[RBW] Re: SRAM X7 rear derailleur

[Kevin McNamee]

No, Shimano uses a 2:1 ratio. The only way you can use it is if you use 
something like Jtek's Shiftmate.

Rene wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> A technical question here. Can I use the SRAM X7 rear derailleur with
> an 8-speed or 9-speed Shimano shifter? The SRAM X7 has a 1:1 ratio.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Rene
> >
>
>   

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[RBW] Re: Black tire source

[Nicholas Grieco]

On Jun 23, 7:10 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> Black Paselas and Pasela variants are (becoming) widely available. In
> most cases, your LBS can get them for you from the usual distributors.
>
> On Jun 23, 8:48 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Someone asked where the black Paselas came form
>
> >http://www.ebikestop.com/panaracer_pasela_26x15_black_steel-TR2264.php- Hide 
> >quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

As the black sidewall Paselas become more available, are we at risk of
losing the tan sidewall version?

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[RBW] Re: SRAM X7 rear derailleur

[Rene Valbuena]

Thank you all very much for your suggestions and comments. I will stick with
all shimano set-up.

--Rene

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Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:41 PM
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Subject: [RBW] Re: SRAM X7 rear derailleur


I recently bought a Shimano LX rear derailer for $25 from Blue Sky.
 I know that Performance was advertising them for $35 two days ago--
they
may still have them. Not exactly your LBS but sometimes it is
necessary. It
is possible to get a good deal. Qbike.com can be a good place to
start.

Cheers!
cm




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[RBW] Re: DaVinci Cranks

[RM]

My wife and I own a DaVinci Joint Venture tandem that has DaVinci  
cranks. The crank arms are beautifully made high-polished aluminum.  
Everything DaVinci-designed on our tandem functions perfectly. Give  
Todd at DaVinci a call (he'll likely be the one who answers the phone  
anyway). He designed the cranks and always seems happy to talk about  
his bikes and parts designs.

Rob


On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:38 PM, MichaelH wrote:

>
> Has anyone on this list used the DaVinci Cranks?  I have been thinking
> about swapping the double on my commuter for a triple.  I really like
> the Sugino Alpina  compact double for all of my  commuting and around
> town riding, but hope to do some light touring before the summer is
> out and will need something smaller than the 34 x27 low gear I now
> have to negotiate mountains in Vt & NY.  The DaVinci cranks look to be
> quite well made, and offer something they call "single radius" which
> will allow me to install them without buying a new BB. I haven't seen
> them in person, but I understand their products are well regarded.
>
> Michael
> >


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[RBW] Re: SRAM X7 rear derailleur

[cm]

I recently bought a Shimano LX rear derailer for $25 from Blue Sky.
 I know that Performance was advertising them for $35 two days ago--
they
may still have them. Not exactly your LBS but sometimes it is
necessary. It
is possible to get a good deal. Qbike.com can be a good place to
start.

Cheers!
cm
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[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA

[Bruce]

Depends on what underwear you wear. I find wool boxers to be great under MUSA 
shorts and eschew chamois unless I'm on an as yet unbroken in leather saddle. 
The thin merino shorts from RBW are excellent when you want something light. I 
have a couple of pairs of these.  

http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/clothing?a=1&page=4#product=22-606

And there are offerings from Ibex and other places to look at as well. I've had 
great service from UK Army surplus boxers: Undyed wool, and I had to use a 
safety pin to keep the fly closed while riding. YMMV

http://www.northdoorway.com/ProductInfo.aspx?id=3402373

In non wool, these Champion "Active Fit" briefs (got mine for less at Costco) 
are surprisingly good.

http://www.boxerbriefs.com/eshop/10browse.asp?category=Champion

I agree on the Bag Balm or other friction reducer on rides over about 10 miles.






From: GeorgeS 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:02:57 PM
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  That said, these thingsare designed for use with underwear.  If I'm going to 
be on a bike for
more than an hour, I don't want underwear.  I want chamoi (sp?) or
it's new-age equivalent and a load of goop.  Nothing worse than a wad
of underwear in the wrong place and you've still got 40 miles to go.


  
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[RBW] Re: SRAM X7 rear derailleur

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

We tried running a left side Shimano bar-end (friction only) with a
SRAM rear derailleur on a 9s cassette. It wasn't able to hit all 9
gears. The same shifter worked fine when we switched to a Shimano
derailleur.

On Jun 23, 6:51 pm, relistan  wrote:
> Are you indexing?  Or do you mean in friction mode?  In friction it
> should work just fine.
>
> Karl
>
> On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Rene  wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
>
> > A technical question here. Can I use the SRAM X7 rear derailleur with
> > an 8-speed or 9-speed Shimano shifter? The SRAM X7 has a 1:1 ratio.
>
> > Thank you very much.
>
> > Rene
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[RBW] Re: Black tire source

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Black Paselas and Pasela variants are (becoming) widely available. In
most cases, your LBS can get them for you from the usual distributors.

On Jun 23, 8:48 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> Someone asked where the black Paselas came form
>
> http://www.ebikestop.com/panaracer_pasela_26x15_black_steel-TR2264.php
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[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA

[GeorgeS]

I recently purchased a pair of MUSA shorts and a pair of the
knickers.  They are well designed, extremely comfortable and certainly
worth the price.  I've been wearing one or the other daily.  It's nice
to be able to go into a coffee shop (or where I am, a country store)
without people snickering at one's outfit.  That said, these things
are designed for use with underwear.  If I'm going to be on a bike for
more than an hour, I don't want underwear.  I want chamoi (sp?) or
it's new-age equivalent and a load of goop.  Nothing worse than a wad
of underwear in the wrong place and you've still got 40 miles to go.
GeorgeS

On Jun 19, 3:45 pm, Bill Rhea  wrote:
> I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line.  I think he
> deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own
> horn a bit.
>
> I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production
> run.  While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the
> park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style,
> value, and sweat-shop avoidance.  The only days I don’t wear them are
> when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts.
> Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long
> sleeves?
>
> I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite
> frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights.
> $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts  I
> guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit
> puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on
> the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions
> do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes,
> but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational
> cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley.
> I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in
> San Mateo County.  Not commuting, not on the weekends.  Where is
> everybody?
>
> -br
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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 Honey Special

[cm]

The saddle has been claimed. Thanks to all those who expressed an
interest.

Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: Broken Fender

[JoelMatthews]

I had a front Honjo bust where it bolts in under the fender. This
happened off road.  I understand some people use an L bracket to avoid
this.

The Honjos on my city bike kept getting bent out of shape.  Presumably
from knucklehead fellow bikers at bike stands.

I decided to go with Berthouds and SKS.  Berthouds have a few dents,
but hold their form admirably.

On Jun 23, 6:56 pm, MichaelH  wrote:
> I noticed some unusual rattling from my rear Honjo fender today, and a
> close inspection revealed a crack at the seat stay bridge attachment.
> This one threads directly into the bridge.  The fender is about a year
> old, and has between 3 & 4,000 miles on it.  I put a small rubber
> washer between the fender and the stay and a metal washer on the
> inside.
>
> I had another rear Honjo fender break on me with just about the same
> amount of milage.  That one was on a different bike, and broke at the
> rear fender stay.  I attributed that break to having installed it with
> a single bolt at the rear fender.  This one went on with two bolts and
> remains quite tight at both the chain stay and fender stay.
>
> I live a couple of niles down a dirt road and this fender probably
> spent close to a third of its life on dirt roads.  And the general
> condition of paved roads here in northern Vt is abysmal.  There are a
> few sections on my daily commute that regularly rattle parts off the
> bike if they are not attached tightly.  But the incident leaves me
> wondering if these Al. fenders - which I love for their good looks,
> their light weight, full coverage, and firm stay in place manners -
> are tough enough for the task.  I don't expect a fender to last
> forever but longer than this.  What have others experienced?  Should I
> switch to steel, or revery to plastic and a big mud flap?
>
> Michael
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[RBW] Black tire source

[Bruce]

Someone asked where the black Paselas came form



http://www.ebikestop.com/panaracer_pasela_26x15_black_steel-TR2264.php



  
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[RBW] Re: Inspired by new builds: Road Standard pic

[Horace]

Just get a custom :-)

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:34 PM, rcnute wrote:
>
> Purty.  Where's a 56 when you need one?  :)
>
> On Jun 23, 12:35 pm, Brewster Fong  wrote:
>> On Jun 23, 12:11 pm, rcnute  wrote:> I wish I had been 
>> into bikes back when Riv was making those.
>>
>> What size do you ride? There's a couple on SF CL:
>>
>> 53cmhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1236010770.html
>>
>> 60cmhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1234996209.html
>>
>> Good Luck!
> >
>

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[RBW] Re: Broken Fender

[MichaelH]

I need to correct myself about the first fender.  I found the part
down in the basement and it broke in exactly the same place this one
did - right at the brake bridge.

Michael

On Jun 23, 7:56 pm, MichaelH  wrote:
> I noticed some unusual rattling from my rear Honjo fender today, and a
> close inspection revealed a crack at the seat stay bridge attachment.
> This one threads directly into the bridge.  The fender is about a year
> old, and has between 3 & 4,000 miles on it.  I put a small rubber
> washer between the fender and the stay and a metal washer on the
> inside.
>
> I had another rear Honjo fender break on me with just about the same
> amount of milage.  That one was on a different bike, and broke at the
> rear fender stay.  I attributed that break to having installed it with
> a single bolt at the rear fender.  This one went on with two bolts and
> remains quite tight at both the chain stay and fender stay.
>
> I live a couple of niles down a dirt road and this fender probably
> spent close to a third of its life on dirt roads.  And the general
> condition of paved roads here in northern Vt is abysmal.  There are a
> few sections on my daily commute that regularly rattle parts off the
> bike if they are not attached tightly.  But the incident leaves me
> wondering if these Al. fenders - which I love for their good looks,
> their light weight, full coverage, and firm stay in place manners -
> are tough enough for the task.  I don't expect a fender to last
> forever but longer than this.  What have others experienced?  Should I
> switch to steel, or revery to plastic and a big mud flap?
>
> Michael
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[RBW] Re: SRAM X7 rear derailleur

[Eric Daume]

SRAM 1:1 won't index with Shimano due to the cable pull difference. Friction
might work.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Rene Valbuena wrote:

>
> Karl,
>
> Thank you. I am thinking of indexing either with 8- or 9-speed shifter if
> it's possible. The reason I am asking is that the SRAM X7 is less costly by
> more than 50% than a Shimano mountain bike rear derailleur.
>
> Rene
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of relistan
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:52 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: SRAM X7 rear derailleur
>
>
> Are you indexing?  Or do you mean in friction mode?  In friction it
> should work just fine.
>
> Karl
>
> On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Rene  wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > A technical question here. Can I use the SRAM X7 rear derailleur with
> > an 8-speed or 9-speed Shimano shifter? The SRAM X7 has a 1:1 ratio.
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > Rene
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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[RBW] Re: SRAM X7 rear derailleur

[Rene Valbuena]

Karl,

Thank you. I am thinking of indexing either with 8- or 9-speed shifter if
it's possible. The reason I am asking is that the SRAM X7 is less costly by
more than 50% than a Shimano mountain bike rear derailleur.

Rene

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Are you indexing?  Or do you mean in friction mode?  In friction it
should work just fine.

Karl

On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Rene  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> A technical question here. Can I use the SRAM X7 rear derailleur with
> an 8-speed or 9-speed Shimano shifter? The SRAM X7 has a 1:1 ratio.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Rene




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[RBW] Broken Fender

[MichaelH]

I noticed some unusual rattling from my rear Honjo fender today, and a
close inspection revealed a crack at the seat stay bridge attachment.
This one threads directly into the bridge.  The fender is about a year
old, and has between 3 & 4,000 miles on it.  I put a small rubber
washer between the fender and the stay and a metal washer on the
inside.

I had another rear Honjo fender break on me with just about the same
amount of milage.  That one was on a different bike, and broke at the
rear fender stay.  I attributed that break to having installed it with
a single bolt at the rear fender.  This one went on with two bolts and
remains quite tight at both the chain stay and fender stay.

I live a couple of niles down a dirt road and this fender probably
spent close to a third of its life on dirt roads.  And the general
condition of paved roads here in northern Vt is abysmal.  There are a
few sections on my daily commute that regularly rattle parts off the
bike if they are not attached tightly.  But the incident leaves me
wondering if these Al. fenders - which I love for their good looks,
their light weight, full coverage, and firm stay in place manners -
are tough enough for the task.  I don't expect a fender to last
forever but longer than this.  What have others experienced?  Should I
switch to steel, or revery to plastic and a big mud flap?

Michael
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[RBW] Re: SRAM X7 rear derailleur

[relistan]

Are you indexing?  Or do you mean in friction mode?  In friction it
should work just fine.

Karl

On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Rene  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> A technical question here. Can I use the SRAM X7 rear derailleur with
> an 8-speed or 9-speed Shimano shifter? The SRAM X7 has a 1:1 ratio.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Rene
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[RBW] Re: Inspired by new builds: Road Standard pic

[rcnute]

Purty.  Where's a 56 when you need one?  :)

On Jun 23, 12:35 pm, Brewster Fong  wrote:
> On Jun 23, 12:11 pm, rcnute  wrote:> I wish I had been 
> into bikes back when Riv was making those.
>
> What size do you ride? There's a couple on SF CL:
>
> 53cmhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1236010770.html
>
> 60cmhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1234996209.html
>
> Good Luck!
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[RBW] SRAM X7 rear derailleur

[Rene]

Hi guys,

A technical question here. Can I use the SRAM X7 rear derailleur with
an 8-speed or 9-speed Shimano shifter? The SRAM X7 has a 1:1 ratio.

Thank you very much.

Rene
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[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes

[Marty]

Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and
a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about
such things?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/

Marty

On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn  wrote:
> I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about
> standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet
> that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt
> even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a
> pleasant surprise.
>
> The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I
> would like to
> get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the
> upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough
> weight to counteract
> the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a
> hair lacking
> in the motor skill department as well.
>
> I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch
> too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is
> also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the
> great the water sport.
>
> On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank  wrote:
>
> > My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and
> > (added) interruptor cross levers.  The bike should fit him for several
> > years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and
> > braking.  He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really
> > enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to "all safe
> > routes". It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced
> > like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment.
>
> > On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn  wrote:
>
> > > I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225.  Mostly to teach him
> > > about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more
> > > comefortable seat and different bars. 
> > > :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/
>
> > > What do RBW owners put their children on?
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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 Honey Special

[Rick]

Chris, I dropped you a line on your email.  Rick.

On Jun 23, 3:30 pm, cm  wrote:
> I have a new Brooks B17 Honey Special with Copper rails and rivets. It
> has been mounted and ridden around the block, but that is it. It has
> also been treated with Obenauf's. I don't have the tag. I am willing
> to sell it for $80 including shipping in the CONUS.
>
> Any questions let me know.
>
> Cheers,
> cm
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[RBW] Re: DaVinci Cranks

[Dustin Sharp]

Not an answer to your question, but while you are shopping, you should also
consider Middleburn cranks:

http://www.mtbtandems.com/Middleburn.html

I've been pretty happy with mine.

Dustin


> From: MichaelH 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:38:09 -0700 (PDT)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Subject: [RBW] DaVinci Cranks
> 
> 
> Has anyone on this list used the DaVinci Cranks?  I have been thinking
> about swapping the double on my commuter for a triple.  I really like
> the Sugino Alpina  compact double for all of my  commuting and around
> town riding, but hope to do some light touring before the summer is
> out and will need something smaller than the 34 x27 low gear I now
> have to negotiate mountains in Vt & NY.  The DaVinci cranks look to be
> quite well made, and offer something they call "single radius" which
> will allow me to install them without buying a new BB. I haven't seen
> them in person, but I understand their products are well regarded.
> 
> Michael
> > 
> 



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[RBW] DaVinci Cranks

[MichaelH]

Has anyone on this list used the DaVinci Cranks?  I have been thinking
about swapping the double on my commuter for a triple.  I really like
the Sugino Alpina  compact double for all of my  commuting and around
town riding, but hope to do some light touring before the summer is
out and will need something smaller than the 34 x27 low gear I now
have to negotiate mountains in Vt & NY.  The DaVinci cranks look to be
quite well made, and offer something they call "single radius" which
will allow me to install them without buying a new BB. I haven't seen
them in person, but I understand their products are well regarded.

Michael
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[RBW] Re: Inspired by new builds: Road Standard pic

[Brewster Fong]

On Jun 23, 12:11 pm, rcnute  wrote:
> I wish I had been into bikes back when Riv was making those.
>
What size do you ride? There's a couple on SF CL:

53cm
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1236010770.html

60cm
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1234996209.html

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[RBW] FS: Brooks B17 Honey Special

[cm]

I have a new Brooks B17 Honey Special with Copper rails and rivets. It
has been mounted and ridden around the block, but that is it. It has
also been treated with Obenauf's. I don't have the tag. I am willing
to sell it for $80 including shipping in the CONUS.

Any questions let me know.

Cheers,
cm
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[RBW] Re: Inspired by new builds: Road Standard pic

[rcnute]

I wish I had been into bikes back when Riv was making those.

On Jun 23, 11:01 am, J L  wrote:
> With all the new builds people are sharing on this group I have been
> inspired to share my newest build on an old friend.  I changed from Ritchey
> WCS (50,34) compact cranks to a Campy Veloce double (53, 39) and replaced
> the XTR long cage rear d with an XT medium cage - what a difference!  The
> big news in the new build is the Nitto Noodle bars, just like everyone else
> who likes them, I adore these handle bars.  There are a few little things I
> really like about this bike: the pedals were salvaged of a junked Diamond
> Back mountain bike, the seat bag is just big enough for two Knog Frog safty
> lights, a patch kit, and tire levers, and I am still riding on these Ritchey
> OCR wheels because 'if it aint broke, don't fix it'.
>
> Jason
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/subfascia1/3653969197/
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[RBW] Inspired by new builds: Road Standard pic

[J L]

With all the new builds people are sharing on this group I have been
inspired to share my newest build on an old friend.  I changed from Ritchey
WCS (50,34) compact cranks to a Campy Veloce double (53, 39) and replaced
the XTR long cage rear d with an XT medium cage - what a difference!  The
big news in the new build is the Nitto Noodle bars, just like everyone else
who likes them, I adore these handle bars.  There are a few little things I
really like about this bike: the pedals were salvaged of a junked Diamond
Back mountain bike, the seat bag is just big enough for two Knog Frog safty
lights, a patch kit, and tire levers, and I am still riding on these Ritchey
OCR wheels because 'if it aint broke, don't fix it'.

Jason

http://www.flickr.com/photos/subfascia1/3653969197/

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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[Bruce]

The ride is wonderful btw. Every bit as fast, but more comfortable than before, 
with the tires up at around 65 psi.

Has me thinking about Grand Bois Hetres for the Saluki. But that's another 
e-list...





From: relistan 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:58:04 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style


Those beefy tires look good on there.  Haven't seen those on a
Rambouillet before.  Looks like a great ride!

Karl


  
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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[Bruce]

Kind of Rambolantis looking, I hope :)

Thanks for the kind words





From: relistan 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:58:04 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style


Those beefy tires look good on there.  Haven't seen those on a
Rambouillet before.  Looks like a great ride!


  
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[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes

[Jay Sinn]

I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about
standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet
that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt
even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a
pleasant surprise.

The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I
would like to
get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the
upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough
weight to counteract
the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a
hair lacking
in the motor skill department as well.

I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch
too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is
also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the
great the water sport.

On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank  wrote:
> My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and
> (added) interruptor cross levers.  The bike should fit him for several
> years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and
> braking.  He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really
> enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to "all safe
> routes". It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced
> like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment.
>
> On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn  wrote:
>
> > I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225.  Mostly to teach him
> > about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more
> > comefortable seat and different bars. 
> > :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/
>
> > What do RBW owners put their children on?
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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

Ah, gotcha.  Looked like a 56 with the longer headtube.

Pete

On Jun 23, 9:11 am, Bruce  wrote:
> No. The frame is a 52 cm, and takes 26" rims. That is what you see.
>
> 
> From: Pete Ruckelshaus 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:08:33 AM
> Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style
>
> Are those 650b wheels?
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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[Gino Zahnd]

For the Ram, I never could like the way any tire larger than 28 rides.
For me, putting large tires on the Ram takes out the lively feel, the
crisp cornering at 45mph, and it feels too squishy when climbing.

I've been running Conti 25's or 28's on the Ram for a long time now,
and that seems to be the sweet spot for that bike if speed is a
concern. And, fenders fit when winter rolls 'round in California.

On the other hand, the squishy-n-fast 42mm Hetres on the Saluki are
where my fat road tire love lies. I rode a century on that bike this
weekend, and it was my fastest time on this particular course, ever.
By quite a margin.

 Gino '25's and Dura Ace STI on my Ram' Z.




On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Mike wrote:
>
> I've put JBs on my Rambouillet and Panaracer T-Serves (black Paselas)
> 35s on my AHH. Both bikes seem a little better for it. Still, I'll
> probably go back to Pasela 32s on the Rambouillet at some point.
>
> Here's the Rambouillet:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3653004212/
>
> And the Hilsen:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3604579217/in/set-72157613195465589/
>
> I've since put fenders back on the Hilsen and will eventually put the
> T-serves on my commuter and the commuter's Paselas on the Hilsen.
>
> I agree with James about liking tan sidewalls even if my get so
> covered with crude from the rain they no longer look tan.
>
> --mike
>

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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[Mike]

I've put JBs on my Rambouillet and Panaracer T-Serves (black Paselas)
35s on my AHH. Both bikes seem a little better for it. Still, I'll
probably go back to Pasela 32s on the Rambouillet at some point.

Here's the Rambouillet:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3653004212/

And the Hilsen:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3604579217/in/set-72157613195465589/

I've since put fenders back on the Hilsen and will eventually put the
T-serves on my commuter and the commuter's Paselas on the Hilsen.

I agree with James about liking tan sidewalls even if my get so
covered with crude from the rain they no longer look tan.

--mike


On Jun 23, 8:25 am, James Warren  wrote:
> What stands out for me regarding Bruce's bike is the fact that that Ram blue 
> always seemed kind of weird to me, but now with the right black accessories, 
> it really pops.
>
> It's interesting: the AHH blue looks really good when the trim is honey but 
> not as much for the Ram blue. The AHH blue would probably also look good set 
> up like Bruce's bike though.
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: relistan 
> >Sent: Jun 23, 2009 7:58 AM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style
>
> >Those beefy tires look good on there.  Haven't seen those on a
> >Rambouillet before.  Looks like a great ride!
>
> >Karl
>
> >On Jun 22, 4:47 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> >> Inspired by all the great new build pics, I tweaked the boo yay last 
> >> night. Stripped off the interrupter brake handles (gives more room on the 
> >> size 42 bars) and replaced the brake cables and housings of course. (Only 
> >> 1 cable of the original factory set was rusting, but I replaced both with 
> >> nice NOS Suntour stuff.) Had to unwrap the bars to do it, so the re wrap 
> >> is with some Brooks black tape bought on sale a while ago and waiting for 
> >> the oppty to arise. The factory wheelset is now in the attic, and these 
> >> are Velocity Aeroheat / Phil wheels running 37 mm all black Paselas.  I 
> >> finished it off with a just received (from the May 1 order window opening) 
> >> Acorn tri-fold. (I like the bag btw) Presented for your possible 
> >> interest
>
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/3652390292/in/photostream/
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[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes

[David Estes]

That is awesome!

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Frank  wrote:

>
> Here's a photograph for reference:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/3653653035/
>
>
> On Jun 23, 8:32 am, Frank  wrote:
> > My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and
> > (added) interruptor cross levers.  The bike should fit him for several
> > years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and
> > braking.  He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really
> > enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to "all safe
> > routes". It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced
> > like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment.
> >
> > On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225.  Mostly to teach him
> > > about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more
> > > comefortable seat and different bars. :)
> http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/
> >
> > > What do RBW owners put their children on?
> >
>


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David
Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes

[David Estes]

Right now I'm thinking of converting the "jump
bmx"
to a geared bike, then I have a old 600A
framethat barely
fits a 650c Nexus
wheel.


I'm on the lookout for old 24" and 650c "traditional" road bikes all the
time.  The vast majority of 650c bikes are tri-bikes, but older steel road
bikes pop up on ebay now and then.

Kona's 24" Jake cross
bike is pretty cool, too.

I wouldn't mind finding a 24" mtn. bike tbut they're all so heavy and with
suspension.  Would like to find a lighter/rigid 24" one some day, but don't
know if they exist.

DE

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:18 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Catie turned 8 on June 8th. I had promised her a new bike if she finally
> learned to ride her Electra Little Betty sans training wheels -- Catie is
> intellectually and artistically precocious but somewhat retrograde in her
> gross motor skills: tall and klutzy, as I was as a boy (but a lot prettier).
> She put her mind to it and did so, so I bought her this:
> http://www.rei.com/product/781229
>
> Hers is the 24" wheel model: 3 speed coaster brake hub, aluminum frame and
> parts -- lighter by far than the Little Betty and even lighter compared to
> the Magna/Raleigh 16" wheel bike her mother bought her, which weighs close
> to what my Monocog 29er weighs. The townie is not a bad bike, though it
> comes only in pink, which is *so* six year old.
>
> Catie started out with a Radio Flyer trike with freewheel and optional
> remote parent steering, then I bought her a little 12" wheel bike, then a
> 16" wheel bike while her mother bought her the Raleigh-so-called. The the
> Little Betty at five, and now the Townie. Quite a collection for someone whe
> didn't leave the training wheels behind until a month ago.
>
> >
>


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Cheers,
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Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes

[Frank]

Here's a photograph for reference:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/3653653035/


On Jun 23, 8:32 am, Frank  wrote:
> My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and
> (added) interruptor cross levers.  The bike should fit him for several
> years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and
> braking.  He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really
> enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to "all safe
> routes". It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced
> like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment.
>
> On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225.  Mostly to teach him
> > about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more
> > comefortable seat and different bars. 
> > :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/
>
> > What do RBW owners put their children on?
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[RBW] Big Tire Ram Rom (was A slight change in style)

[James Warren]

Esteban,
That's outstanding. I too have Hilsenized my Ram, or maybe I should say 
JackBrownized. There seems to be no going back, those tires are so good.

It's not hard but it's a tiny bit of a project to make it work: you either need 
brake levers with extra QR or the new Tektro big mouth brake to make it work. 
If you go with normal Shimano brakes and levers with the extra QR, you still 
have to set up the brakes with the barrel adjuster most of the way up. Taking 
off the wheel then requires turning the barrel all the way CW and releasing 
both QR's, but I've got no problem with all of that. It's all totally worth it 
if you don't need fender space.

-Jim

-Original Message-
>From: Esteban 
>Sent: Jun 23, 2009 8:02 AM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style
>
>
>Very cool.  Quite a number of people have "Hilsen-ized" thier Ram/
>Roms, including me:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3521387026/in/set-72157615808228445/
>
>But you've darn near Atlantis-ized yours!  Nice how little changes can
>make such a difference in the ride.
>
>Esteban
>San Diego, Calif.
>
>On Jun 23, 7:58 am, relistan  wrote:
>> Those beefy tires look good on there.  Haven't seen those on a
>> Rambouillet before.  Looks like a great ride!
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> On Jun 22, 4:47 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Inspired by all the great new build pics, I tweaked the boo yay last 
>> > night. Stripped off the interrupter brake handles (gives more room on the 
>> > size 42 bars) and replaced the brake cables and housings of course. (Only 
>> > 1 cable of the original factory set was rusting, but I replaced both with 
>> > nice NOS Suntour stuff.) Had to unwrap the bars to do it, so the re wrap 
>> > is with some Brooks black tape bought on sale a while ago and waiting for 
>> > the oppty to arise. The factory wheelset is now in the attic, and these 
>> > are Velocity Aeroheat / Phil wheels running 37 mm all black Paselas.  I 
>> > finished it off with a just received (from the May 1 order window opening) 
>> > Acorn tri-fold. (I like the bag btw) Presented for your possible 
>> > interest
>>
>> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/3652390292/in/photostream/
>>


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[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes

[Frank]

My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and
(added) interruptor cross levers.  The bike should fit him for several
years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and
braking.  He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really
enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to "all safe
routes". It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced
like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment.

On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn  wrote:
> I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225.  Mostly to teach him
> about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more
> comefortable seat and different bars. 
> :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/
>
> What do RBW owners put their children on?
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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[James Warren]

What stands out for me regarding Bruce's bike is the fact that that Ram blue 
always seemed kind of weird to me, but now with the right black accessories, it 
really pops. 

It's interesting: the AHH blue looks really good when the trim is honey but not 
as much for the Ram blue. The AHH blue would probably also look good set up 
like Bruce's bike though.

 
-Original Message-
>From: relistan 
>Sent: Jun 23, 2009 7:58 AM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style
>
>
>Those beefy tires look good on there.  Haven't seen those on a
>Rambouillet before.  Looks like a great ride!
>
>Karl
>
>On Jun 22, 4:47 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>> Inspired by all the great new build pics, I tweaked the boo yay last night. 
>> Stripped off the interrupter brake handles (gives more room on the size 42 
>> bars) and replaced the brake cables and housings of course. (Only 1 cable of 
>> the original factory set was rusting, but I replaced both with nice NOS 
>> Suntour stuff.) Had to unwrap the bars to do it, so the re wrap is with some 
>> Brooks black tape bought on sale a while ago and waiting for the oppty to 
>> arise. The factory wheelset is now in the attic, and these are Velocity 
>> Aeroheat / Phil wheels running 37 mm all black Paselas.  I finished it off 
>> with a just received (from the May 1 order window opening) Acorn tri-fold. 
>> (I like the bag btw) Presented for your possible interest
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/3652390292/in/photostream/
>>


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[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes

[PATRICK MOORE]

Catie turned 8 on June 8th. I had promised her a new bike if she finally
learned to ride her Electra Little Betty sans training wheels -- Catie is
intellectually and artistically precocious but somewhat retrograde in her
gross motor skills: tall and klutzy, as I was as a boy (but a lot prettier).
She put her mind to it and did so, so I bought her this:
http://www.rei.com/product/781229

Hers is the 24" wheel model: 3 speed coaster brake hub, aluminum frame and
parts -- lighter by far than the Little Betty and even lighter compared to
the Magna/Raleigh 16" wheel bike her mother bought her, which weighs close
to what my Monocog 29er weighs. The townie is not a bad bike, though it
comes only in pink, which is *so* six year old.

Catie started out with a Radio Flyer trike with freewheel and optional
remote parent steering, then I bought her a little 12" wheel bike, then a
16" wheel bike while her mother bought her the Raleigh-so-called. The the
Little Betty at five, and now the Townie. Quite a collection for someone whe
didn't leave the training wheels behind until a month ago.

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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[David Estes]

priorities, man... :-)

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:09 AM, James Warren wrote:

>
> snip
>
> -James
>
> who really, really wishes he could go on the Orange County ride on
> Saturday, but every time these things come up, there is a conflict and I
> can't go. 3rd time in a row, not to mention both Rivendell rides at RBWHQ.
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: JGS 
> >Sent: Jun 23, 2009 6:57 AM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style
> >
> >
> >Looks great!  Where did you find all black paselas?  I'd love a pair
> >of those!
> >
> >On Jun 22, 7:47 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> >> Inspired by all the great new build pics, I tweaked the boo yay last
> night. Stripped off the interrupter brake handles (gives more room on the
> size 42 bars) and replaced the brake cables and housings of course. (Only 1
> cable of the original factory set was rusting, but I replaced both with nice
> NOS Suntour stuff.) Had to unwrap the bars to do it, so the re wrap is with
> some Brooks black tape bought on sale a while ago and waiting for the oppty
> to arise. The factory wheelset is now in the attic, and these are Velocity
> Aeroheat / Phil wheels running 37 mm all black Paselas.  I finished it off
> with a just received (from the May 1 order window opening) Acorn tri-fold.
> (I like the bag btw) Presented for your possible interest
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/3652390292/in/photostream/
> >>
>
>
> >
>


-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[Bill Connell]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:09 AM, James Warren wrote:
>
> This heresy creeping through this list and on so many new Rivendell bikes! So 
> many people preferring black sidewalls! What happened to our good fight to 
> keep tan alive. :)
>
> Seriously, Bruce, the bike looks so good that when you said all-black 
> Paselas, I thought, "uh-oh," but then when I saw the photo, I was won over 
> with how the whole bike comes together. I wonder how black fenders would look 
> on it.


I like this new aesthetic of big, bold tires on bikes. It's not just a
black sidewall thing, but it helps when the tires is a single color
(see also the cream Fat Franks). Oddly enough, many road bikes
superficially have this look even with thin tires, because of the tall
aero rims also in fashion. Lots of wheels have that big, substantial
look to them. They look like solid, capable bikes, ready for the
charge. I like it.

-- 
Bill Connell
St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[James Warren]

This heresy creeping through this list and on so many new Rivendell bikes! So 
many people preferring black sidewalls! What happened to our good fight to keep 
tan alive. :)

Seriously, Bruce, the bike looks so good that when you said all-black Paselas, 
I thought, "uh-oh," but then when I saw the photo, I was won over with how the 
whole bike comes together. I wonder how black fenders would look on it.

Back to my little quip, I remember back in 94-95 or so, when I replaced the 
stock tires on my MB-4, I was kind of bummed that the new all-black ones didn't 
look as good as the tan sidewalls. I held that opinion ever since, and I 
sometimes feel compelled to tell my friends, "hey, I was into tan sidewalls 
before Rivendell even existed."

-James

who really, really wishes he could go on the Orange County ride on Saturday, 
but every time these things come up, there is a conflict and I can't go. 3rd 
time in a row, not to mention both Rivendell rides at RBWHQ.

-Original Message-
>From: JGS 
>Sent: Jun 23, 2009 6:57 AM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style
>
>
>Looks great!  Where did you find all black paselas?  I'd love a pair
>of those!
>
>On Jun 22, 7:47 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>> Inspired by all the great new build pics, I tweaked the boo yay last night. 
>> Stripped off the interrupter brake handles (gives more room on the size 42 
>> bars) and replaced the brake cables and housings of course. (Only 1 cable of 
>> the original factory set was rusting, but I replaced both with nice NOS 
>> Suntour stuff.) Had to unwrap the bars to do it, so the re wrap is with some 
>> Brooks black tape bought on sale a while ago and waiting for the oppty to 
>> arise. The factory wheelset is now in the attic, and these are Velocity 
>> Aeroheat / Phil wheels running 37 mm all black Paselas.  I finished it off 
>> with a just received (from the May 1 order window opening) Acorn tri-fold. 
>> (I like the bag btw) Presented for your possible interest
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/3652390292/in/photostream/
>>


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[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes

[relistan]

My daughter is much much younger so it's of no help (sorry), but she
rides one of thee:

http://www.skuut.com/

So far so good!

Karl

On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn  wrote:
> I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225.  Mostly to teach him
> about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more
> comefortable seat and different bars. 
> :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/
>
> What do RBW owners put their children on?
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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[Esteban]

Very cool.  Quite a number of people have "Hilsen-ized" thier Ram/
Roms, including me:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3521387026/in/set-72157615808228445/

But you've darn near Atlantis-ized yours!  Nice how little changes can
make such a difference in the ride.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Jun 23, 7:58 am, relistan  wrote:
> Those beefy tires look good on there.  Haven't seen those on a
> Rambouillet before.  Looks like a great ride!
>
> Karl
>
> On Jun 22, 4:47 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Inspired by all the great new build pics, I tweaked the boo yay last night. 
> > Stripped off the interrupter brake handles (gives more room on the size 42 
> > bars) and replaced the brake cables and housings of course. (Only 1 cable 
> > of the original factory set was rusting, but I replaced both with nice NOS 
> > Suntour stuff.) Had to unwrap the bars to do it, so the re wrap is with 
> > some Brooks black tape bought on sale a while ago and waiting for the oppty 
> > to arise. The factory wheelset is now in the attic, and these are Velocity 
> > Aeroheat / Phil wheels running 37 mm all black Paselas.  I finished it off 
> > with a just received (from the May 1 order window opening) Acorn tri-fold. 
> > (I like the bag btw) Presented for your possible interest
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/3652390292/in/photostream/
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[RBW] Childrens bikes

[Jay Sinn]

I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225.  Mostly to teach him
about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more
comefortable seat and different bars. :)
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/

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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[relistan]

Those beefy tires look good on there.  Haven't seen those on a
Rambouillet before.  Looks like a great ride!

Karl

On Jun 22, 4:47 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> Inspired by all the great new build pics, I tweaked the boo yay last night. 
> Stripped off the interrupter brake handles (gives more room on the size 42 
> bars) and replaced the brake cables and housings of course. (Only 1 cable of 
> the original factory set was rusting, but I replaced both with nice NOS 
> Suntour stuff.) Had to unwrap the bars to do it, so the re wrap is with some 
> Brooks black tape bought on sale a while ago and waiting for the oppty to 
> arise. The factory wheelset is now in the attic, and these are Velocity 
> Aeroheat / Phil wheels running 37 mm all black Paselas.  I finished it off 
> with a just received (from the May 1 order window opening) Acorn tri-fold. (I 
> like the bag btw) Presented for your possible interest
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/3652390292/in/photostream/
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[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA

[Seth]

During a few years riding in the hot and humid conditions of New
York's Summer, I found the wool top was great, but generally preferred
the coolest option down below - traditional black riding tighties.
Knickers are appropriate for Spring and Fall.

Best,
Seth
Los Angeles

On Jun 21, 8:47 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> Any of you MUSA knickers owners from the Midwest or Southeast?  I have
> knickers from Swrve, Richard Reisenberg, Chrome and Swobo.  All are
> good, but all seem designed with West Coast weather in mind.  Meaning
> where it is hot, humidity tends be low, and where it is humid, it
> usually is not all that hot.
>
> The only time we have comparable conditions here in the upper Midwest
> is Mid to late September through early November.  Spring is almost
> always too cold for any knickers.  Summer just gets too hot and
> humid.  The Patagonia shorts I use in the Summer are comfortable.  But
> Patagonia does not make (decent riding anyway) shorts that cover the
> knees.   As sun screen does not seem to want to stay on knees, that
> means I usually wind up with sun burn right on the top of the joint.
>
> Maybe if the West Coast swell riding clothes designers could spend a
> couple of hours on a stationary bike in a sauna they could come up
> with something that works for us suffering souls back East.
>
> On Jun 21, 12:12 am, RoadieRyan  wrote:
>
> > I have been thinking about getting some of the shorts so its good to
> > hear all the positive feedback on them, for those who commented about
> > the need for a back knicker, until there is a musa one you might check
> > out  http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html
>
> > RR
>
> > On Jun 19, 5:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> > > I just got back from 17 miles mostly off road, much of it sandy, riding in
> > > heavy cotton shorts and regular underwear. It never occured to me that I
> > > could be uncomfortable. I know that I am fine up to the 30 - 35 miles that
> > > is my typical long ride. Cotton polo on top. No gloves, no helmet, Carolyn
> > > Custom hat, flip up shades -- need the shades to keep my eyes from getting
> > > too red; the cap acts as sun visor and sweat collector.
> > > Riv content: My 2008 Redline Monocog 20er is set up as close to Rivendell
> > > fashion as I can make it. And I wear the same things, in summer, on my two
> > > custom fixed Riv Roads.
>
> > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Bill Rhea  wrote:
>
> > > > I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line.  I think he
> > > > deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own
> > > > horn a bit.
>
> > > > I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production
> > > > run.  While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the
> > > > park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style,
> > > > value, and sweat-shop avoidance.  The only days I don’t wear them are
> > > > when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts.
> > > > Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long
> > > > sleeves?
>
> > > > I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite
> > > > frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights.
> > > > $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts  I
> > > > guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit
> > > > puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on
> > > > the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions
> > > > do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes,
> > > > but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational
> > > > cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley.
> > > > I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in
> > > > San Mateo County.  Not commuting, not on the weekends.  Where is
> > > > everybody?
>
> > > > -br
>
> > > --
> > > Patrick Moore
> > > Albuquerque, NM
> > > Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted 
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[RBW] Re: Fun with a Stuck Seatpost

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I'm with Bill C. Let it soak in a few applications of penetrating oil
for a few days or a few weeks. It would probably be foolish to destroy
the seatpost, since it's at the correct height.


On Jun 23, 5:23 am, Bob  wrote:
> My daily rider, a vintage steel Trek, is now afflicted. This is
> embarrassing, because I remember pulling the post about two years ago
> and slathering it with Phil Wood grease and Park Anti-Seize.  Oh well.
>
> Thus far, I have tried removing the saddle and tapping with a mallet
> and wooden block; heating with a hair dryer after dripping Liquid
> Wrench and other penetrants from all sides; and just about every
> technique Sheldon recommended on his site.
>
> I am trying not do do something so rash that I damage any equipment.
>
> Luckily, the seat height is just about right, but I just can't sleep
> knowing one of my rides has a frozen 'post.
>
> Word to the wise:  Pull your post occasionally, because you can . . .
>
> Peace,
> Bob
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[RBW] Re: Fun with a Stuck Seatpost

[Bill Connell]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Bob wrote:
>
> My daily rider, a vintage steel Trek, is now afflicted. This is
> embarrassing, because I remember pulling the post about two years ago
> and slathering it with Phil Wood grease and Park Anti-Seize.  Oh well.
>
> Thus far, I have tried removing the saddle and tapping with a mallet
> and wooden block; heating with a hair dryer after dripping Liquid
> Wrench and other penetrants from all sides; and just about every
> technique Sheldon recommended on his site.
>
> I am trying not do do something so rash that I damage any equipment.
>
> Luckily, the seat height is just about right, but I just can't sleep
> knowing one of my rides has a frozen 'post.
>
> Word to the wise:  Pull your post occasionally, because you can . . .


You didn't say how long you've been working on it, but it'll likely
take a good 2-3 days for even liquid wrench to get in far enough to
help. Ammonia might help too, but do it outside - i tried it in the
basement on a stuck post and stunk up the place. I ended up cutting
the post out of that bike, my old Bridgestone MB. Vertically cutting a
seatpost with a hacksaw blade is certainly an exercise in patience.

-- 
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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[JGS]

Looks great!  Where did you find all black paselas?  I'd love a pair
of those!

On Jun 22, 7:47 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> Inspired by all the great new build pics, I tweaked the boo yay last night. 
> Stripped off the interrupter brake handles (gives more room on the size 42 
> bars) and replaced the brake cables and housings of course. (Only 1 cable of 
> the original factory set was rusting, but I replaced both with nice NOS 
> Suntour stuff.) Had to unwrap the bars to do it, so the re wrap is with some 
> Brooks black tape bought on sale a while ago and waiting for the oppty to 
> arise. The factory wheelset is now in the attic, and these are Velocity 
> Aeroheat / Phil wheels running 37 mm all black Paselas.  I finished it off 
> with a just received (from the May 1 order window opening) Acorn tri-fold. (I 
> like the bag btw) Presented for your possible interest
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/3652390292/in/photostream/
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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[d2mini]

nice, clean build!


On Jun 23, 8:11 am, Bruce  wrote:
> No. The frame is a 52 cm, and takes 26" rims. That is what you see.
>
> 
> From: Pete Ruckelshaus 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:08:33 AM
> Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style
>
> Are those 650b wheels?
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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

Are those 650b wheels?


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[RBW] Re: A slight change in style

[Bruce]

No. The frame is a 52 cm, and takes 26" rims. That is what you see.





From: Pete Ruckelshaus 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:08:33 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: A slight change in style


Are those 650b wheels?




  
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[RBW] Re: Fun with a Stuck Seatpost

[Bill M.]

It won't help now, but one thing you DON"T want to do is mix greases,
like using both Phil and anti-seize.  Grease is basically oil plus a
thickener, and many of the different thickeners used are chemically
incompatible with each other.  They may react and either lose their
thickening power and get runny, or thicken into a clay-like glob.
Either way, they won't do their job.  So, use Phil OR anti-seize, but
not both.

I've read that soaking in household ammonia will free up a stuck post,
but I've not had to try it.

Bill

On Jun 23, 3:23 am, Bob  wrote:
> My daily rider, a vintage steel Trek, is now afflicted. This is
> embarrassing, because I remember pulling the post about two years ago
> and slathering it with Phil Wood grease and Park Anti-Seize.  Oh well.
>
> Thus far, I have tried removing the saddle and tapping with a mallet
> and wooden block; heating with a hair dryer after dripping Liquid
> Wrench and other penetrants from all sides; and just about every
> technique Sheldon recommended on his site.
>
> I am trying not do do something so rash that I damage any equipment.
>
> Luckily, the seat height is just about right, but I just can't sleep
> knowing one of my rides has a frozen 'post.
>
> Word to the wise:  Pull your post occasionally, because you can . . .
>
> Peace,
> Bob
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[RBW] Re: Fun with a Stuck Seatpost

[Steve]

I have occasionally experienced this too. Eventually it will release.
The ultimate fix is to cut the top of the post off just above the end
of the seat tube, then use a hacksaw blade down inside the post to cut
a slot.  This always works.  Just be careful you don't cut into the
seat tube:  gentle does it with frequent checks using a flashlight.
To prevent freezing, I finally bought a rotary hone for my drill to
clean up the seat tube before inserting the post.  Clean old grease
out of the seat tube using brake cleaner on a rag, then use the hone
to remove corrosion and just barely smooth the walls. Spray Boeshield
or Framesaver to seal it.  Use some 600 grade sandpaper on your old
seat post to likewise remove any aluminum corrosion blooms and smooth
the wall where it inserts into the tube.  Lather with Phil grease,
reinsert, tighten.  For more protection, remove the grease from the
top of the tube and place a tiny silicone bead to seal it and keep
rain out if this is a problem.
And your advice about occasional removal is good.



On Jun 23, 5:23 am, Bob  wrote:
> My daily rider, a vintage steel Trek, is now afflicted. This is
> embarrassing, because I remember pulling the post about two years ago
> and slathering it with Phil Wood grease and Park Anti-Seize.  Oh well.
>
> Thus far, I have tried removing the saddle and tapping with a mallet
> and wooden block; heating with a hair dryer after dripping Liquid
> Wrench and other penetrants from all sides; and just about every
> technique Sheldon recommended on his site.
>
> I am trying not do do something so rash that I damage any equipment.
>
> Luckily, the seat height is just about right, but I just can't sleep
> knowing one of my rides has a frozen 'post.
>
> Word to the wise:  Pull your post occasionally, because you can . . .
>
> Peace,
> Bob
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[RBW] Fun with a Stuck Seatpost

[Bob]

My daily rider, a vintage steel Trek, is now afflicted. This is
embarrassing, because I remember pulling the post about two years ago
and slathering it with Phil Wood grease and Park Anti-Seize.  Oh well.

Thus far, I have tried removing the saddle and tapping with a mallet
and wooden block; heating with a hair dryer after dripping Liquid
Wrench and other penetrants from all sides; and just about every
technique Sheldon recommended on his site.

I am trying not do do something so rash that I damage any equipment.

Luckily, the seat height is just about right, but I just can't sleep
knowing one of my rides has a frozen 'post.

Word to the wise:  Pull your post occasionally, because you can . . .

Peace,
Bob
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