[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted

[EricP]

Add yet another who likes that color.  Even checked it on two
different computer monitors.  But you have to satisfy yourself.

(First bag matching, now bike matching.  Oops.  Better not go there.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 25, 11:38�pm, Stephen  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/
>
> Hi there,
> I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned
> out. �Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache
> choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch),
> and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself
> that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think?
>
> ~Stephen
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[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?

[EricP]

Had a few compliments yesterday about my Atlantis.  There was a big
early season ride (Minnesota Ironman).  A couple of guys even knew
what kind of bike it was.  (And did see two Rambouillets.  In green.
If either of you are on the list "hi".)

Didn't see any old Italian bikes.  Although there were a few cool
bikes to see.  At least when not feeling sorry for myself for riding
in a thunderstorm with a strong headwind, lots of traffic and cold
temps. One bank thermometer about halfway through the ride read 42.
Oh, and a flat to top off the day.  (And still not positive on the
last.  The rear tire was squishy.  But not sure if there is an actual
leak or if a seam failed on the tube.  Will need to diagnose.  If the
latter, it'll be my third bad tube in less than a year.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 26, 6:05�pm, k5osx  wrote:
> This is my first year riding a road bike in decades; I've been
> participating in bike rallies in North Texas.
>
> I continue to be surprised at the number of folks who recognize a
> Rivendell. Every ride that I've been on, several folks have come up
> and said how nice the bike looks (particularly the lugs). In contrast,
> I'd be hard pressed to discern a Rivendell bike from 10 feet away.
>
> Yesterday, at the Germanfest rally in Muenster, however, someone
> sprang a new comment on me: "It is great to see an ancient bike being
> ridden in this rally... Is it Italian?" �He was surprised when I told
> him the bike wasn't even a year old, and designed in California.
>
> Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker
> shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;)
>
> robert
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[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted

[Angus]

Make that 21...I like it better than the Saluki color.

Angus

On Apr 27, 1:00 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 4/26/09 8:17 PM, Stephen at recycle...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Wow, thanks for all the feedback.  No one thinks its at all flat or
> > drab?  Without depth or interest?  I know its just a color, not a
> > personality...
>
> Strikes me as the kind of color you enjoy more each time you look at it.
>
>
>
> > I admit my opinion is clouded with dissapointment, just cause ive
> > lusted for a butterscotch Rivendell since i first saw one.  Years
> > later, i put in the order, wait a month, then get a call saying its
> > been painted wrong, and it cant be done right.  Im having a hard time
> > seeing the frame in its own context, i suppose. All that, and Grant
> > says he doesnt like it, which is hard to overcome.
>
> > After hearing what yall have to say about it, i might just go for
> > it... Though i never thought myself an Orange Bike Guy.  Thanks again
> > for the responses!
>
> For some reason, this reminds me of the scene in "Breaking Away" when Dave
> and his father are walking around the campus late in the evening, and Dave
> says something about being a Cutter.  His dad stops him and says, "You're
> not a 'Cutter.'  I'm a Cutter."
>
> Now, _this_ is an orange bike 
> -http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/3366640155
>
> Yours is one of a kind, my man! Revel in it! ;^)
>
> (And don't count this as #21... I already voted.)
>
> - Jim
>
> --
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> Current Classics - Cross Bikes
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>
> "You must be the change you want to see in the world."
>     Mahatma Gandhi
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[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?

[Scott G.]

> k5o...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Yesterday, at the Germanfest rally in Muenster, however,  someone
> sprang a new comment on me: "It is great to see an ancient bike  being
> ridden in this rally... Is it Italian?")

This sort of comment brings to mind the scene from the Untouchables.

Ness: [looking at a gold chain Malone is holding] What is that?
Malone: Ah, I'm among the heathen. That is my call box key, and
that... is my St. Jude medallion.
Ness: Saint who?
George Stone: Santo Jude. The patron saint of lost causes.
Malone: And policemen.
Ness: Well, which are we, gentlemen - policemen, or lost causes?

Scott G.
Riding amongst the heathen.
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[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted

[tdusky]

Ugly

Ugly

Ugly

Ugly

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Ugly

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Ugly wins, end of post,

Tom Dusky

On Apr 27, 6:20 am, EricP  wrote:
> Add yet another who likes that color.  Even checked it on two
> different computer monitors.  But you have to satisfy yourself.
>
> (First bag matching, now bike matching.  Oops.  Better not go there.)
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Apr 25, 11:38 pm, Stephen  wrote:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/
>
> > Hi there,
> > I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned
> > out. Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache
> > choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch),
> > and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself
> > that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think?
>
> > ~Stephen
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[RBW] Re: QB specs & so on

[usuk2007]

Any criticism of the QB comes from love. The worst attitude would be
indifference. There will always be things that we wish were slightly
different, but I'm glad that no bike is perfect because then there'd
be no reason to buy another one.

Yesterday was beautifully sunny and I polished up the orange QB. It
looked lovely and I stood there for a few minutes just admiring it.
Then I got on it and rode it.


On Apr 27, 12:23 am, charlie  wrote:
> Yaay! Grant, you rock regardless of the mild criticisms. What a great
> innovative bike your company offers to us. There is nothing quite like
> it. I'd take one in any color. After I pay for my daughters wedding, I
> may be able to save for one. I just obtained steady employment after
> six months of  declining self employment misery. If you ever do make a
> less expensive version from Taiwan I will surely make an effort to
> purchase even though I like the traditional frame design etc.  It must
> be hard to read the criticisms at times so I just want to tell you and
> your staff how much I appreciate your contributions to my enjoyment of
> the simple pleasure of riding a bicycle. Keep up the good work.
>
> On Apr 26, 8:59 pm, "gr...@rivbike.com" 
> wrote:
>
> > Silver's a nice color...it's never anybody's first pick..hardly ever,
> > at least, but I always thought silver bikes looked nice, and the guys
> > here think it's pretty striking. Some of us wanted to get one--being
> > the last of them, and silver and all, but we aren't allowed to (and we
> > all agree this is a good idea) "steal" bikes from customers.
> > The seat tube decal is a bit short, but there's a long story to that,
> > and I don' wanna tell it. It's neither fascinating nor boring. The
> > purplish blue goes well with the silver, I'd say, but I WOULD say,
> > wouldn't I?
> > We'd planned to make this the last run of QBs, and it may be that.
> > There are a few details that, while not "upgrades," are certainly not
> > "downgrades." I wish people would focus on these, rather than the font
> > (HELVETICA) in the panel. Good ol' Helvetica. Can't go wrong with it.
> >  The seat stays have a mid-stay barrel boss. The fork crown is fancy.
> > The rake is pretty darn good. The new brakes are super dupe. The rear
> > hub isn't a fixed-specific hub, and that might seem-2-some as a less
> > than hardcore choice, but you CAN run a fixed cog on it, especially on
> > a bike with brakes, and it'll never, ever come loose.
> > Putting together a bike like this, or any bike, to a large extent,
> > always going to be a "can't please everyone, so you got to please
> > yourself" proposition. Critics (and I use this word kindly--and not
> > defensively) tend to overlook the things they agree with, the things
> > they'd've done themselves, and harp on what they'd have done
> > differently. It's just the nature of things, and people.
> > I/we DID consider Sheldon-style dropouts, DID consider a der tab (not
> > that anybody complained about the lack of it), DID consider other rear
> > spacing...but ultimately opted this way. The QB has always been a
> > quite tweakable bike. It begs to be modified, but in its unmodified
> > form, is capable of a whole lot. Two-speed, fenderable, great
> > clearance, braze-ons.truly trail-worthy. Still...there's fun in
> > the modifications, so go to town...
>
> > We'd do it again if the ¥ would fall/the USD would climb. We might
> > bring out a less-expensive version, from Taiwan. We have one on paper,
> > but not in the oven just yet.
>
> > Best,
>
> > Grant
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[RBW] Re: Optimizing Atlantis Handling

[Frederick, Steve]

Hmm, the Atlantis' geometry is skewed a bit more toward stability with a load 
so that may account for some of the handling issues you're dealing with.  
Running the same bars on both?  A smidge wider on the Atlantis may give you 
more leverage at speed.

Steve, East Lansing, MI

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[RBW] Betty Foys in the Wild

[Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles]

Hey All,

For those interested, the Betty Foy is finding its way into the hands
of some appreciative riders.

Here are two worthwhile links that provide both nice photos and ideas
for personalizing the Foy:

1.  http://andrewbikes.blogspot.com/ -- The Velo Fellow put this
beauty together for his wife.  Very nice!  More photos are here:
http://tinyurl.com/dh5wx8

2.  http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/04/12/gallery-dotties-rivendell-betty-foy/
-- Dottie's Betty Foy with all of the Rivendell-esque touches.  She
waffled back and forth on buying one, but obviously she is happy with
her decision.

We showed our Betty Foy frames off this weekend at a local outdoor
show and got lots of positive feedback.

Simply great stuff.

Bryan
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[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?

[JoelMatthews]

Keep in mind the Rohloff is designed to handle riding in gritty sand
and rough no road conditions where no other gear system will function
for very long.

The Alfine is less rugged albeit more than good enough for most riders
and is lighter than the Rohloff.

On Apr 26, 9:45 pm, dpco  wrote:
> the rohloff system is so heavy, it makes the frt' and r derailleurs
> systems look very efficient. if rohloff could bring the weight to
> somewhat, modern standards for a road bike, i would buy one in a new
> york minute. and by the way, i am not your sterio-typical weight
> weeny. i ride a blue ram.
> sincerely, don c.
>
> On Apr 26, 7:34 pm, "Doug Peterson"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > When you look at a Rohloff and compare it to the Rube Goldberg of a
> > derailer, it kinda makes you wonder at the "modern" part.  If we weren't all
> > used to looking at the exposed gearing, derailer systems would never be
> > taken seriously if introduced today.  
>
> > Let's see, an Atlantis frame is $2K, and a Rohloff is$2K.  Lot more
> > little precision pieces whirling about in the latter.  Put the two together
> > and you've gotyikes!  One expensive and quite elegant touring bike.  
>
> > dougP
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GeorgeS
> > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:48 PM
> > To: RBW Owners Bunch
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
>
> > I rode a century in the Fall.  In the parking lot at the start I was
> > pumping the tires on my Rambouillet and a teenager, 14-16, comes over
> > and says that his father had sent him over to see what bikes looked
> > like when he (the father) was a kid.  My favorite line in this genre,
> > however, was not about the Rambouillet but concerned my commuter bike,
> > a tout terrain I got from Peter White.  It is equipped with a Rohloff
> > hub.  Noting the lack of derailliers, several colleagues have asked
> > why I can't afford a "modern" bike.  I just don't have the energy to
> > try to explain things to these guys so I mumble something about retro
> > being in style and shift the conversation to the hurricane season.
> > GeorgeS
>
> > On Apr 26, 7:45 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> > > Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments
> > about how great it looks and wistful, "I bet it's comfortable on these rough
> > roads too."
>
> > > The "leather helmet" was known as a "hair net" in the day, iirc.
>
> > > 
> > > From: k5osx 
>
> > > "It is great to see an ancient bike being
> > > ridden in this rally... Is it Italian?"
>
> > > Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker
> > > shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;)
>
> > > robert- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

On my recent custom frame acquisition, I asked the framebuilder/
painter to paint it whatever color he thought would be nice, and
assured him that I'd be happy with it. He seemed kinda nervous about
it, but ended up choosing a great color that I wouldn't have normally
considered. I'm really happy with how it turned out.
Not a Riv, but there is a connection:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/3277222915/

We often do makeovers on old bikes, which sometimes include a basic
powdercoating job. In general, I refuse to get involved in color
selection, and insist that the customer takes care of that part of the
process. I'd hate to have to spring for an extra powdercoating because
I misinterpreted the customer's desired color and/or mistranslated it
into the wrong powder color.

My advice is to ride and smile. The color will grow on you, if it
hasn't already.



On Apr 25, 11:38 pm, Stephen  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/
>
> Hi there,
> I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned
> out.  Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache
> choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch),
> and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself
> that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think?
>
> ~Stephen
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[RBW] Atlantis Admiration

[EricP]

Now that I'm a bit more fully recovered, decided it was time to
express my joy of having an Atlantis.  The ride yesterday was
miserable.  In fact, a couple of times really felt like throwing in
the towel and finding a sag wagon.  All the problems were due to the
engine, not the bike.  The Atlantis handled beautifully.  Not only on
the downhills but also climbing.  Was able to hold a straight line
easily.  Even near the end when totally out of gas and using a silly
low gear.  Due to the ample room, was able to have not only fenders,
but nice squishy tires underneath.  In fact, the rear got too squishy
not just once, but twice.  Still, rode the last 10 or so miles that
way.  (Way too exhausted to change again.)

At least one passing rider commented the fenders seemed like a
sensible idea.  Although by that time, everyone was soaked.  Not
getting rider stripe was welcome, though.

A truly enjoyable bike for a truly less than enjoyable ride.

How bad was the rain? My hobo bag had standing water in the main
compartment.  But the back two pockets (which held camera and cell
phone) were thankfully dry.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
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[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted

[Lisa -S.H.]

Stephen wrote:
> Wow, thanks for all the feedback.  No one thinks its at all flat or
> drab?  Without depth or interest?  I know its just a color, not a
> personality...
>   
It's what I'd call rich, no way flat or drab. Without interest?!?-  um, 
it's about the most interesting color on a bike that I've seen 
sincewell, since I chose my butternut/eggnog color on my custom Luna 
a year ago.
I can envision it with a dark brown Brooks and brown leather bar tape.
It's an amazing color, really. You'll be the envy of everyone!   :)
Lisa

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeams are here

[Frederick, Steve]

Thanks for the tip--it looks like a very pure shade--quite nice!

Steve

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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:48 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Quickbeams are here



In case folks hadn't checked, there are some new photos of the
Quickbeam on the website.  The photos are done against a darker (wood)
background.  Makes the colors stand out better, in my opinion.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 25, 12:31�pm, rcnute  wrote:
> Agreed--the blue is very pretty with the silver.
>
> If only the QB came in 650b a la AHH...
>
> On Apr 25, 6:41�am, charlie  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Everything goes with silver.its a very nice color and one
> > that will always be pleasant to look at.
>
> > On Apr 23, 3:50�pm, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
>
> > > The Quickbeams will always be cool, but orange was definitely my favorite.
>
> > > > From: cm 
> > > > Reply-To: 
> > > > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:33:09 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > > > Subject: [RBW] Quickbeams are here
>
> > > > Just noticed this on the site:
>
> > > > Sneak peak can be found here. We are building and shipping them AQAP.
>
> > > >http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-150
>
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > cm- Hide quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: Toe in or not toe in

[Andrew Janjigian]

Thanks all. I cleaned the rims with alcohol, and used the matchbook toe in
method, rather than the rubber band one. Rode 10mi this morning,
squeallessly. Hopefully that will last.
AJ

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Garth  wrote:

>
>
> Besides alcohol, I also have used a glass cleaner. We have gallons of
> the stuff from Auto Sport... called Haze Free Glass Cleaner. It works
> great on glass great on rims and frames too.
>
> My aunt keeps buying me more of it every Christmasbut I just can't
> use it all :)
> >
>

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[RBW] Re: QB specs & so on

[Rick]

A big yes to everything Grant said...and that's why my wife and I each
bought one; when we decided to voluntarily "downsize" (although I've
come to be a bit defensive about that word, because The American Way
Of Life tends to associate it with being economically bereft, which is
hardly the case) our lives, we wanted to use bicycles for everyday
transportation to and from work, to the store, to the library, to
school, to the coffee house, etc., etc, and use the car sparingly, if
at all. We wanted a bicycle that could handle both the mundane and the
occasional thirty-miler; one that could be modified to our preferences
of utility, be reliable, comfortable, and not a heavyweight (we've
also just moved to a third-floor studio apartment, where the bikes
will share living space with us), and even, lastly, look good.

For us, that's why we decided on Quickbeams: we can't wait to start
riding them.


On Apr 26, 8:59 pm, "gr...@rivbike.com" 
wrote:
> Silver's a nice color...it's never anybody's first pick..hardly ever,
> at least, but I always thought silver bikes looked nice, and the guys
> here think it's pretty striking. Some of us wanted to get one--being
> the last of them, and silver and all, but we aren't allowed to (and we
> all agree this is a good idea) "steal" bikes from customers.
> The seat tube decal is a bit short, but there's a long story to that,
> and I don' wanna tell it. It's neither fascinating nor boring. The
> purplish blue goes well with the silver, I'd say, but I WOULD say,
> wouldn't I?
> We'd planned to make this the last run of QBs, and it may be that.
> There are a few details that, while not "upgrades," are certainly not
> "downgrades." I wish people would focus on these, rather than the font
> (HELVETICA) in the panel. Good ol' Helvetica. Can't go wrong with it.
>  The seat stays have a mid-stay barrel boss. The fork crown is fancy.
> The rake is pretty darn good. The new brakes are super dupe. The rear
> hub isn't a fixed-specific hub, and that might seem-2-some as a less
> than hardcore choice, but you CAN run a fixed cog on it, especially on
> a bike with brakes, and it'll never, ever come loose.
> Putting together a bike like this, or any bike, to a large extent,
> always going to be a "can't please everyone, so you got to please
> yourself" proposition. Critics (and I use this word kindly--and not
> defensively) tend to overlook the things they agree with, the things
> they'd've done themselves, and harp on what they'd have done
> differently. It's just the nature of things, and people.
> I/we DID consider Sheldon-style dropouts, DID consider a der tab (not
> that anybody complained about the lack of it), DID consider other rear
> spacing...but ultimately opted this way. The QB has always been a
> quite tweakable bike. It begs to be modified, but in its unmodified
> form, is capable of a whole lot. Two-speed, fenderable, great
> clearance, braze-ons.truly trail-worthy. Still...there's fun in
> the modifications, so go to town...
>
> We'd do it again if the ¥ would fall/the USD would climb. We might
> bring out a less-expensive version, from Taiwan. We have one on paper,
> but not in the oven just yet.
>
> Best,
>
> Grant
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[RBW] P-clamps may become difficult to obtain?

[Gino Zahnd]

File under: California News of the Asinine
http://blackmountaincycles.blogspot.com/2009/04/file-this-under-wth.html

Perhaps now is a good time to reconsider actual brazeons in all the right
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[RBW] Re: FS: Orange Rambouillet Fork

[Larry Powers]

The fork has been spoken for but you are next on the list if anything happens.  
I will let you know.

 

Thanks.

Larry Powers 

 

"just when you think that you've been gyped the bearded lady comes and does a 
double back flip" - John Hiatt 


 
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:43:50 -0400
> From: chrom...@sbcglobal.net
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: Orange Rambouillet Fork
> 
> 
> I have a 60cm Rambouillet(orange). I would like to have the fork if it 
> is still available. How would you like to be paid!
> 
> Jan Chromick
> 
> Larry Powers wrote:
> > I have a damaged fork from a 60cm orange Rambouillet. It fell over in 
> > my roof rack and damaged one of the fork ends. I received mixed 
> > messages as to whether of not the fork end could be straightened so I 
> > bought a replacement from Rivendell. I was saving it as a backup in 
> > case I ever damaged the fork again. I now own a 62cm Ramouillet so this 
> > fork is collecting dust. Here are some pictures of the fork:
> > 
> > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3478501480_dabee942ee_b.jpg
> > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3655/3477693439_2370742c22_b.jpg
> > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3636/3477694111_592b0a4bd1_b.jpg
> > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3559/3477694731_a59182fdac_b.jpg
> > 
> > If you have a 60cm Rambouillet and would like to experiment with 
> > reraking or have a fork in even worse shape this is the fork for you.
> > 
> > I am willing to sell it to who ever wants it for the actual cost of 
> > shipping. I think $15 would be a good guess but would verify when I 
> > have an actual shipping address.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Larry Powers
> > 
> > "just when you think that you've been gyped the bearded lady comes and 
> > does a double back flip" - John Hiatt
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[RBW] Re: Optimizing Atlantis Handling

[Phil B]

Michael Kennedy asks -

>It's...let's see...six years old.  Ultegra sealed bearing.  What do
>you suspect could be wrong?

Any erratic steering symptom makes me think of the headset.  I know
I've experienced not-so-smooth steering with a bum Dura-Ace (whose
seals had been broken) long before I discovered it was actually
indexing.just a thought.  If the seals are still good and it's
adjusted properly it should be as smooth as the day you got it.  Maybe
it is a "tire/loaded, unloaded/front rear" issue, but it seems it
would have come up before now.

Phil B


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[RBW] Re: P-clamps may become difficult to obtain?

[Seth Vidal]

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Gino Zahnd  wrote:
> File under: California News of the Asinine
> http://blackmountaincycles.blogspot.com/2009/04/file-this-under-wth.html
>
> Perhaps now is a good time to reconsider actual brazeons in all the right
> places...


or perhaps the formulation of how the clamps are made will change.

the blog sure looks like a tempest in a teacup.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: P-clamps may become difficult to obtain?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I can export these to you folks in CA. I'm doubling the price,
however, to compensate myself for having to handle dangerous items.

On Apr 27, 12:12 pm, Gino Zahnd  wrote:
> File under: California News of the 
> Asininehttp://blackmountaincycles.blogspot.com/2009/04/file-this-under-wth.html
>
> Perhaps now is a good time to reconsider actual brazeons in all the right
> places...
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[RBW] Re: Optimizing Atlantis Handling

[PATRICK MOORE]

FWIW, I just fixed a problem with the steering of my Nishiki Mixty Fixty: I
could not get all the play out of the headset, but nonetheless, the hs
didn't turn with complete freedom, to the consequent harm to the steering.

I finally girded my loins and took the effing thing apart, and found that --
yep! -- I had installed the lower crown race bearing assembly (it's one of
those "balls in a ring" kind of thing -- shit, that sounds perverted) upside
down. I installed it correctly and now the steering is fine. The bike is
still a dog, but it steers fine.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Phil B  wrote:

>
> Michael Kennedy asks -
>
> >It's...let's see...six years old.  Ultegra sealed bearing.  What do
> >you suspect could be wrong?
>
> Any erratic steering symptom makes me think of the headset.  I know
> I've experienced not-so-smooth steering with a bum Dura-Ace (whose
> seals had been broken) long before I discovered it was actually
> indexing.just a thought.  If the seals are still good and it's
> adjusted properly it should be as smooth as the day you got it.  Maybe
> it is a "tire/loaded, unloaded/front rear" issue, but it seems it
> would have come up before now.
>
> Phil B
>
>
> >
>


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[RBW] Re: P-clamps may become difficult to obtain?

[Esteban]

+1 for braze-ons.


FYI - P-clamps are also pretty handy for attaching LED flashlights to
rack mounts.

On Apr 27, 11:12 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:
> I can export these to you folks in CA. I'm doubling the price,
> however, to compensate myself for having to handle dangerous items.
>
> On Apr 27, 12:12 pm, Gino Zahnd  wrote:
>
> > File under: California News of the 
> > Asininehttp://blackmountaincycles.blogspot.com/2009/04/file-this-under-wth.html
>
> > Perhaps now is a good time to reconsider actual brazeons in all the right
> > places...
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[RBW] Re: QB specs & so on

[Esteban]

We've discussed gearing quite a bit here.  I find the stock  40/32x18
to be GO ANYWHERE gearing. It requires some spinning, and some out-of-
saddle climbs occasionally (I'm writing from hilly San Diego), but it
gets me up almost any hill in the big chainring, with the bail-out
just in case.  I think its brilliant - and again, ready for your
personalization with cheap freewheels.

Quickbeams can be great candidates for "one bike to rule them all."
Commuting, road, off-road, touring (it can be done), with minimal
tweaking; you just want to ride this bike.  Its simple.  But they are
also great as the "A Fixed/Singlespeed Iteration of a Bike You Already
Have" ala Bike Snob:

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2008/06/multiples-how-much-is-too-much.html

The GP Iteration is a given on this forum!  Happily!


On Apr 27, 10:03 am, Rick  wrote:
> A big yes to everything Grant said...and that's why my wife and I each
> bought one; when we decided to voluntarily "downsize" (although I've
> come to be a bit defensive about that word, because The American Way
> Of Life tends to associate it with being economically bereft, which is
> hardly the case) our lives, we wanted to use bicycles for everyday
> transportation to and from work, to the store, to the library, to
> school, to the coffee house, etc., etc, and use the car sparingly, if
> at all. We wanted a bicycle that could handle both the mundane and the
> occasional thirty-miler; one that could be modified to our preferences
> of utility, be reliable, comfortable, and not a heavyweight (we've
> also just moved to a third-floor studio apartment, where the bikes
> will share living space with us), and even, lastly, look good.
>
> For us, that's why we decided on Quickbeams: we can't wait to start
> riding them.
>
> On Apr 26, 8:59 pm, "gr...@rivbike.com" 
> wrote:
>
> > Silver's a nice color...it's never anybody's first pick..hardly ever,
> > at least, but I always thought silver bikes looked nice, and the guys
> > here think it's pretty striking. Some of us wanted to get one--being
> > the last of them, and silver and all, but we aren't allowed to (and we
> > all agree this is a good idea) "steal" bikes from customers.
> > The seat tube decal is a bit short, but there's a long story to that,
> > and I don' wanna tell it. It's neither fascinating nor boring. The
> > purplish blue goes well with the silver, I'd say, but I WOULD say,
> > wouldn't I?
> > We'd planned to make this the last run of QBs, and it may be that.
> > There are a few details that, while not "upgrades," are certainly not
> > "downgrades." I wish people would focus on these, rather than the font
> > (HELVETICA) in the panel. Good ol' Helvetica. Can't go wrong with it.
> >  The seat stays have a mid-stay barrel boss. The fork crown is fancy.
> > The rake is pretty darn good. The new brakes are super dupe. The rear
> > hub isn't a fixed-specific hub, and that might seem-2-some as a less
> > than hardcore choice, but you CAN run a fixed cog on it, especially on
> > a bike with brakes, and it'll never, ever come loose.
> > Putting together a bike like this, or any bike, to a large extent,
> > always going to be a "can't please everyone, so you got to please
> > yourself" proposition. Critics (and I use this word kindly--and not
> > defensively) tend to overlook the things they agree with, the things
> > they'd've done themselves, and harp on what they'd have done
> > differently. It's just the nature of things, and people.
> > I/we DID consider Sheldon-style dropouts, DID consider a der tab (not
> > that anybody complained about the lack of it), DID consider other rear
> > spacing...but ultimately opted this way. The QB has always been a
> > quite tweakable bike. It begs to be modified, but in its unmodified
> > form, is capable of a whole lot. Two-speed, fenderable, great
> > clearance, braze-ons.truly trail-worthy. Still...there's fun in
> > the modifications, so go to town...
>
> > We'd do it again if the ¥ would fall/the USD would climb. We might
> > bring out a less-expensive version, from Taiwan. We have one on paper,
> > but not in the oven just yet.
>
> > Best,
>
> > Grant
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[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted

[Peter Merryman]

This is the kind of color you'd see on a Vanilla or Ebisu bike - in other
words I love it.

However, if I saw a pudding this color I'd be wary about eating it.

-Pete


On 4/27/09, Lisa -S.H.  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Stephen wrote:
> > Wow, thanks for all the feedback.  No one thinks its at all flat or
> > drab?  Without depth or interest?  I know its just a color, not a
> > personality...

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[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted

[Esteban]

After seeing Jim's Goodrich (wow!), I was just thinking how this
orange would look cool with Schwalbe Delta Cruisers in creme - maybe
pick up a pair just for Sundays!

On Apr 27, 12:06 pm, Peter Merryman  wrote:
> This is the kind of color you'd see on a Vanilla or Ebisu bike - in other
> words I love it.
>
> However, if I saw a pudding this color I'd be wary about eating it.
>
> -Pete
>
> On 4/27/09, Lisa -S.H.  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Stephen wrote:
> > > Wow, thanks for all the feedback.  No one thinks its at all flat or
> > > drab?  Without depth or interest?  I know its just a color, not a
> > > personality...
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[RBW] P-clamps may become difficult to obtain?

[Dave Lloyd]

I bet that this is for p-clamps made with PVC.  PVC needs a bit of lead in
it (think wire insulation) to make it flexible.  Both PVC and lead are nasty
things and have some not so nice byproducts and health hazards in the
manufacturing process (look up the Doe Run smelter on the 'net; it's just a
bit south of my fair city of St. Louis).  I'd wager that the silicone coated
P clamps are still in ample supply.  McMaster Carr will likely have
stainless P clamps with a silicone cushion in whatever size you need.

--dlloyd

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[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted

[JoelMatthews]

> On my recent custom frame acquisition, I asked the framebuilder/
> painter to paint it whatever color he thought would be nice, and
> assured him that I'd be happy with it. He seemed kinda nervous about
> it, but ended up choosing a great color that I wouldn't have normally
> considered. I'm really happy with how it turned out.
> Not a Riv, but there is a 
> connection:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/3277222915/

Jim:

Very nice touring bike!

I retrofitted my Oswald touring bike to fit up to a 700 x 2.00
Schwalbe Big Apple.  I think the big tires are great for touring.
Probably won't win any races with it.  But speed and touring seem to
be opposing terms.

On Apr 27, 8:09 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> On my recent custom frame acquisition, I asked the framebuilder/
> painter to paint it whatever color he thought would be nice, and
> assured him that I'd be happy with it. He seemed kinda nervous about
> it, but ended up choosing a great color that I wouldn't have normally
> considered. I'm really happy with how it turned out.
> Not a Riv, but there is a 
> connection:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/3277222915/
>
> We often do makeovers on old bikes, which sometimes include a basic
> powdercoating job. In general, I refuse to get involved in color
> selection, and insist that the customer takes care of that part of the
> process. I'd hate to have to spring for an extra powdercoating because
> I misinterpreted the customer's desired color and/or mistranslated it
> into the wrong powder color.
>
> My advice is to ride and smile. The color will grow on you, if it
> hasn't already.
>
> On Apr 25, 11:38 pm, Stephen  wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/
>
> > Hi there,
> > I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned
> > out.  Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache
> > choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch),
> > and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself
> > that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think?
>
> > ~Stephen- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted

[JoelMatthews]

Oh yeah.  I have Berthouds on my tourer as well.

On Apr 27, 3:33 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > On my recent custom frame acquisition, I asked the framebuilder/
> > painter to paint it whatever color he thought would be nice, and
> > assured him that I'd be happy with it. He seemed kinda nervous about
> > it, but ended up choosing a great color that I wouldn't have normally
> > considered. I'm really happy with how it turned out.
> > Not a Riv, but there is a 
> > connection:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/3277222915/
>
> Jim:
>
> Very nice touring bike!
>
> I retrofitted my Oswald touring bike to fit up to a 700 x 2.00
> Schwalbe Big Apple.  I think the big tires are great for touring.
> Probably won't win any races with it.  But speed and touring seem to
> be opposing terms.
>
> On Apr 27, 8:09 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On my recent custom frame acquisition, I asked the framebuilder/
> > painter to paint it whatever color he thought would be nice, and
> > assured him that I'd be happy with it. He seemed kinda nervous about
> > it, but ended up choosing a great color that I wouldn't have normally
> > considered. I'm really happy with how it turned out.
> > Not a Riv, but there is a 
> > connection:http://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/3277222915/
>
> > We often do makeovers on old bikes, which sometimes include a basic
> > powdercoating job. In general, I refuse to get involved in color
> > selection, and insist that the customer takes care of that part of the
> > process. I'd hate to have to spring for an extra powdercoating because
> > I misinterpreted the customer's desired color and/or mistranslated it
> > into the wrong powder color.
>
> > My advice is to ride and smile. The color will grow on you, if it
> > hasn't already.
>
> > On Apr 25, 11:38 pm, Stephen  wrote:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/
>
> > > Hi there,
> > > I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned
> > > out.  Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache
> > > choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch),
> > > and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself
> > > that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think?
>
> > > ~Stephen- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: Optimizing Atlantis Handling

[whiskeyding]

Thanks to everyone who chimed in!  I've decided first to try a little
more weight up front, so I'll be ordering an M12 rack and probably
strapping a basket to it.  Once I do, I'll unfortunately need a longer
cable for my Lumotec IQ.  Time to break out the soldering iron...

Sincerely,

Michael
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[RBW] For a List archivist perhaps

[Bruce]

I'm cleaning up my office and have some RBW literature. Any or all of the below 
can be had for the postage to get it you by your favorite modus.

Catalog # 19  A lot more than just a listing of goods. Well worth reading.
Reader # 38   Summer 2006
Reader # 39Early 2007
Reader # 40   Early 2008

I've been through them, and now someone else might enjoy them. If you missed 
these 1st time around, drop me an email back channel please.

Tailwinds

Bruce



  
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[RBW] Re: QB specs & so on

[usuk2007]

I find the stock 40x18 top a bit annoying on the flats so I installed
a 16/18 White Industries freewheel.
Then to turn the QB into a better touring bike I put a 22t freewheel
on the other side of the hub. The
genius of the angled drop outs lets me go from 40/16 to 32/22 when a
steep hill looms. This summer
I'll be touring through the UK on my QB and going over the North Yorks
Moors  - think the opening
sequences from "American Werewolf in London". There will be some
climbing that day, I'll pass
the UK's steepest paved road, Rosedale Chimney, which tops out at 33%,
but luckily I won't
have to actually climb it.



On Apr 27, 2:55 pm, Esteban  wrote:
> We've discussed gearing quite a bit here.  I find the stock  40/32x18
> to be GO ANYWHERE gearing. It requires some spinning, and some out-of-
> saddle climbs occasionally (I'm writing from hilly San Diego), but it
> gets me up almost any hill in the big chainring, with the bail-out
> just in case.  I think its brilliant - and again, ready for your
> personalization with cheap freewheels.
>
> Quickbeams can be great candidates for "one bike to rule them all."
> Commuting, road, off-road, touring (it can be done), with minimal
> tweaking; you just want to ride this bike.  Its simple.  But they are
> also great as the "A Fixed/Singlespeed Iteration of a Bike You Already
> Have" ala Bike Snob:
>
> http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2008/06/multiples-how-much-is-too-muc...
>
> The GP Iteration is a given on this forum!  Happily!
>
> On Apr 27, 10:03 am, Rick  wrote:
>
> > A big yes to everything Grant said...and that's why my wife and I each
> > bought one; when we decided to voluntarily "downsize" (although I've
> > come to be a bit defensive about that word, because The American Way
> > Of Life tends to associate it with being economically bereft, which is
> > hardly the case) our lives, we wanted to use bicycles for everyday
> > transportation to and from work, to the store, to the library, to
> > school, to the coffee house, etc., etc, and use the car sparingly, if
> > at all. We wanted a bicycle that could handle both the mundane and the
> > occasional thirty-miler; one that could be modified to our preferences
> > of utility, be reliable, comfortable, and not a heavyweight (we've
> > also just moved to a third-floor studio apartment, where the bikes
> > will share living space with us), and even, lastly, look good.
>
> > For us, that's why we decided on Quickbeams: we can't wait to start
> > riding them.
>
> > On Apr 26, 8:59 pm, "gr...@rivbike.com" 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Silver's a nice color...it's never anybody's first pick..hardly ever,
> > > at least, but I always thought silver bikes looked nice, and the guys
> > > here think it's pretty striking. Some of us wanted to get one--being
> > > the last of them, and silver and all, but we aren't allowed to (and we
> > > all agree this is a good idea) "steal" bikes from customers.
> > > The seat tube decal is a bit short, but there's a long story to that,
> > > and I don' wanna tell it. It's neither fascinating nor boring. The
> > > purplish blue goes well with the silver, I'd say, but I WOULD say,
> > > wouldn't I?
> > > We'd planned to make this the last run of QBs, and it may be that.
> > > There are a few details that, while not "upgrades," are certainly not
> > > "downgrades." I wish people would focus on these, rather than the font
> > > (HELVETICA) in the panel. Good ol' Helvetica. Can't go wrong with it.
> > >  The seat stays have a mid-stay barrel boss. The fork crown is fancy.
> > > The rake is pretty darn good. The new brakes are super dupe. The rear
> > > hub isn't a fixed-specific hub, and that might seem-2-some as a less
> > > than hardcore choice, but you CAN run a fixed cog on it, especially on
> > > a bike with brakes, and it'll never, ever come loose.
> > > Putting together a bike like this, or any bike, to a large extent,
> > > always going to be a "can't please everyone, so you got to please
> > > yourself" proposition. Critics (and I use this word kindly--and not
> > > defensively) tend to overlook the things they agree with, the things
> > > they'd've done themselves, and harp on what they'd have done
> > > differently. It's just the nature of things, and people.
> > > I/we DID consider Sheldon-style dropouts, DID consider a der tab (not
> > > that anybody complained about the lack of it), DID consider other rear
> > > spacing...but ultimately opted this way. The QB has always been a
> > > quite tweakable bike. It begs to be modified, but in its unmodified
> > > form, is capable of a whole lot. Two-speed, fenderable, great
> > > clearance, braze-ons.truly trail-worthy. Still...there's fun in
> > > the modifications, so go to town...
>
> > > We'd do it again if the ¥ would fall/the USD would climb. We might
> > > bring out a less-expensive version, from Taiwan. We have one on paper,
> > > but not in the oven just yet.
>
> > > Best,
>
> > > Grant
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[RBW] Fw: For a List archivist perhaps

[Bruce]

All but the latest #40 reader have been spoken for

From: Bruce 



Catalog # 19  A lot more than just a listing of goods. Well worth reading.
Reader # 38   Summer 2006
Reader # 39Early 2007
Reader # 40   Early 2008


  
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[RBW] For Sale Atlantis on CL

[Andy.M]

Hey All,
Found a giant Atlantis for sale on craig's list today.  I've been
looking for a 54.5, but this is way to big for me.  Thought that maybe
someone else might have a good home for it.  Heres the link...
http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/bik/1141326720.html

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[RBW] Re: For Sale Atlantis on CL

[David Estes]

I got excited when I saw PS was the location, but this is kind of the other
end of the pricing spectrum from the $975 S&S coupled Atlantis of a couple
weeks ago...



On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Andy.M  wrote:

>
> Hey All,
> Found a giant Atlantis for sale on craig's list today.  I've been
> looking for a 54.5, but this is way to big for me.  Thought that maybe
> someone else might have a good home for it.  Heres the link...
> http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/bik/1141326720.html
>
> >
>


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Redlands, CA

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