[RBW] Re: Thank goodness for steel spokes and Rich Lesnik
To be clear, I wasn't advocating Mavic's postion, but felt that their response should be noted. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard from 1996
Hello Jim Thank you for posting those inspiring pictures. What is the size of the frame and what is the length of the stem? How is the Nitto Campee works with Berthoud panniers. I´m curios to know because I´m in the porocess of building my dream touring bike in same tradition. Regards Carl Otto Wollin Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:22:33 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Rivendell Road Standard from 1996 From: cloud...@aol.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I added some photographs of my Rivendell Road Standard from 1996 to the flickr photosharing website (Rivendell Group) and I thought I'd post a message on the RBW discussion group. I requested the bicycle, during its original build with Bruce Gordon style rack mounts on the fork, pinstriping and a custom paint job which is one that was available on the first generation Paramount Design Group Paramount bikes from 1980. The color is called Light Saddle Metallic, and was originally an automotive finish. This bike was originally equipped for fast sports riding, but I've recently redone it for light touring (thankfully, I had the necessary brazed attachments on the original build, sorry Maynard...). The bike has very close clearances so the mounting of Honjos is somewhat compromised and really only works with tires of 28mm width (or less). Honjos aren't really too necessary in Tucson, but they look nice! I mounted the Berthoud GB2886 handlebar bag with a Mark's rack and VO Classic decaleur, it has worked quite well with this setup. Here's the link to the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964...@n05/sets/72157619758078965/ Jim _ Vem är du? Gör personlighetstestet på MSN Dejting! http://dejting.se.msn.com/channel/index.aspx?trackingid=1002952 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard from 1996
Hi Jim Nice Rivendell, it reminds my Heron Touring. pictures: http://tinyurl.com/n3l76e and some pic of my Rivendell and Atlantis Olle Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:22:33 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Rivendell Road Standard from 1996 From: cloud...@aol.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I added some photographs of my Rivendell Road Standard from 1996 to the flickr photosharing website (Rivendell Group) and I thought I'd post a message on the RBW discussion group. I requested the bicycle, during its original build with Bruce Gordon style rack mounts on the fork, pinstriping and a custom paint job which is one that was available on the first generation Paramount Design Group Paramount bikes from 1980. The color is called Light Saddle Metallic, and was originally an automotive finish. This bike was originally equipped for fast sports riding, but I've recently redone it for light touring (thankfully, I had the necessary brazed attachments on the original build, sorry Maynard...). The bike has very close clearances so the mounting of Honjos is somewhat compromised and really only works with tires of 28mm width (or less). Honjos aren't really too necessary in Tucson, but they look nice! I mounted the Berthoud GB2886 handlebar bag with a Mark's rack and VO Classic decaleur, it has worked quite well with this setup. Here's the link to the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964...@n05/sets/72157619758078965/ Jim No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.364 / Virus Database: 270.12.71/2178 - Release Date: 06/15/09 17:54:00 -- mvh * Jan-Olov Jansson Norbyvägen 71 B 752 39 UPPSALA Sweden +46 18 432 9348 (home) +46 70 794 3306 (gsm) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Thank goodness for steel spokes and Rich Lesnik
One way of looking at this: regardless of the fault (frame, tire, wheel, rider) the severity of the failure (almost guaranteed crash) will keep me well clear of carbon spokes. I've got nothing against Mavic, I have their aluminum rims on three of my Rivendells. Angus On Jun 17, 1:47 am, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: To be clear, I wasn't advocating Mavic's postion, but felt that their response should be noted. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard from 1996
Olle, I have been experimenting with 650b wheels with my 56cm Atlantis (uses 559 wheels) but have had some trouble finding brakes to work (among those I already own). What did you use to reach up to the larger rims? Tom Nezovich Cleveland, OH On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:56 AM, olle wrote: Hi Jim Nice Rivendell, it reminds my Heron Touring. pictures: http://tinyurl.com/n3l76e and some pic of my Rivendell and Atlantis Olle Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:22:33 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Rivendell Road Standard from 1996 From: cloud...@aol.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I added some photographs of my Rivendell Road Standard from 1996 to the flickr photosharing website (Rivendell Group) and I thought I'd post a message on the RBW discussion group. I requested the bicycle, during its original build with Bruce Gordon style rack mounts on the fork, pinstriping and a custom paint job which is one that was available on the first generation Paramount Design Group Paramount bikes from 1980. The color is called Light Saddle Metallic, and was originally an automotive finish. This bike was originally equipped for fast sports riding, but I've recently redone it for light touring (thankfully, I had the necessary brazed attachments on the original build, sorry Maynard...). The bike has very close clearances so the mounting of Honjos is somewhat compromised and really only works with tires of 28mm width (or less). Honjos aren't really too necessary in Tucson, but they look nice! I mounted the Berthoud GB2886 handlebar bag with a Mark's rack and VO Classic decaleur, it has worked quite well with this setup. Here's the link to the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964...@n05/sets/72157619758078965/ Jim -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.364 / Virus Database: 270.12.71/2178 - Release Date: 06/15/09 17:54:00 -- mvh * Jan-Olov Jansson Norbyvägen 71 B 752 39 UPPSALA Sweden +46 18 432 9348 (home) +46 70 794 3306 (gsm) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard from 1996
Hi Carl, The frame size is 65 cm, and the stem length is 120mm. The Nitto Campee rear rack works perfectly with the GB799 panniers. they're designed to fit on a rack with tapering side supports (like the racks that are sometimes built by custom frame builders which are mounted on the fender). The rack, which I bought from Ben's Cycle Super Store on eBay, is now also available from Velo-Orange (it's actually on sale now at VO). Looking at the photos on the VO website, however, it's not clear to me that the rack has the appropriate mounts to accommodate seat stay rack braze-on's (it appears to be intended for canti mounting). I'd certainly want to clarify with Chris whether the rack will fit a bike with seat stay rack mounts. Here are the photos from Ben's Cycle's eBay listing (I don't, obviously have any relationship with the Seller): http://cgi.ebay.com/NITTO-CAMPEE-REAR-BICYCLE-RACK-Touring_W0QQitemZ370205537836QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5631f8362c_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116 Note that I don't use the lowrider rack mounts to fit the GB799 panniers, they're not really compatible with those accessory racks (I think some of the larger Berthoud panniers, or those originally made by Sologne would fit appropriately). Good luck! Jim On Jun 17, 1:36 am, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Jim Thank you for posting those inspiring pictures. What is the size of the frame and what is the length of the stem? How is the Nitto Campee works with Berthoud panniers. I´m curios to know because I´m in the porocess of building my dream touring bike in same tradition. Regards Carl Otto Wollin Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:22:33 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Rivendell Road Standard from 1996 From: cloud...@aol.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I added some photographs of my Rivendell Road Standard from 1996 to the flickr photosharing website (Rivendell Group) and I thought I'd post a message on the RBW discussion group. I requested the bicycle, during its original build with Bruce Gordon style rack mounts on the fork, pinstriping and a custom paint job which is one that was available on the first generation Paramount Design Group Paramount bikes from 1980. The color is called Light Saddle Metallic, and was originally an automotive finish. This bike was originally equipped for fast sports riding, but I've recently redone it for light touring (thankfully, I had the necessary brazed attachments on the original build, sorry Maynard...). The bike has very close clearances so the mounting of Honjos is somewhat compromised and really only works with tires of 28mm width (or less). Honjos aren't really too necessary in Tucson, but they look nice! I mounted the Berthoud GB2886 handlebar bag with a Mark's rack and VO Classic decaleur, it has worked quite well with this setup. Here's the link to the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964...@n05/sets/72157619758078965/ Jim _ Vem är du? Gör personlighetstestet på MSN Dejting!http://dejting.se.msn.com/channel/index.aspx?trackingid=1002952- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SF Peninsula s24 overnight? was Re: [RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27
Has this gone off yet? I saved it in my inbox, but my partner and I will be moving to the bay area on July 1st and would love to join up with some local riders for an s24o. She rides a saluki, I've an atlantis. Thanks, erik jensen On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: OK, roll call time. Anyone from the Peninsula area (let's say, San Jose to Redwood City, more or less) who is interested in a sub-24 overnight, email me. Let me know what your schedule is, and what destinations appeal to you. Let's think about a trip in late June or late July. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard from 1996
Hi I am using Tektro Oryx but I was shifting the spacers from inner to outer place, othervise I think some Paul V-brakes works. And also put the brakespads at top of the slot in the brakearms. I have ridden since 2006 with 650B on my 53 cm Atlantis instead for 559 wheelset. Olle Olle, I have been experimenting with 650b wheels with my 56cm Atlantis (uses 559 wheels) but have had some trouble finding brakes to work (among those I already own). What did you use to reach up to the larger rims? Tom Nezovich Cleveland, OH On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:56 AM, olle wrote: -- medvind Olle ** Jan-Olov Jansson Norbyvägen 71b 752 39 Uppsala Sweden + 46 18 4329 348 (home) + 46 70 794 3306 (gsm) -- __@ (*)/ (*) -- medvind Olle ** Jan-Olov Jansson Norbyvägen 71b 752 39 Uppsala Sweden + 46 18 4329 348 (home) + 46 70 794 3306 (gsm) -- __@ (*)/ (*) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire
I've had the fatty rumpkins on for a couple of weeks now and have been enjoying them through some mixed trail/road business and my regular commute. Had to remove the fenders, mine were cut to accomodate the CdlVs, and were a smidgen too small for the fatty's. So for right now, the bleriot is in its top-down summer mode, unless I do something rash and snag some new fenders that would take fatty's/hetres. On that front, I'm guessing my options include VO zeppelins and the larger Honjos Jitensha carries? On Jun 17, 12:26 am, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: On Jun 16, 8:45 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I hope I didn't come across wrong, I don't doubt your explanation, I was just hopeful that perhaps someone on this list had enough of a connection to someone at grand bois to float the idea of a 700c hetre by them. I have asked them. The answer is that right now, no new Grand Bois tires are planned. The molds for the existing tires need to be amortized first. If something comes along, I suspect it'll be a 650B x 38 mm, which is a true hole in the current lineups of tires. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly 140 Lakeside Ave #C Seattle WA 98122http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire
Quoting Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com: I've had the fatty rumpkins on for a couple of weeks now and have been enjoying them through some mixed trail/road business and my regular commute. Had to remove the fenders, mine were cut to accomodate the CdlVs, and were a smidgen too small for the fatty's. So for right now, the bleriot is in its top-down summer mode, unless I do something rash and snag some new fenders that would take fatty's/hetres. On that front, I'm guessing my options include VO zeppelins and the larger Honjos Jitensha carries? Yes. Also BQ carries the 58mm Honjos, including a hammered version that Jitensha doesn't have. Here http://www.flickr.com/photos/organize/?start_tab=sets are some photos of my Saluki with the 58mm Honjos from Jitensha (these are the fluted ones) including detail of the mods I had to make to get the fenders to fit at the chainstays. You'd have to do something similar with the Bleriot. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire
Quoting palin...@his.com: Quoting Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com: I've had the fatty rumpkins on for a couple of weeks now and have been enjoying them through some mixed trail/road business and my regular commute. Had to remove the fenders, mine were cut to accomodate the CdlVs, and were a smidgen too small for the fatty's. So for right now, the bleriot is in its top-down summer mode, unless I do something rash and snag some new fenders that would take fatty's/hetres. On that front, I'm guessing my options include VO zeppelins and the larger Honjos Jitensha carries? Yes. Also BQ carries the 58mm Honjos, including a hammered version that Jitensha doesn't have. Here http://www.flickr.com/photos/organize/?start_tab=sets are some photos of my Saluki with the 58mm Honjos from Jitensha (these are the fluted ones) including detail of the mods I had to make to get the fenders to fit at the chainstays. You'd have to do something similar with the Bleriot. I was afraid of that. Copied the wrong flickr URL. You'll find this will work a lot better: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157617915097787/ My apologies. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SF Peninsula s24 overnight? was Re: [RBW] S24O: Crystal Cove, 6/27
I'm just finishing up the semester and haven't scheduled anything yet. I'm thinking late July. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM, erik jensenbicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: Has this gone off yet? I saved it in my inbox, but my partner and I will be moving to the bay area on July 1st and would love to join up with some local riders for an s24o. She rides a saluki, I've an atlantis. Thanks, erik jensen On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: OK, roll call time. Anyone from the Peninsula area (let's say, San Jose to Redwood City, more or less) who is interested in a sub-24 overnight, email me. Let me know what your schedule is, and what destinations appeal to you. Let's think about a trip in late June or late July. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Thank goodness for steel spokes and Rich Lesnik
+1 Rich build all the wheels my wife and I use. If you want the spend the money and light enough, he can build you something as light as most light wheels out there but with 32 spokes. On Jun 16, 8:22 pm, Will wpm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. After reading the following VeloNews article, I suddenly feel thankful for Grant/RBW’s wheel-building philosophies and my Rich Lesnik-built wheelset.www.velonews.com/article/93054 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] SF Question
A question for the SF area RBWO-ers: Say you are coming into town via the Amtrak (the Emeryville station seems to be the closest to the city I believe) with one's bicycle and you wanted to see things such as Riv World Headquarters, SFMOMA and other art galleries. So any suggestions on where to stay area wise or actual hotel suggestions would be much appreciated. I'm pretty cool with cycling or walking around the city and definitely am cool with the BART and such. I think I'd rather be closer to the gallery zone (which seems to be within Misson/Market and 1st/4th) and BART/Bicycle out to other activities but I also don't want to fork over my first born. Anyway any and all advice is appreciated. thanks, Robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Sam Hillborne First Impressions
My 60cm Sam Hillborne partial build arrived on Friday and I spent the weekend putting it together. This is truly a gorgeous bike. The paint looks fantastic and the lugs are very nice. Mine has a bit fancier down tube lug than the one photographed by Renaissance Bicycles. I'll post photos once it's wearing its fenders (not at the moment). I commute daily and this is now my daily rider (replacing massively upgraded 1971 Peugeot UO-8). I'll give riding impressions here and if you want to know how its set up then keep reading below. The ride is very smooth. My first impression is man those handle bars are really up there! This will come as no surprise to Riv riders, I imagine, but it was surprising to me. At first I wasn't sure about it, but now I find it very comfortable. The frame geometry is in general very comfortable. I know this is Grant's shtick, but he's not just talking, it's for real. At the moment the saddle feels a bit far forward, but it's not on the right post yet. I had never ridden bar-end shifters. The one thing I didn't like about the Hillborne frame was the lack of provision for down tube shifters (my preference). But I ordered it and took the leap of faith. I got used to these things in two rides and now it's totally natural. I like it. The Silver shifters are very close copies of the SunTour Sprints that I run on my Peugeot. They work great in bar end configuration, something I wouldn't have expected. I was convinced by Keven at Riv on the phone to order the Schwalbe Marathon Supremes instead of the Jack Browns. I wanted the look of the tan sidewall but I thought, Heck these guys know what they're doing and if he says get the Schwalbes, then do it. I still want to try the Jack Browns for comparison at some point, but for now I'm very happy. These ride like butter! Through the rougher parts of the road it's like floating on air over the mess. With 7 speeds in the rear and three in the front (haven't needed that tiny front one yet), I feel like I have infinite gearing available. The SRAM rear derailleur is fast and smooth and highly accurate. Never ridden one before but I'm very happy with it. I highly recommend this bike. It's comfortable, easy to ride, and plenty light and quick, even decked out with gear that is not amazingly light weight. Here's how I have it set up at the moment. I should say here that I weigh 230lbs (and live on top of a big hill and commute through an industrial area) and that I have a history of doing damage to axles, drive-side cups/cones, and cranksets. I ordered things to be rugged because I don't want to deal with repairing stuff as much as possible. * 60 cm Sam Hillborne frame * Phil Rivy Hubs with Velocity Dyad Rims (Rich built) * IRD 7sp freewheel * Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 42mm tires * Sugino XD2 cranks (175mm) a la Riv * Campagnolo Mirage front derailleur * SRAM X-7 rear derailleur * Silver bar end shifters * Nitto Noodle bars * Cane Creek SCR-5 levers (tan) * Velo Orange Grenouille cantilevers * Velo Orange 110mm stem * Velo Orange stem adaptor * Velo Orange road pedals (chrome cages) with MKS tall clips and Christophe straps * Velo Orange type 2 bottle holders * New Brooks B-17 honey saddle (borrowed from my Raleigh Professional) * Campagnolo Nuovo Record seat post (borrowed from my Raleigh Professional) I have a Velo Orange seat post and Cardiff Mercia saddle waiting at home to go on the bike for tomorrow's riding. We'll see how that changes things. This weekend I will be fitting Velo Orange 52mm alloy fenders and will get photos on the first sunny day after that. :) Cheers, Karl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Thank goodness for steel spokes and Rich Lesnik
There are other carbon-fiber spoked wheels out there that have been performing well for years. This particular Mavic rim is just a bad design and prone to failures. But then again, so are the Ksyriums for that matter, which are metal rims with metal spokes. I've seen enough of them taco'ed to stay away. I don't see people going around blowing up Zipp wheels on a regular basis, or Hed or Spinnergy either. I will admit that, I am not a fan of Mavic rims at all, no matter what materials they are made of. They have given me lots of problems. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:23 PM, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: Although nothing conclusive has been determined regarding the actual cause of this structural failure (spokes vs. rim vs. tire vs. frame material), when I get a flat tire on my metal wheels, they don't blow apart like a Christmas cracker. The culprit here, fundamentally, is carbon and using it where it probably doesn't yet belong. We all realize the pressure the industry has to race to the Next Big Thing, but riders (racers, in particular) are being used as Guinea pigs. Advanced engineering requires advanced, and extensive, testing. I trust Mavic to make metal rims. But that's all. Until they quit treating their customers like crash test dummies, I'll stick with their old school metal products which, thus far, have been reputable. Stick with what you know. Dave - Original Message - *From:* Will wpm...@gmail.com *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:22 PM *Subject:* [RBW] Thank goodness for steel spokes and Rich Lesnik Hi. After reading the following VeloNews article, I suddenly feel thankful for Grant/RBW’s wheel-building philosophies and my Rich Lesnik-built wheelset. www.velonews.com/article/93054 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Brooks B-17 FS
I am selling a Brooks B-17 standard (black) that has seen only slight use. In excellent used condition, asking 75.00 including shipping in con us. Please reply offlist. Thanks. Beth http://bikelovejones.livejournal.com http://veloquent.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne First Impressions
Man! That's quite an upgrade, from a U08 to even a made in Taiwan Rivendell! I decided some time ago that, because one of my Riv customs was hanging on the wall while I rode (fixed gear) beaters to work, that I would have the Riv converted to fixed and use it for commuting. I have had no regrets about this since. The best thing about the Rivs, IME and IMO, is their fit and handling. Everything else -- lugs, colors, braze ons, what have you -- is gravy on the mashed potatoes of fit and handling. Patrick Moore, who just commuted 17+ miles rt today, and climbed the steep hill behind Don Chalmers on 528 in the 69 gear (and dropped a sorry geary rider!), without having to resort to the new, 18t/61 bailout gear -- but who caught the bus halfway home because of the wind. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:40 PM, relistan relis...@gmail.com wrote: My 60cm Sam Hillborne partial build arrived on Friday and I spent the weekend putting it together. This is truly a gorgeous bike. The paint looks fantastic and the lugs are very nice. Mine has a bit fancier down tube lug than the one photographed by Renaissance Bicycles. I'll post photos once it's wearing its fenders (not at the moment). I commute daily and this is now my daily rider (replacing massively upgraded 1971 Peugeot UO-8). I'll give riding impressions here and if you want to know how its set up then keep reading below. The ride is very smooth. My first impression is man those handle bars are really up there! This will come as no surprise to Riv riders, I imagine, but it was surprising to me. At first I wasn't sure about it, but now I find it very comfortable. The frame geometry is in general very comfortable. I know this is Grant's shtick, but he's not just talking, it's for real. At the moment the saddle feels a bit far forward, but it's not on the right post yet. I had never ridden bar-end shifters. The one thing I didn't like about the Hillborne frame was the lack of provision for down tube shifters (my preference). But I ordered it and took the leap of faith. I got used to these things in two rides and now it's totally natural. I like it. The Silver shifters are very close copies of the SunTour Sprints that I run on my Peugeot. They work great in bar end configuration, something I wouldn't have expected. I was convinced by Keven at Riv on the phone to order the Schwalbe Marathon Supremes instead of the Jack Browns. I wanted the look of the tan sidewall but I thought, Heck these guys know what they're doing and if he says get the Schwalbes, then do it. I still want to try the Jack Browns for comparison at some point, but for now I'm very happy. These ride like butter! Through the rougher parts of the road it's like floating on air over the mess. With 7 speeds in the rear and three in the front (haven't needed that tiny front one yet), I feel like I have infinite gearing available. The SRAM rear derailleur is fast and smooth and highly accurate. Never ridden one before but I'm very happy with it. I highly recommend this bike. It's comfortable, easy to ride, and plenty light and quick, even decked out with gear that is not amazingly light weight. Here's how I have it set up at the moment. I should say here that I weigh 230lbs (and live on top of a big hill and commute through an industrial area) and that I have a history of doing damage to axles, drive-side cups/cones, and cranksets. I ordered things to be rugged because I don't want to deal with repairing stuff as much as possible. * 60 cm Sam Hillborne frame * Phil Rivy Hubs with Velocity Dyad Rims (Rich built) * IRD 7sp freewheel * Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 42mm tires * Sugino XD2 cranks (175mm) a la Riv * Campagnolo Mirage front derailleur * SRAM X-7 rear derailleur * Silver bar end shifters * Nitto Noodle bars * Cane Creek SCR-5 levers (tan) * Velo Orange Grenouille cantilevers * Velo Orange 110mm stem * Velo Orange stem adaptor * Velo Orange road pedals (chrome cages) with MKS tall clips and Christophe straps * Velo Orange type 2 bottle holders * New Brooks B-17 honey saddle (borrowed from my Raleigh Professional) * Campagnolo Nuovo Record seat post (borrowed from my Raleigh Professional) I have a Velo Orange seat post and Cardiff Mercia saddle waiting at home to go on the bike for tomorrow's riding. We'll see how that changes things. This weekend I will be fitting Velo Orange 52mm alloy fenders and will get photos on the first sunny day after that. :) Cheers, Karl -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne First Impressions
Well for me this was a big stretch budget wise, but I'm glad that I did it. I promised myself that if I stuck with commuting by bike that I'd get an upgrade. Well it has been just over two years of 365 day a year commuting and so my wife suggested it was time. We had visited Rivendell when we were down in the Bay Area two years ago and she liked them as much as I did. I was happy to take her up on it. Today I was stopped twice by people admiring the bike! It was partly sunny and there were lots of commuters out. A guy on a super clean and nice Raleigh Super Course with Nervex lugs shouted to me as he rode down a different path as it Y-ed. That was fun. :) Just put the VO seat post, Cardiff saddle and VO chain stay protector (elk hide) on the bike and it looks great! For the record, that UO-8 has been a real champion commuter. It's a long frame and I built a set of wheels for it (Pelissier hubs and Super Champion rims) and it's very comfortable, lowly as the construction might be. It will continue to do duty whenever I have to lock a bike up outside. I still recommend that bike to anyone on a budget. But I'm happy I got the Hillborne! Cheers, Karl On Jun 17, 5:47 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Man! That's quite an upgrade, from a U08 to even a made in Taiwan Rivendell! I decided some time ago that, because one of my Riv customs was hanging on the wall while I rode (fixed gear) beaters to work, that I would have the Riv converted to fixed and use it for commuting. I have had no regrets about this since. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Free: Nike bike shoes (non-spd)
90's flavored purpleicious: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3636513151/ Nice solid build. Minimal use. Actual cow-parts used on them. Non-SPD, so ibob/Rivendell approved! Size is stated 40.5/7.5US. Shipping flat rate $10 via USPS priority mail flat rate box. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Free: Nike bike shoes (non-spd)
Wow. Wow! On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:05 PM, David Estescyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: 90's flavored purpleicious: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3636513151/ Nice solid build. Minimal use. Actual cow-parts used on them. Non-SPD, so ibob/Rivendell approved! Size is stated 40.5/7.5US. Shipping flat rate $10 via USPS priority mail flat rate box. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Free: Nike bike shoes (non-spd)
I betcha' they would look just awesome with a brand new Gunnar! On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. Wow! On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:05 PM, David Estescyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: 90's flavored purpleicious: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3636513151/ Nice solid build. Minimal use. Actual cow-parts used on them. Non-SPD, so ibob/Rivendell approved! Size is stated 40.5/7.5US. Shipping flat rate $10 via USPS priority mail flat rate box. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: SF Question
I'd recommend downtown SF as a first choice, since you can BART out to Walnut Creek (Riv HQ) with a bike during commute hours, but not IN to SF. See http://511.org for schedules, routes and such. Hotels will all be pricey. SF also gives you the option to ride out over the Golden Gate bridge into Marin. Emeryville has several hotels that would be cheaper than SF and very conveniently located. My company puts up visitors from other offices there. You do have to get to MacArthur BART, (which is quite close) either on your bike or on the free Emery-go-Round bus. MacArthur also has direct BART service later than the Rockridge line, so you don't need to transfer to get home after a dinner. It is a bit sketchier neighborhood than Rockridge BART. Rockridge is wonderful for restaurants and tooling around, but has no accomodations. Rockridge and MacArthur BART are both in Oakland. Walnut Creek also has a couple of hotels, but you'll be in suburbia. Nice, upscale suburbia, but not really in SF. The BART stop there is very close to Riv. I'd not recommend Berkeley unless you want to be in Berkeley. It's only half way between SF and WC if you ride over the top of the hills, not as the train rolls. Sounds like you are looking for the gallery/city/SF experience more than the bike over the east bay hills and/or marin experience, so you'll want to hunt for a discount rate somewhere in the city, with Emeryville as a backup. On Jun 17, 2:17 pm, Robert Kirkpatrick spiralc...@gmail.com wrote: A question for the SF area RBWO-ers: Say you are coming into town via the Amtrak (the Emeryville station seems to be the closest to the city I believe) with one's bicycle and you wanted to see things such as Riv World Headquarters, SFMOMA and other art galleries. So any suggestions on where to stay area wise or actual hotel suggestions would be much appreciated. I'm pretty cool with cycling or walking around the city and definitely am cool with the BART and such. I think I'd rather be closer to the gallery zone (which seems to be within Misson/Market and 1st/4th) and BART/Bicycle out to other activities but I also don't want to fork over my first born. Anyway any and all advice is appreciated. thanks, Robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
