (6-7 in only 350 miles).
 
  I know better than to reply to this directly, but I have
 thisfriend...
  who got JB Greens on his Hilsen in September of 2007, has run them on all
  sorts of conditions and now runs them on his Quickbeam.  He cannot recall
  having those flats.
 
  As always, YMMV with flats.  But, I would recommend checking your tubes.
  If
  you have tubes from smaller size (23 - 28 mm's), I've found those to be a
  bit more susceptible to flats (especially pinch-type) than a larger tube.
  That does seem like a lot of flats in a short distance - rim tape ok? no
  burrs at the valve hole?
 
 
 
   Also, if you think you might ride off road a bit, consider 172.5 or
   170 crank rather than 175.  I bang my pedals into rocks and the side
   of the trail quite a bit, and perhaps a little shorter crank will be a
   little safer.  or maybe i should just pay attention a little better.
 
  I thought the stock Sugino cranks were 170's.  That's what came on mine.
 I'm
  now running 172.5's in C. Xavier Hilsen mode.  I bang them less often
 than
  will my earlier Lemond cross frame.   It does take a ride or two to
  recalibrate foot position.
 
  - Jim
 
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  cyclofi...@earthlink.net
 
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 mice.
  They still have bodies that can walk for five days and four nights
 through a
  desert of snow, without food, but they accept praise for having taken a
  one-hour bicycle ride.²  - Tim Krabbe, The Rider
 
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[RBW] Re: Where does name A. Homer Hilsen come from?

2009-01-25 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 08:12 -0800, Todd Olsen wrote:

 It is possible that some of those flats were the same object (a thorn not
 found), but I am careful to run my bare hand around both the rim and
 inside of the tire.

Cotton balls are really good for this.  Not only to they catch easily,
but also when they do they don't puncture your skin, and cotton fluff is
a lot easier to clean up than blood.

8=)





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[RBW] Re: Where does name A. Homer Hilsen come from?

2009-01-25 Thread James Warren

Actually, the friend that Jim Edgar was referring to was me, but he 
missed the details a bit. It was since October 2007 and the JB Green 
tires were moved over to an Atlantis, not a Quickbeam.

But since Jim was kind enough to help me avoid the jinx, I'll do him 
the same favor: I know for a fact that he hasn't had a flat on his JB 
Greens and was using them since September 2007 on his Hilsen and now 
has them on his Quickbeam.

-James, another lucky one

p.s. I ride mine on fire trails quite a bit.

On Jan 24, 2009, at 11:08 PM, CycloFiend wrote:


 on 1/24/09 6:10 PM, Todd Olsen at todd_ol...@comcast.net wrote:

 I got the Jack Brown Greens, but when those wear out, I will probably
 get something a little thicker, Pasela, because i have gotten too many
 flats (6-7 in only 350 miles).

 I know better than to reply to this directly, but I have 
 thisfriend...
 who got JB Greens on his Hilsen in September of 2007, has run them on 
 all
 sorts of conditions and now runs them on his Quickbeam.  He cannot 
 recall
 having those flats.

 As always, YMMV with flats.  But, I would recommend checking your 
 tubes.  If
 you have tubes from smaller size (23 - 28 mm's), I've found those to 
 be a
 bit more susceptible to flats (especially pinch-type) than a larger 
 tube.
 That does seem like a lot of flats in a short distance - rim tape ok? 
 no
 burrs at the valve hole?


 Also, if you think you might ride off road a bit, consider 172.5 or
 170 crank rather than 175.  I bang my pedals into rocks and the side
 of the trail quite a bit, and perhaps a little shorter crank will be a
 little safer.  or maybe i should just pay attention a little better.

 I thought the stock Sugino cranks were 170's.  That's what came on 
 mine. I'm
 now running 172.5's in C. Xavier Hilsen mode.  I bang them less often 
 than
 will my earlier Lemond cross frame.   It does take a ride or two to
 recalibrate foot position.

 - Jim

 -- 
 Jim Edgar
 cyclofi...@earthlink.net

 “Velvet pillows, safari parks, sunglasses: people have become woolly 
 mice.
 They still have bodies that can walk for five days and four nights 
 through a
 desert of snow, without food, but they accept praise for having taken a
 one-hour bicycle ride.”  - Tim Krabbe, The Rider

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[RBW] Rivendell vs. Bridgestone sizing

2009-01-25 Thread rcnute

Certainly the geometries are freely available, but I was curious to
hear about folks' experiences in comparing the sizes.  Would a general
rule of thumb to go, say, a size down, or keep it the same?  All this
talk about RB-1s, etc. is causing me to consider getting into the
hunt.  Thanks.

Ryan
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates

2009-01-25 Thread JL

I just checked their flicker promos.  the dropouts look nice - I like
the double eyelets and canti brakes too. anyone know if the Handsome
xo style bikes only come in 700c?  That makes sense in some size
ranges but 26 like the bridgestone xo is great for us smaller
people.  Where are they made? paint or powder finish?



On Jan 24, 9:45 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
 Plain gauge steel tubes, AFAIK.

 Great promo photography on their Flicks site, though.  Particuarly the
 tall blonde astride a Handsome bike with a six pack of Stella Artois
 on the front rack...

 On Jan 24, 12:41 pm, Kelly kingtw...@gmail.com wrote:

  By the way I've heard rumblings of a company named Handsome Cycles
  that's coming out with a XO-1 ish bike.  The frameset is supposed to
  sell for $379.  Its steel with a TIG welded frame and a lugged fork.
  I don't know too much about the company because it's new and I'm not
  sure how much of a go-fast bike it would be, but it's out there.
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

2009-01-25 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:32 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

 The
 overall effect is that with a limited gear bike you use up your energy
 climbing a higher than normal gear (faster) instead of hammering along
 on the flats and gearing down on the climbs.
 I am not sure how to label it other than to say I use my energy
 differently.


Amen to that, plus you strategize your efforts much more, in other simpler
words, you plan ahead. This, to me, is a large part of the fun of single
speeding (in my case, mostly fixed).

I tried a 60 gear fixed off road for a while, but found the (steeper than
road) downhills supremely annoying, and -- with the 175s on it at the time
-- found myself flailing angrily and futiley on the flats, so I bumped it up
to 64-65 and it was fine. I think given my predilection for mashing, that a
65 gear on road ought to serve me as a 60 gear does you. Thanks for the
feedback, that helps me learn what low gear to start with.

My Technium was certainly not a high end one, since, even with the aluminum
tubing, it was quite a heavyweight. And it had long stays (I ran 32s --
possibly even 35s, I can't remember, but certainly at least 32s; big white
tires -- with fenders). It would have made a wonderful QB surrogate and I'm
sorry now I sold it. Oh well.

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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

2009-01-25 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That's it. So, with a Cassette Cracker and a chain tool and extra chain (or,
just a bunch of masterlinks, I could carry what, a dozen cogs with me and
have a fixed gear with any ratio I wanted.

Sounds like a lot of work!

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

   *[dougpnirv] *Patrick wrote:


 Of which thinking: back in the Uniglide days, when lockrings were screw on
 small cogs, someone made a portable device for touring kits that allowed you
 to use the wheel and frame themselves as levers to remove the locking small
 cog.

 [dougpnirv]



 Patrick:



 The device you recall is called the Cassette Cracker, and they also made
 one for HG called the Hyper Cracker, on the same principle.  Never go on
 tour without one; it's my good luck totem against broken drive side spokes.



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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

2009-01-25 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:


 56 for long rides for me.  I like comfortable climbing and the
 challenge of developing my spin to go faster on the flats.  It's also
 a gear that I can keep pedaling after 90-100 hilly miles.


Y'known, after telling Charlie that I think I ought to gear down to 65,
perhaps 60 might be a better gear. If I ever do my first (and it will be
fixed) century, I'll be sure to have a 60 gear available, along with a 50
for climbing (that might require the Cassette Cracker and masterlinks) and
a, say, 65 or 70.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell vs. Bridgestone sizing

2009-01-25 Thread Aaron Thomas

I am not sure how Bridgestones were intended to be sized/fitted. But I
have a 56 c-t (54 c-c) RB-2 and a 57 c-t Romulus. Both have 56.5 top
tubes according to published specs and they fit similarly.

You'd might want to go by the top tube lengths rather than seat tube
lengths.

On Jan 25, 11:51 am, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Certainly the geometries are freely available, but I was curious to
 hear about folks' experiences in comparing the sizes.  Would a general
 rule of thumb to go, say, a size down, or keep it the same?  All this
 talk about RB-1s, etc. is causing me to consider getting into the
 hunt.  Thanks.

 Ryan
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[RBW] Re: cable splitters/bar quick change question

2009-01-25 Thread Seth Vidal

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
  I bought an atlantis frame/fork today. I'm now working on getting all
 the parts together to bring it whole. I've found that I enjoy riding
 with both albatross bars and drops.  Just for different types of
 riding. I would like to be able to swap between the two without an
 enormous amount of work.

 So I was looking around at various places about ss coupled bikes and
 I found these:
 http://www.sandsmachine.com/ac_cable.htm

 I was wondering if anyone had any experience with any of these and
 thought they'd be worth a try?

 I'm willing to have two stems, different levers and shifters, if it
 means being able to unhook the cables, unhook the front brake
 straddle, unbolt the stem and swap to the other bars and be ready to
 go.

 Has anyone done this? Will I run into other problems?


Looks like I found an answer:

http://perrybessas.com/vf-archives/mirror/?p=14

I think I'll be giving this a try.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: cable splitters/bar quick change question

2009-01-25 Thread Steven Sweedler
I have the Ritchey splitters on my coupled touring bike and they work well,
no problems so far.  Steve
Plymouth, New Hampshire where tomorrows commute is forecast be 0 F

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:43 PM, revnine revn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Those splitters look like something I could use!  Anyone have a retail/
  online source for ordering them?
 

 It looks like ritchey makes some, too. qbp stocks them.

 -sv

 


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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

2009-01-25 Thread charlie

Yea.I haven't tried a fixie yet and prefer the ability to
coast the downhills. I might like a fixed gear and as I understand
them, you can get away with a taller gear due to the inertia effect of
the pedals turning constantly. If I were about 75 pounds lighter and
20 years younger I might try riding a fixed gear in the 70 ish range
as many do. I think a low 60's fixed gear might be somewhat exhausting
for anything over 10 miles. I like the fact that coasting my single
speed lets my legs recover and spinning the flats and rolling hills is
just relaxing. I really have to work at climbing however as I cannot
stand due to a bad left knee/hamstring injury. It buckles on me and
going down stairs isn't too solid two years after the initial injury.
Guess I should have a surgeon take a look at it...!  These days I
pick my routes and the bike I use for them and try not to overstress
my knees. Bicycling is becoming more of a transportation method for me
and I am finding I can go farther with less effort if I take it down a
notch or two. I'm not 'car less' just 'income light' these days.
Its interesting that you mention your 'extra bag of gears', I actually
thought about doing the STP with a single speed and taking an extra
chain/freewheel set plus tools if I needed a tall tailwind gear or a
super low gear for part of the route. It starts sounding a little
nutty after a while but its different and that makes it fun for me.

On Jan 25, 12:53 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:32 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

  The
  overall effect is that with a limited gear bike you use up your energy
  climbing a higher than normal gear (faster) instead of hammering along
  on the flats and gearing down on the climbs.
  I am not sure how to label it other than to say I use my energy
  differently.

 Amen to that, plus you strategize your efforts much more, in other simpler
 words, you plan ahead. This, to me, is a large part of the fun of single
 speeding (in my case, mostly fixed).

 I tried a 60 gear fixed off road for a while, but found the (steeper than
 road) downhills supremely annoying, and -- with the 175s on it at the time
 -- found myself flailing angrily and futiley on the flats, so I bumped it up
 to 64-65 and it was fine. I think given my predilection for mashing, that a
 65 gear on road ought to serve me as a 60 gear does you. Thanks for the
 feedback, that helps me learn what low gear to start with.

 My Technium was certainly not a high end one, since, even with the aluminum
 tubing, it was quite a heavyweight. And it had long stays (I ran 32s --
 possibly even 35s, I can't remember, but certainly at least 32s; big white
 tires -- with fenders). It would have made a wonderful QB surrogate and I'm
 sorry now I sold it. Oh well.
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[RBW] Re: cable splitters/bar quick change question

2009-01-25 Thread Lynne Fitz

I've got whichever cable splitters it is that Bilenky sells.  Going on
two years, no problems.  No splitting/fraying, and I have yet to have
to adjust anything when I put the bike back together.

Lynne F

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell vs. Bridgestone sizing

2009-01-25 Thread Doug Peterson

Harris has the old B'stone catalogs on their site.  I've skimmed it 
there's some geometry info  sizing articles.  Sheldon scanned them in 04.

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell vs. Bridgestone sizing


I am not sure how Bridgestones were intended to be sized/fitted. But I
have a 56 c-t (54 c-c) RB-2 and a 57 c-t Romulus. Both have 56.5 top
tubes according to published specs and they fit similarly.

You'd might want to go by the top tube lengths rather than seat tube
lengths.

On Jan 25, 11:51 am, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Certainly the geometries are freely available, but I was curious to
 hear about folks' experiences in comparing the sizes.  Would a general
 rule of thumb to go, say, a size down, or keep it the same?  All this
 talk about RB-1s, etc. is causing me to consider getting into the
 hunt.  Thanks.

 Ryan




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[RBW] Stuff for Sale, Mostly Riv: Nitto, Brooks, Wald, etc.

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Halasz

Mark's Nitto Rack, missing the shorter struts, as shown $60
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1page=all#product=20-108

Brooks B.17 Special w/ Copper rails and rivets $75
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/saddles_and_seat_posts#product=11-006

Nitto Technomic 8cm Stem 22.2mm, 26.0mm used $25

Nitto Ritchey Force Stem from a Bridgestone XO-1, 25.4mm 120mm X 30cm
degree (almost a 100mm reach) used $40

Nitto B115 45cm Drop bars Used $20

Wald Metal Baskets from Rivendell  One Medium, one large, like new,
$12.50 each
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1page=all#product=20-102

Rivendell Reader #40 early 2008, $5

Basket Net with 4 red hooks. $5.00
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks?a=1page=all#product=20-100

Stuff not from Riv; hope this is OK (folks may be interested)

Soma Smoothie 58cm; like new, tiny tiny paint scratch, with Carbon
fork and aluminum seatpost $350

Brooks Leather Bar Tape Not at all like new, $10

RM Handlebar Light Mount from PJW Cycles Like new, mounted, never
used $10
http://peterwhitecycles.com/light-mounts.asp#rmhandlebar

Bicycle Quarterly Volume 6 #3 (spring 2008), Summer 2008, Fall 2008,
Winter 2008 $25 for all

Dia-compe Aero Brake Levers well used, scratched $10

Shimano Nexus BR-R500 Long Reach 57-75mm Caliper Brake $10

Cyclo-Cross Training and Technique Book by Simon Burney $5

Suntour XC Seatpost 27.2 about 300mm long $25.00

Dura Ace Freehub 126mm used $10

Shimano 5 speed free wheel 139B 60 SH-FW5 14X28 new $5 ea (2
available)

Acor Aheadset Stem 1 diameter, 130mm extention New $10

Titec Hellbent Handlebars with bar ends $15

Trans it Seatpost Rack used $15

Prices do not include shipping, just want to be fair and just cover my
cost, and  ... Please try to combine items; would like to ship minimum
amounts of $20
Paypal works best for us if possible.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell vs. Bridgestone sizing

2009-01-25 Thread Bill M.

The RB1 is a traditional road racing bike.  You could try the on-line
bike fit program at www.competitivecyclist.com for a guess at a
racing / sporting fit.  It returns three different recommendations,
which they call the Competitive, Eddy and French fits.  Here are my
dimensions as measured by my wife, and their recommendations:

Measurements
---
Inseam:84
Trunk: 62.5
Forearm:   36.5
Arm:   67
Thigh: 60
Lower Leg: 54
Sternal Notch: 147
Total Body Height: 174


The Competitive Fit (cm)
---
Seat tube range c-c:   54.4 - 54.9
Seat tube range c-t:   56.1 - 56.6
Top tube length:   55.1 - 55.5
Stem Length:   11.2 - 11.8
BB-Saddle Position:71.9 - 73.9
Saddle-Handlebar:  54.1 - 54.7
Saddle Setback:5.5 - 5.9


The Eddy Fit (cm)
---
Seat tube range c-c:   55.6 - 56.1
Seat tube range c-t:   57.3 - 57.8
Top tube length:   55.1 - 55.5
Stem Length:   10.1 - 10.7
BB-Saddle Position:71.1 - 73.1
Saddle-Handlebar:  54.9 - 55.5
Saddle Setback:6.7 - 7.1


The French Fit (cm)
---
Seat tube range c-c:   57.3 - 57.8
Seat tube range c-t:   59.0 - 59.5
Top tube length:   56.3 - 56.7
Stem Length:   10.3 - 10.9
BB-Saddle Position:69.4 - 71.4
Saddle-Handlebar:  56.6 - 57.2
Saddle Setback:6.2 - 6.6


For comparison, Grant would put me on a 59 AHH, which has a 58 cm top
tube.  The Riv fit would probably have more setback, use a shorter
stem, and have the bars much higher.  The French fit isn't all that
far off.

IIRC, my 1991 RB1 was a 56, as is my '95 Riv Road which is the RB1's
most direct descendant.

Bill

On Jan 25, 11:51 am, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Certainly the geometries are freely available, but I was curious to
 hear about folks' experiences in comparing the sizes.  Would a general
 rule of thumb to go, say, a size down, or keep it the same?  All this
 talk about RB-1s, etc. is causing me to consider getting into the
 hunt.  Thanks.

 Ryan
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

2009-01-25 Thread Bill Rhea

I rode fixed on a 40x15 for some time, but found a 40x14 to be better
for my commute and rides up to around 30 miles.

Over the last 4 months I've switched back to freewheel mode, with a
16T White Industries freewheel and a 46T up front and no small ring -
I just didn't find myself using it.  A few of the rollers and short
climbs in Portola Valley and Woodside are a bit of a grind, but I
really like taking the QB out for pleasure, especially when its
spitting rain  Freewheeling is nice (compared to fixed) - it
really has introduced me to how well the bike corners.

-br

On Jan 24, 5:11 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:36 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I think the Quickbeam concept of a non derailleur or hub gearing
  system is appealing to many, myself included. It is simple and solves
  the problem of adequately handling varied terrain without too much
  convenience. I like the ability of making it a four speed for that
  occasional long steep climb up towards our local mountain or the
  ability to add a slightly higher ratio for a ride such as Seattle to
  Portland. When I get enough money together I would like a QB as my
  poor mans version of it is not ideal.
  The problem with just adding a three cog in the back is that you won't
  get the wider range of ratios that you would using that 32 tooth up
  front with perhaps a 22 tooth on the flip side or a fixed 14 tooth and
  the 40 tooth for flat rides. the neat thing is the QB allows one to
  set it up as they prefer for their type of terrain. If a guy has
  Charles 'Atlast' legs and an ideal power to weight ratio he can often
  get away with just one gear. An IG hub is nice but is still more
  complicated and fragile at least in one respect. For riding off road
  I'd rather have a freewheeling non derailleur setup. As a road
  commuter bike it would make more sense to have an internal HG  if your
  route was hilly. Most city commutes however are fairly flat so one
  gear seems enough unless it starts or ends flat or with a long section
  of climbing or high headwinds.  I just think the QB is kinda cool so I
  want one.
  My poor mans version exists atwww.cyclofiend.com

 Well put, except that your URL leads to an icon menu and not your particular
 bike.

 If I regularly rode more than 30 miles at a stretch, I'm sure I would, in my
 condition, be screaming for multiple gears. But still, if the QB allows an 8
 tooth gap in chainrings, it will allow an 8 tooth gap in cogs, and each
 tooth difference in your cogs will make much more of a ratio difference than
 a tooth dropped from or added to a chainring.

 This evening as I hauled a 15 lb load home from the grocery store on my 69
 fixed Riv commuter, up a 2 mile incline against a 3/4 headwind (NW gusts to
 21, I heading West then North), trying to approach 15 mph, the desirability
 of a lower gear option struck me with, you might say, a painful slap. But
 then I realized that all I had to do was pedal more slowly, so I backed off
 and let my speed slide down to a 10-13 mph slog that made things much
 easier. But of course, a 6 mile grocery run return leg is far from a loaded
 tour or even an all day hilly gravel run.

 Of which thinking: back in the Uniglide days, when lockrings were screw on
 small cogs, someone made a portable device for touring kits that allowed you
 to use the wheel and frame themselves as levers to remove the locking small
 cog. Would that not work for fixed cogs, too? Not that I'd care to use it
 for routine en-route gear changes, but I'm curious if it might work for
 roadside repairs for the fixed gear tourist.

 Another meandering thought: Mitch Harris of the Boblist and of much
 experience riding fixed gears said that old tourists in Britain routinely
 used 72-78 inch fixed gears for touring, which I suppose means, not carrying
 40 lb across the Sahara but a loaded Nelson from hostel to hostel. Still,
 78 seems pretty darn high for long distance riding, unless you are much
 younger than I am. What gears do y'all of longer distance fixed or ss riding
 (let's say 40 miles or more at a stretch) favor, and over what terrain?
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