[RBW] FS New Phil Wood Wheels and Bottom Bracket , New Paul Brakes

[Andrew]

Selling a few items for a project I abandoned when I scored a nice
Allrounder. Shipping is not included in the prices.

1. Brand new, professionally built rear wheel with:

-Phil wood 135mm 36 hole CSS633 touring cassette rear FSA hub in
silver
-DT 14/15/14 silver stainless steel butted spokes and nickel brass
nipples
-DYAD 36h Silver 700c Synergy Rims
-Zefal Rim tape

The wheel was built recently, it has never been used or put on a bike,
brand new. I know Rivendell likes the synergys but the DYADs are the
strongest touring rims. These are the most durable wheels you can get.
Rivendell would sell these for around $520. I'll sell mine for $395.

2. Brand new, professionally built front wheel with:

-Phil wood 36 hole CSF600 front touring FSA silver hub
-DT 14/15/14 silver stainless steel butted spokes and nickel brass
nipples
-DYAD 36h Silver 700c Synergy Rims
-Zefal Rim tape

The wheel was also built recently, it has never been used or put on a
bike, brand new. Rivendell would sell these for around $250. I'll sell
mine for $195. Brand new, never installed. I will sell the set for
$575.

3. Brand new never installed Phil Wood 108mm JIS Stainless Steel
Bottom Bracket 68/73mm model BRS08S.  This is good for doubles on most
Riv bikes, or for the Atlantis. $85 for the bottom bracket. $115 with
new phil wood english threaded 68mm stainless steel cups.

4. Brand new still in the bag Paul neo retro silver cantilever brake-
$75

5. Brand new still in the bag Paul Touring silver cantilever brake-$75


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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar da name

[Ethan]

Beat me too it...

On Jan 26, 10:57 pm, Leslie  wrote:
> No, name the cargo bike BILL, after the pony Butterbur got from
> Ferny...
>
> :)
>
> On Jan 26, 10:52 pm, Bill Connell  wrote:
>
> > Maybe when Rivendell makes a cargo bike it'll be named Grond.
>
> > Bill
>
> > --
> > Bill Connell
> > St. Paul, MN

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RE: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Frederick, Steve]

Heh, I carried a complete Turkey leftover dinner in my L'il Joe on a day after 
thanksgiving club ride .  It made quite an impression at the rest stop.  Double 
wrapped in foil it even stayed sorta warm...though it resembled a casserole 
more than individual dishes.

Steve "yes, I'll take some stuffing on my punkin pie," Frederick, East Lansing, 
MI

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of reynoldslugs
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:57 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?


you can have fun with Keven's bag.  I occasionally ride with a rabid
vegan.  Not that there's anything wrong with that, but she's pretty,
well, vocal about it.  So a couple weeks ago at the top of Mt Veeder,
about 2 1/2 hours into the ride, we stopped for a break.  The vegen
began to saw into her larabar, I opened up Keven's bag, and pulled out
a complete  McD's meal - Big Mac and Fries - which I offered to her.

she demurred.

but it was still fun.

On Jan 26, 1:45 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> After a club ride on which another member had to drop off the back, make a 
> mad dash into the woods, and returned without his gloves, I have carried a 
> ziploc with toilet paper folded inside.  
>
> Another handy item is a rubber glove (like a painter's or one you use when 
> doing a hair dye job) which I put over the spare tube to protect it. It's 
> very nice to slip on, grab a chain and pull it out when chain suck occurs, or 
> when taking off a balky rear wheel. You just turn it inside out as you remove 
> it later and stay much cleaner.
>
> 
> From: Brad Gantt 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 3:11:34 PM
> Subject: [RBW] What's in Your Saddlebag?
>
>  I am curious what others in the Bunch find indispensable,
> useful, fun, etc.

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[RBW] Re: RBW Owners Google Map

[Damian]

Thanks for this Bryan,

I've added my beauties in Ireland!

Damian

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Re: [RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights

[Ron Farnsworth]

A handlebar mount has some advantages,
- the ability to adjust light position while riding  
- less water (if raining) and debris flying up from the front wheel (even with 
fenders)
- you can use your hand to partially shield the headlight from walkers (or 
other riders on a bike trail).
- easy on/easy off (if that matters)
- With my DiNotte, I use 2 handlebar bags with no interference problem

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bill M.  wrote:


From: Bill M. 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:23 PM


I've had my pair of home-brewed LED lights on the low-rider bosses on
my Miyata, but thought that that was too low.  It over-emphasized the
road contour and made insignificant undulations look like potholes.
The same lights are currently under are currently mounted to the
supports under a Nashbar front rack at around top-of-wheel height on
my 650b commuter, and I like that position better.  Just low enough to
see some shadows on the road, but not so low as to create them where
they shouldn't be.  Also, having the lights up and further forward
eliminated the shadows cast by the rim and tire, which is nice.

Another thought - if the lights are too low, they will have to be
aimed up higher, and so will have more tendency to shine into the eyes
of oncoming drivers rather than onto the road surface.  Having them
higher lets me tilt them down a bit more to put the light where I want
it.

Axle height would be too low for me.  The fender front stay / light
hoop on many Ebisus would be perfect.  Your lights may vary!

Bill

On Jan 26, 10:55 am, Eric Norris  wrote:
> I just converted the headlight on my QB to a skewer mount that puts it really 
> low.  Does anybody else on this list use headlights mounted that low?  Any 
> tips about adjusting them?  I know that the lower mount is supposed to help 
> the light cast shadows so it's easier to see debris, holes, etc., but my 
> initial impression (about 1/4 of a mile of testing last night) is that the 
> adjustment of the light is very touchy due to the shallow angle.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --Eric
> campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org

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[RBW] Re: all about Walnut Creek (related to Eric's visit!)

[Leslie]

I was in the reserves while I was an undergrad, was out there for a
three-week JTF mission;  and yes, we had to use the buddy system,
too.   And, had a restriction on range ( I couldn't have gone down to
SD or up to SF while out there).   But, I got to know Mulholland well,
from Mugu to Topanga. A LOT of time spent in the bush there.  Bunch of
jarheads from Nashville and Knoxville living in a CP tent on a Seabee
base, we had a good time whilst out there   But, we did get bikes
out of the base's recreation-equipment checkout, so we rode all over
Oxnard a lot

And to think, Rivendell was just about to get started then.   (to
have something on-topic to say  ;) )


On Jan 26, 11:33 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Sounds like you had it better than my brother in
> law.
> He is currently in National Guard training at Camp
> Parksin
> Dublin.  He was totally looking forward to getting up the road to
> RBWWHQ&L to check things out, but they have this lame "buddy system" in
> place.  He can't go anywhere w/out a tag-a-long.  So far, no fellow
> reservists have any interest in lugged steel :-(

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[RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights

[JoelMatthews]

> A handlebar mount has some advantages,

And for the threadless stem people among us (we know you are lurking
around out there) Paul has this swell device:

http://www.paulcomp.com/stemlightmount.html

Probably a real good spot for mountain and cross biking or people who
ride on rough trails (think you call them fire roads out west - we
call them unpaved here in the Midwest where things tend to burn less
frequently).

I like under the front rack where feasible. Especially when you are
parking the bike around town the rack frame protects the light from
josteling.

I saw a Bruce Gordon custom front pannier rack where he put a mount on
the top of the metal that curves around the wheel for stability.
Probably not the best place for a light on a townbike as the light is
exposed.  For touring it puts the light up front and at a decent
height with no chance of the panniers cutting off the light.

On Jan 27, 8:23 am, Ron Farnsworth  wrote:
> A handlebar mount has some advantages,
> - the ability to adjust light position while riding  
> - less water (if raining) and debris flying up from the front wheel (even 
> with fenders)
> - you can use your hand to partially shield the headlight from walkers (or 
> other riders on a bike trail).
> - easy on/easy off (if that matters)
> - With my DiNotte, I use 2 handlebar bags with no interference problem
>
> --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bill M.  wrote:
>
> From: Bill M. 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:23 PM
>
> I've had my pair of home-brewed LED lights on the low-rider bosses on
> my Miyata, but thought that that was too low.  It over-emphasized the
> road contour and made insignificant undulations look like potholes.
> The same lights are currently under are currently mounted to the
> supports under a Nashbar front rack at around top-of-wheel height on
> my 650b commuter, and I like that position better.  Just low enough to
> see some shadows on the road, but not so low as to create them where
> they shouldn't be.  Also, having the lights up and further forward
> eliminated the shadows cast by the rim and tire, which is nice.
>
> Another thought - if the lights are too low, they will have to be
> aimed up higher, and so will have more tendency to shine into the eyes
> of oncoming drivers rather than onto the road surface.  Having them
> higher lets me tilt them down a bit more to put the light where I want
> it.
>
> Axle height would be too low for me.  The fender front stay / light
> hoop on many Ebisus would be perfect.  Your lights may vary!
>
> Bill
>
> On Jan 26, 10:55 am, Eric Norris  wrote:
>
> > I just converted the headlight on my QB to a skewer mount that puts it 
> > really low.  Does anybody else on this list use headlights mounted that 
> > low?  Any tips about adjusting them?  I know that the lower mount is 
> > supposed to help the light cast shadows so it's easier to see debris, 
> > holes, etc., but my initial impression (about 1/4 of a mile of testing last 
> > night) is that the adjustment of the light is very touchy due to the 
> > shallow angle.
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> > --Eric
> > campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org
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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar da name

[Gary]

The name's great. Now what about the geometry? Tube specs? Is it going
to cost a Hunqa money? Is it truly designed to carry a Mammoth load? I
saw the note on the site about more info coming this week but how
about some tidbits now?

On Jan 25, 9:22 pm, Grant Petersen  wrote:
> brustow says:
> "Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
> Is Grant directly
> poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned?"
>
> Grant (that's me) says:
> Nope, there's no deepness to the name, and that wouldn't be a direct,
> anyway.
>
> Not digging the name---I get that. It's not suave or clever or classic. But
> "Hunqapillar" sounds friendly and distinctive to me, and it's not likely to
> blend in with other bike brand names. It seems perfect for the wooly
> mammoth, too.
>
> Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, Saluki, A. Homer Hilsen, Bombadil, Roadeo,
> Glorius, Wilbury, Betty Foy, Yves Gomez, Sam Hillborne, and HUNQAPILLAR.
> See? Fits right in!
>
> G

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar da name

[Gary]

Any chance this one will have a Mammoth 1 1/8 steel fork?

On Jan 27, 6:40 am, Gary  wrote:
> The name's great. Now what about the geometry? Tube specs? Is it going
> to cost a Hunqa money? Is it truly designed to carry a Mammoth load? I
> saw the note on the site about more info coming this week but how
> about some tidbits now?
>
> On Jan 25, 9:22 pm, Grant Petersen  wrote:
>
>
>
> > brustow says:
> > "Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
> > Is Grant directly
> > poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned?"
>
> > Grant (that's me) says:
> > Nope, there's no deepness to the name, and that wouldn't be a direct,
> > anyway.
>
> > Not digging the name---I get that. It's not suave or clever or classic. But
> > "Hunqapillar" sounds friendly and distinctive to me, and it's not likely to
> > blend in with other bike brand names. It seems perfect for the wooly
> > mammoth, too.
>
> > Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, Saluki, A. Homer Hilsen, Bombadil, Roadeo,
> > Glorius, Wilbury, Betty Foy, Yves Gomez, Sam Hillborne, and HUNQAPILLAR.
> > See? Fits right in!
>
> > G- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] RBW and Smile Train

[Mike]

I imagine that a fair amount of you are like me and check the
Rivendell website daily, but for those of you who don't there is a new
post about Smile Train donations. This is really cool. Just one more
reason why Rivendell is the best bicycle company in the world.

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/188

--mike

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[MKahrl]

A Giant Twist-Tie.  It's like a bread bag twist tie only about 2 feet
long and covered in foam.   It's handy for quickly securing your bike
to a small tree or post or another bike.  Also provides padding
between bike and other object.  Can also secure things to the rear
rack or saddlebag.   Since it's bendy you can fold it to whatever size
to fit in the bag and it weighs nearly nothing.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[David Faller]

That has to win the "unique cargo" title so far!  I like it.

  - Original Message - 
  From: MKahrl 
  To: RBW Owners Bunch 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:11 AM
  Subject: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?


  A Giant Twist-Tie.  It's like a bread bag twist tie only about 2 feet
  long and covered in foam.   It's handy for quickly securing your bike
  to a small tree or post or another bike.  Also provides padding
  between bike and other object.  Can also secure things to the rear
  rack or saddlebag.   Since it's bendy you can fold it to whatever size
  to fit in the bag and it weighs nearly nothing.

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Tim McNamara]

On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Brad Gantt wrote:


I'm really enjoying reading this thread. I have gotten some great
ideas for things to add to my kit.


I'm astonished by how much stuff people carry on bike rides, even  
short ones.  Back in my racing/minimalist days I'd go out for a 100  
mile ride with a tube, tire levers, Ritchey CPR tool, spoke wrench in  
a tiny seat pouch and a $10 bill.  My friend Doug has done brevets-  
without the tool and spoke wrench- and nothing added.


Bikes are pretty reliable with a basic maintenance schedule.  I  
almost never have to fix anything other than a puncture on my bikes  
during a ride but have stopped to fix problems with other bikes  
(broken chains, in particular).


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Re: [RBW] Re: all about Walnut Creek (related to Eric's visit!)

[cyclotourist]

Nobody wants to be his buddy for a trip to Walnut Creek :-(

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Leslie  wrote:

> I was in the reserves while I was an undergrad, was out there for a
> three-week JTF mission;  and yes, we had to use the buddy system,
> too.   And, had a restriction on range ( I couldn't have gone down to
> SD or up to SF while out there).   But, I got to know Mulholland well,
> from Mugu to Topanga. A LOT of time spent in the bush there.  Bunch of
> jarheads from Nashville and Knoxville living in a CP tent on a Seabee
> base, we had a good time whilst out there   But, we did get bikes
> out of the base's recreation-equipment checkout, so we rode all over
> Oxnard a lot
>
> And to think, Rivendell was just about to get started then.   (to
> have something on-topic to say  ;) )
>
>
> On Jan 26, 11:33 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Sounds like you had it better than my brother in
> > law.
> > He is currently in National Guard training at Camp
> > Parksin
> > Dublin.  He was totally looking forward to getting up the road to
> > RBWWHQ&L to check things out, but they have this lame "buddy system" in
> > place.  He can't go anywhere w/out a tag-a-long.  So far, no fellow
> > reservists have any interest in lugged steel :-(
>
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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Brad Gantt]

> I'm astonished by how much stuff people carry on bike rides, even  
> short ones.

Yes, it is more often the case that I use my kit to help somebody else
who hasn't been as diligent about maintaining their bike. My current
kit really weighs very little in the end and if I can help somebody
else avoid having to call in evac then it's worth it. Up until quite
recently, I carried the same kit you describe, right down to the
Ritchey CPR tool and it was all I really needed for road riding. Now
doing mixed terrain rides, the likelihood of something going wrong
(particularly with tires) increases a bit.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[CycloFiend]

on 1/27/10 7:29 AM, Tim McNamara at tim...@bitstream.net wrote:

> On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Brad Gantt wrote:
> 
>> I'm really enjoying reading this thread. I have gotten some great
>> ideas for things to add to my kit.
> 
> I'm astonished by how much stuff people carry on bike rides, even
> short ones.  Back in my racing/minimalist days I'd go out for a 100
> mile ride with a tube, tire levers, Ritchey CPR tool, spoke wrench in
> a tiny seat pouch and a $10 bill.  My friend Doug has done brevets-
> without the tool and spoke wrench- and nothing added.
> 
> Bikes are pretty reliable with a basic maintenance schedule.  I
> almost never have to fix anything other than a puncture on my bikes
> during a ride but have stopped to fix problems with other bikes
> (broken chains, in particular).

That's true, and it's been a few years since I've packed along my mini
headset wrenches on a ride.

Part of the impetus is ritual for me. If I bring the chain tool, the chain
won't break...

Part of it is to not burden the other folks in any group with my repair
issues.  A related part is to be able to assist those who are stuck.  I was
the only person on a recent fixed-gear ride to have a chain tool.  Another
time, I helped to zip-tie a broken suspension fork together well enough for
another rider to change a 13 or so mile hike back into a ride.

Part of it is the nature of the rides in these parts - you tend to ride away
from civilization reasonably quickly, and with the topography, phones don't
always get reception. At night, the ice weasels come out...

I'd rather limp home back call for a ride.  The most important thing a
bicycle can do is get you home.

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights

[PATRICK MOORE]

Does anyone have any photos to share about mounting an Edeluxe? Have one in
the mail. I am thinking about a front caliper pivot bolt mount.

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[RBW] Re: RBW Owners Google Map

[xoney]

Too much fun!  Just succeeded in adding my information.


On Jan 24, 12:30 pm, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
 wrote:
> After a recent post in this group regarding the whereabouts of other
> Riv owners and available resources, I decided to create an interactive
> Google Map of Rivendell resources in which everyone can contribute (it
> just took a rainy Sunday to actually get it done.)
>
> http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/interactive-google-maps/rivendell-...
> (And if this proves to be a worthwhile resource, maybe it could be
> added to the RBW Owners Bunch resource page.)
>
> The basic idea is that Riv owners, dealers, and aficionados can place
> themselves on the map.  Hopefully it will serve as a good resource to
> connect us together in both the physical and virtual worlds.  Feel
> free to put as much as or little information as you deem appropriate
> into the Placemarker Description.
>
> At this point, the map is somewhat in "beta testing", so if you have
> any problems with the map or instructions, please let me know.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights

[Eric Norris]

I don't have a photo handy, but I wasn't able to find a good way to mount my 
Edeluxe on the fork crown (it interfered with the shifter cables from my bike's 
Ergo levers).  I put it on the bars, and it works great there.  It's also out 
of the way of a handlebar bag for those times when I use one.

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> the mail. I am thinking about a front caliper pivot bolt mount.
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[RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights

[JoelMatthews]

Cannot comment on front caliper pivot mount.  If you have a Pass Stow
or similar rack, this mount worked great for me:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/retrotec-inglis-cycles/2922965648/in/set-72157603802242311/

A truck destroyed much of the rest bike last summer.  The eDeluxe is
just fine, about to start working again as the replacement bike is
being assembled this week.

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> the mail. I am thinking about a front caliper pivot bolt mount.

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Re: [RBW] RBW and Smile Train

[Horace]

Good grief -- those guys continue to amaze me. Kudos to them. Maybe I'll buy
a new bike this year.


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Mike  wrote:

> I imagine that a fair amount of you are like me and check the
> Rivendell website daily, but for those of you who don't there is a new
> post about Smile Train donations. This is really cool. Just one more
> reason why Rivendell is the best bicycle company in the world.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/188
>
> --mike
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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[RoadieRyan]

Tim "astonsihed"


In the interest of full disclosure my go fast (at least for me) bike
has a micro topeak QR bag with levers, small  multi tool and CO2 pump
in bag and the spare tube slung underneath through the loops (think
they are there for a mini pump).  I ususally ride this bike on group
rides or if I am feeling strong and want to go out and crank it-
hasn't happened much lately.

On the Steel rivish "all rounder"  I am not so much concerned about
weight but its not like I have a bike stand or an anvil in there or
anything;-)


On Jan 27, 9:18 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 1/27/10 7:29 AM, Tim McNamara at tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
>
> > On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Brad Gantt wrote:
>
> >> I'm really enjoying reading this thread. I have gotten some great
> >> ideas for things to add to my kit.
>
> > I'm astonished by how much stuff people carry on bike rides, even
> > short ones.  Back in my racing/minimalist days I'd go out for a 100
> > mile ride with a tube, tire levers, Ritchey CPR tool, spoke wrench in
> > a tiny seat pouch and a $10 bill.  My friend Doug has done brevets-
> > without the tool and spoke wrench- and nothing added.
>
> > Bikes are pretty reliable with a basic maintenance schedule.  I
> > almost never have to fix anything other than a puncture on my bikes
> > during a ride but have stopped to fix problems with other bikes
> > (broken chains, in particular).
>
> That's true, and it's been a few years since I've packed along my mini
> headset wrenches on a ride.
>
> Part of the impetus is ritual for me. If I bring the chain tool, the chain
> won't break...
>
> Part of it is to not burden the other folks in any group with my repair
> issues.  A related part is to be able to assist those who are stuck.  I was
> the only person on a recent fixed-gear ride to have a chain tool.  Another
> time, I helped to zip-tie a broken suspension fork together well enough for
> another rider to change a 13 or so mile hike back into a ride.
>
> Part of it is the nature of the rides in these parts - you tend to ride away
> from civilization reasonably quickly, and with the topography, phones don't
> always get reception. At night, the ice weasels come out...
>
> I'd rather limp home back call for a ride.  The most important thing a
> bicycle can do is get you home.
>
> - Jim
>
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[RBW] Re: RBW and Smile Train

[Matt Critchlow]

Really impressive. I'm hoping my first Riv purchase(been saving for a
while) can happen during this timeframe. If not I'll just be sending a
donation anyway. Regardless, as Mike said I think it's another example
of why Rivendell is a great company.

Cheers,

Matt

On Jan 27, 7:01 am, Mike  wrote:
> I imagine that a fair amount of you are like me and check the
> Rivendell website daily, but for those of you who don't there is a new
> post about Smile Train donations. This is really cool. Just one more
> reason why Rivendell is the best bicycle company in the world.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/188
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Jim Cloud]

I ride almost exclusively by myself on rides around the Tucson area.
These include some rides in areas that are, by comparison to some in
more metropolitan locations, quite remote.  For example, one ride I've
enjoyed is a backroads tour in Southeastern Arizona in mixed cattle
country from Sonoita that ends up at the West entrance to Fort
Huachuca.  This is a rolling hills ride where the closest bike shop is
probably at least 30 miles distant.  The ride generally does not
include even seeing another bike rider.  (Here's a Google Maps link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl)

Being without a chain tool, or the ability to replace a broken spoke
in an area like this is not something I'm willing to try.  When I
consider the weight of the tools/spares I'm carrying, the confidence
that I can be relatively certain of my ability to handle any
reasonable maintenance/repair in situ is more than worth the weight.

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

On Jan 27, 8:29 am, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Brad Gantt wrote:
>
> > I'm really enjoying reading this thread. I have gotten some great
> > ideas for things to add to my kit.
>
> I'm astonished by how much stuff people carry on bike rides, even  
> short ones.  Back in my racing/minimalist days I'd go out for a 100  
> mile ride with a tube, tire levers, Ritchey CPR tool, spoke wrench in  
> a tiny seat pouch and a $10 bill.  My friend Doug has done brevets-  
> without the tool and spoke wrench- and nothing added.
>
> Bikes are pretty reliable with a basic maintenance schedule.  I  
> almost never have to fix anything other than a puncture on my bikes  
> during a ride but have stopped to fix problems with other bikes  
> (broken chains, in particular).

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Jim Cloud]

I guess the map link doesn't work, oh well just Google Sonoita, AZ

Jim

On Jan 27, 11:27 am, Jim Cloud  wrote:
> I ride almost exclusively by myself on rides around the Tucson area.
> These include some rides in areas that are, by comparison to some in
> more metropolitan locations, quite remote.  For example, one ride I've
> enjoyed is a backroads tour in Southeastern Arizona in mixed cattle
> country from Sonoita that ends up at the West entrance to Fort
> Huachuca.  This is a rolling hills ride where the closest bike shop is
> probably at least 30 miles distant.  The ride generally does not
> include even seeing another bike rider.  (Here's a Google Maps 
> link:http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl)
>
> Being without a chain tool, or the ability to replace a broken spoke
> in an area like this is not something I'm willing to try.  When I
> consider the weight of the tools/spares I'm carrying, the confidence
> that I can be relatively certain of my ability to handle any
> reasonable maintenance/repair in situ is more than worth the weight.
>
> Jim Cloud
> Tucson, AZ
>
> On Jan 27, 8:29 am, Tim McNamara  wrote:
>
> > On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Brad Gantt wrote:
>
> > > I'm really enjoying reading this thread. I have gotten some great
> > > ideas for things to add to my kit.
>
> > I'm astonished by how much stuff people carry on bike rides, even  
> > short ones.  Back in my racing/minimalist days I'd go out for a 100  
> > mile ride with a tube, tire levers, Ritchey CPR tool, spoke wrench in  
> > a tiny seat pouch and a $10 bill.  My friend Doug has done brevets-  
> > without the tool and spoke wrench- and nothing added.
>
> > Bikes are pretty reliable with a basic maintenance schedule.  I  
> > almost never have to fix anything other than a puncture on my bikes  
> > during a ride but have stopped to fix problems with other bikes  
> > (broken chains, in particular).
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights

[CycloFiend]

on 1/27/10 9:24 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote:


Does anyone have any photos to share about mounting an Edeluxe? Have one in
the mail. I am thinking about a front caliper pivot bolt mount.

I'd also post this over on Peter White's Bicycle Lifestyles list - he's got
significant experience with lighting systems.

- Jim

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[RBW] Berthouds and Hetres Update

[Esteban]

Just an update here -- I ended up adding 50mm Berthouds to my 650B
Protovelo (custom) in order to better accommodate Grand Bois Hetre
tires (42mm, fo' real).  I tried to document the clearance with these
mudguards:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622888947795/

On the Herse site, they remark, "For many bikes using the Grand Bois
650b x 42 Hetre tire, the 650b x 50mm Berthoud fender is the best
fender option available.  The reason is more luck than intent we
believe.  The Berthoud fender in this size has a relatively flat
profile - so it doesn't wrap as far down alongside the fender as some
of the traditional French fenders that are not easily obtainable.  So
the result is that the fender needs less clearance."

I found that there was a bit more room with the Berthouds, but they
are more stretchy than the Honjos. When I first mounted the rear
fender, I drilled the hole for the seatstay bridge a bit off, and it
stretched out the fender.  When that happened, it became slightly more
narrow.

I hope this info helps Riv owners of 650B considering moving to
Hetres.  The ride is really incredible, but it has been a pain to get
it passable in terms of clearance.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

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[RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights

[MichaelH]

I mount a pair of dinotte led lights to the front of a marks mini
Rack.  This works pretty well.  It's lower and more forward than the
bars and is in front of the bag. It's a simple rig.  I took an old HB,
in my case an odd width cinelli, and cut out the middle section.  I
stuck cork in the end and bolted it to the front of the rack.  The
batteries sit conveniently in the front (Acorn) bag.

Michael

On Jan 26, 9:23 pm, "Bill M."  wrote:
> I've had my pair of home-brewed LED lights on the low-rider bosses on
> my Miyata, but thought that that was too low.  It over-emphasized the
> road contour and made insignificant undulations look like potholes.
> The same lights are currently under are currently mounted to the
> supports under a Nashbar front rack at around top-of-wheel height on
> my 650b commuter, and I like that position better.  Just low enough to
> see some shadows on the road, but not so low as to create them where
> they shouldn't be.  Also, having the lights up and further forward
> eliminated the shadows cast by the rim and tire, which is nice.
>
> Another thought - if the lights are too low, they will have to be
> aimed up higher, and so will have more tendency to shine into the eyes
> of oncoming drivers rather than onto the road surface.  Having them
> higher lets me tilt them down a bit more to put the light where I want
> it.
>
> Axle height would be too low for me.  The fender front stay / light
> hoop on many Ebisus would be perfect.  Your lights may vary!
>
> Bill
>
> On Jan 26, 10:55 am, Eric Norris  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I just converted the headlight on my QB to a skewer mount that puts it 
> > really low.  Does anybody else on this list use headlights mounted that 
> > low?  Any tips about adjusting them?  I know that the lower mount is 
> > supposed to help the light cast shadows so it's easier to see debris, 
> > holes, etc., but my initial impression (about 1/4 of a mile of testing last 
> > night) is that the adjustment of the light is very touchy due to the 
> > shallow angle.
>
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> > --Eric
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RE: [RBW] Berthouds and Hetres Update

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

What about the VBQ-stocked 58mm Honjos (hammered or fluted)? 

http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/Handlebars.html 

They should fit great. 

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esteban
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:48 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Berthouds and Hetres Update

Just an update here -- I ended up adding 50mm Berthouds to my 650B Protovelo 
(custom) in order to better accommodate Grand Bois Hetre tires (42mm, fo' 
real).  I tried to document the clearance with these
mudguards:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622888947795/

On the Herse site, they remark, "For many bikes using the Grand Bois 650b x 42 
Hetre tire, the 650b x 50mm Berthoud fender is the best fender option 
available.  The reason is more luck than intent we believe.  The Berthoud 
fender in this size has a relatively flat profile - so it doesn't wrap as far 
down alongside the fender as some of the traditional French fenders that are 
not easily obtainable.  So the result is that the fender needs less clearance."

I found that there was a bit more room with the Berthouds, but they are more 
stretchy than the Honjos. When I first mounted the rear fender, I drilled the 
hole for the seatstay bridge a bit off, and it stretched out the fender.  When 
that happened, it became slightly more narrow.

I hope this info helps Riv owners of 650B considering moving to Hetres.  The 
ride is really incredible, but it has been a pain to get it passable in terms 
of clearance.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[rperks]

In the Hobo bags (Carradice and acorn):
Tube
2 soma tire levers
Topeak alien, heavy and yes you can almost put the whole bike together
with it
regular 5 and 6 mm alen wrenches
3 or 4 zip ties
Fiber fix spoke
Sram Power link
small pen
bandana
Panasonic GF1 digital camera
snack bar
band aids
patch kit
wallet
iphone
keys w/small flashlight Fenix L0D
pocket knife

In the rear: Acorn Medium or Carradice Nelson LF
Ulock
topeak road morph/lenzyne mini
extra straps and bungies
depending on ride and weather:
clothes, food, water first aid kit, extra batteries etc

The uniqe item on my list is the pen, like a pocket knife I always
have one with me, seem to use it every day
Going to add a glove, plastic bag, and tire boot

When you write it all down it is no wonder the bag is so darn heavy.
And like said above, if I have itr with me I seem to be protected by
Murphy's laws.  The times I pair it all down and leave stuff seem to
be the one or two times a decade I am walking home for miles.

Rob

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[RBW] WAS: Berthouds/Hetre NOW: Honjo/Hetre

[Jon Grant]

"Allingham II, Thomas J" asked:

What about the VBQ-stocked 58mm Honjos (hammered or fluted)?

http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/Handlebars.html

They should fit great.

---

I have Hetres and BQ¹s Honjo 58s on my Blériot. They work well and look
good, but can¹t imagine how smaller fenders would fit ‹ though part of that
limitation may be that the frame wasn¹t designed with such fat tires in
mind.

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[RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights

[jim g]

My headlamp's mounted at the front edge of my front rack -- works
great and no shadows:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimg/3618276627/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimg/3618271487/

-Jim G

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[RBW] Simpleone prototype at RBW

[Jim M.]

I stopped by RBW for some parts today and got to see a beautiful
Simpleone prototype. It's a 64cm in a very attractive burgundy.  The
decals are very tasteful, and they even include Rivendell in small
type. Sorry, I had no camera with me. Without the decals, you would
think it's a Quickbeam in a new color. I didn't get a chance to ride
it, but I may go back tomorrow with camera and time to try it.

If you missed out on the QB, you won't go wrong getting a Simpleone
(pronounced sim-play-own-ay). ;-)

One of the parts I picked up was the SRAM road lever:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sram-s500-road-brake-levers/15-164
I've used the Cane Creeks and Shimanos, and the SRAM is in between
those in size, and has a better ergonomic shape, at least to my hands.
It also has adjustable reach.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Earl Grey]

I don't use the adjustable wrench very often at all, EXCEPT as an
extension handle for the included Allen keys. If you need the long end
to reach a bolt (road brake lever, for example) you can't really get
enough leverage for proper torque. Slip the hex hole on the adjustable
wrench over the short end of the Allen, and you got yourself a very
nice handle.

Gernot

On Jan 27, 1:08 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Brad Gantt  wrote:
> > "Cooltool multitool (no longer available, but a great tool esp. for
> > touring)"
>
> > Thanks for reminding me about these. I completely forgotten I had one.
> > With a larger adjustable wrench if I'm not mistaken. I had banished it
> > from my seatbag a long time ago when I was a weight-weenie.
>
> > Oyez! I am in the market for a Cool Tool; anyone?
>
> I figure they are good combinations if you have a bolt on rear wheel.
>
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[RBW] Re: Simpleone prototype at RBW

[stevep33]

This Simpleone appeared recently in the RBW flickr pool:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46241...@n08/4298852923/in/pool-rivendell

The burgundy color is terrific.

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[stevep33]

I also like the Park Tools MT-1 multitool.  Light 53g, simple, cheap
$9, no moving parts, 8 tools in 1.

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[RBW] Re: Simpleone prototype at RBW

[newenglandbike]

wow!

On Jan 27, 4:12 pm, stevep33  wrote:
> This Simpleone appeared recently in the RBW flickr 
> pool:http://www.flickr.com/photos/46241...@n08/4298852923/in/pool-rivendell
>
> The burgundy color is terrific.

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[RBW] Re: WAS: Berthouds/Hetre NOW: Honjo/Hetre

[Esteban]

Interesting -- The 50mm fenders just make the fork by a few mm on each
side, so I don't think the 58mm would fit inside the fork.

I'm going to take it on a long ride this weekend and really push it
climbing... hopefully that will evoke any tire rub that be in there.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Jan 27, 11:39 am, Jon Grant  wrote:
> "Allingham II, Thomas J" asked:
>
> What about the VBQ-stocked 58mm Honjos (hammered or fluted)?
>
> http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/Handlebars.html
>
> They should fit great.
>
> ---
>
> I have Hetres and BQ¹s Honjo 58s on my Blériot. They work well and look
> good, but can¹t imagine how smaller fenders would fit ‹ though part of that
> limitation may be that the frame wasn¹t designed with such fat tires in
> mind.
>
> --
> Jon ³Papa² Grant, in overcast
> Austin, Texas

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RE: [RBW] Re: WAS: Berthouds/Hetre NOW: Honjo/Hetre

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I was going to put them on my Bombadil with Hetres when it comes back from 
repaint -- no fork clearance issues there, I wouldn't think.  Good luck with 
the test this weekend. Your bike is just stunning!

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:37 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: WAS: Berthouds/Hetre NOW: Honjo/Hetre

Interesting -- The 50mm fenders just make the fork by a few mm on each side, so 
I don't think the 58mm would fit inside the fork.

I'm going to take it on a long ride this weekend and really push it climbing... 
hopefully that will evoke any tire rub that be in there.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Jan 27, 11:39 am, Jon Grant  wrote:
> "Allingham II, Thomas J" asked:
>
> What about the VBQ-stocked 58mm Honjos (hammered or fluted)?
>
> http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/Handlebars.html
>
> They should fit great.
>
> ---
>
> I have Hetres and BQ¹s Honjo 58s on my Blériot. They work well and 
> look good, but can¹t imagine how smaller fenders would fit < though 
> part of that limitation may be that the frame wasn¹t designed with 
> such fat tires in mind.
>
> --
> Jon ³Papa² Grant, in overcast
> Austin, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Simpleone prototype at RBW

[Justin August]

I'm very interested in how you like those SRAM levers. I have the
Shimanos on my noodlebar'd bike and they are okay but are a bit
narrow. My favorite brake levers (Feel wise) were (gah!) the Ultegra
STIs I had for a while and the SRAMs look vaguely like those. Please
report back!

-Justin

On Jan 27, 3:39 pm, "Jim M."  wrote:
> I stopped by RBW for some parts today and got to see a beautiful
> Simpleone prototype. It's a 64cm in a very attractive burgundy.  The
> decals are very tasteful, and they even include Rivendell in small
> type. Sorry, I had no camera with me. Without the decals, you would
> think it's a Quickbeam in a new color. I didn't get a chance to ride
> it, but I may go back tomorrow with camera and time to try it.
>
> If you missed out on the QB, you won't go wrong getting a Simpleone
> (pronounced sim-play-own-ay). ;-)
>
> One of the parts I picked up was the SRAM road 
> lever:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sram-s500-road-brake-levers/15-164
> I've used the Cane Creeks and Shimanos, and the SRAM is in between
> those in size, and has a better ergonomic shape, at least to my hands.
> It also has adjustable reach.
>
> jim m
> wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Simpleone prototype at RBW

[newenglandbike]

wow, that does look good-the paint almost looks translucent(?)
Maybe it's just the lustre/shininess.

On Jan 27, 4:12 pm, stevep33  wrote:
> This Simpleone appeared recently in the RBW flickr 
> pool:http://www.flickr.com/photos/46241...@n08/4298852923/in/pool-rivendell
>
> The burgundy color is terrific.

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[RBW] FS: Carradice Camper Saddle Bag

[Don Genovese]

Barely used, like-new condition: Carradice Camper Saddle Bag, black with
white leather straps - $65.00 + $10.00 shipping.

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[RBW] Re: Simpleone prototype at RBW

[Jeremy Till]

I've been wondering about those sram levers, they look like they'd be
the nuts for the Nitto RM013's i've just installed with those flared
out levers.  Plus, you can accessorize with hudz!

http://www.grabthehudz.com/

let us know what you think.

Simpleone looks awesome.

On Jan 27, 12:39 pm, "Jim M."  wrote:
> I stopped by RBW for some parts today and got to see a beautiful
> Simpleone prototype. It's a 64cm in a very attractive burgundy.  The
> decals are very tasteful, and they even include Rivendell in small
> type. Sorry, I had no camera with me. Without the decals, you would
> think it's a Quickbeam in a new color. I didn't get a chance to ride
> it, but I may go back tomorrow with camera and time to try it.
>
> If you missed out on the QB, you won't go wrong getting a Simpleone
> (pronounced sim-play-own-ay). ;-)
>
> One of the parts I picked up was the SRAM road 
> lever:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sram-s500-road-brake-levers/15-164
> I've used the Cane Creeks and Shimanos, and the SRAM is in between
> those in size, and has a better ergonomic shape, at least to my hands.
> It also has adjustable reach.
>
> jim m
> wc ca

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Re: [RBW] FS: Carradice Camper Saddle Bag

[PATRICK MOORE]

Damn good price; I wish I still used saddlebags!

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Don Genovese  wrote:

> Barely used, like-new condition: Carradice Camper Saddle Bag, black with
> white leather straps - $65.00 + $10.00 shipping.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I tend to be in the "minimalist but add a few things" category, and I have
just taken to carrying my kit for the commuter Riv in a bar bag (Ryan, the
holder don't work and I'll return it). So I may not even qualify for this
discussion of saddlebags. But anyway.

The motive that prompted me to add a little bit to my formerly minimalist
kits (minimalist = tube + lever plus single 5/6 allen) was the fear of being
late for work if some mishap should haply happen en route to the treadmill.
So I added a second tube plus a multi tool with more allen heads plus a
brake cable plus a chain tool plus a chain link plus a small patch kit so I
could fix flatted tubes on office time. (Boss: "Patrick! Come here! I need
you!" Patrick: " Hang on, dammit, I'm fixing my bike! Jeez!" -- and I tacked
a piece of cardboard to the wall of my office so the wall wouldn't scuff my
bar tape or saddle.) In winter I also add a flashlight for night time
repairs and a few extra AAAs for the Superflash and flashlight. Now that I
work at home I haven't gotten around to re-considering my kit.

Taking a tangent: for you -- or us -- weight weenies, the Lezyne HP model
minipump is the best mini I've used; better than even the Quicker. That hose
makes all the difference. I carry one on my gofast; the other bikes have
Topeak road frame pumps -- better than Zefal, IMO.

Here's a 'nother tangent: do y'all have a kit for each bike, or do you swap
the bag between bikes? Me, I have one for each.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Jim Cloud  wrote:

> I ride almost exclusively by myself on rides around the Tucson area.
> These include some rides in areas that are, by comparison to some in
> more metropolitan locations, quite remote.  For example, one ride I've
> enjoyed is a backroads tour in Southeastern Arizona in mixed cattle
> country from Sonoita that ends up at the West entrance to Fort
> Huachuca.  This is a rolling hills ride where the closest bike shop is
> probably at least 30 miles distant.  The ride generally does not
> include even seeing another bike rider.  (Here's a Google Maps link:
> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl)
>
> Being without a chain tool, or the ability to replace a broken spoke
> in an area like this is not something I'm willing to try.  When I
> consider the weight of the tools/spares I'm carrying, the confidence
> that I can be relatively certain of my ability to handle any
> reasonable maintenance/repair in situ is more than worth the weight.
>
> Jim Cloud
> Tucson, AZ
>
> On Jan 27, 8:29 am, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> > On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Brad Gantt wrote:
> >
> > > I'm really enjoying reading this thread. I have gotten some great
> > > ideas for things to add to my kit.
> >
> > I'm astonished by how much stuff people carry on bike rides, even
> > short ones.  Back in my racing/minimalist days I'd go out for a 100
> > mile ride with a tube, tire levers, Ritchey CPR tool, spoke wrench in
> > a tiny seat pouch and a $10 bill.  My friend Doug has done brevets-
> > without the tool and spoke wrench- and nothing added.
> >
> > Bikes are pretty reliable with a basic maintenance schedule.  I
> > almost never have to fix anything other than a puncture on my bikes
> > during a ride but have stopped to fix problems with other bikes
> > (broken chains, in particular).
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Is that the "t-bone" one stamped piece of steel one? Me too, very good.
Possibly MT-1 + sawed off 15 mm box wrench is better than Cool Tool, but


Once again: does anyone want to sell a Cool Tool?

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:28 PM, stevep33  wrote:

> I also like the Park Tools MT-1 multitool.  Light 53g, simple, cheap
> $9, no moving parts, 8 tools in 1.
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[RBW] Baggins "Adam" Bag FS

[Eric Norris]

Gently used, in great condition (except for one small, repaired tear on the 
bottom where you can't see it anyway).  It's been hanging around in the closet 
way too long, and finally demanded that I find it a new home where it can get 
some fresh air.

$80 shipped in the US.

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[RBW] Re: Low-Mounted Headlights

[EricP]

My E3 on the Hillborne is on the side of the Nitto Mini Rack.  Good
beam pattern at that hight.  Not sure it's the ideal mounting, though.

An advantage of handlebar mounted lights - in winter (at least in
places with snow/slush) there is less chance of a build up on the
lens.  That being said, the current winter bike has a Cyo mounted on
the fork crown.  Does mean no front rack.  But the trade-off seemed
worth it.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Jan 27, 2:03�pm, jim g  wrote:
> My headlamp's mounted at the front edge of my front rack -- works
> great and no shadows:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimg/3618276627/http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimg/3618271487/
>
> -Jim G

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Re: [RBW] Berthouds and Hetres Update

[James Valiensi]

Hullo,
The Hetre's don't quite measure up to 42mm. Check out my photo's.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/sets/72157623173479643/

James Valiensi, PE
Northridge, CA
H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796

On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Esteban wrote:

> Just an update here -- I ended up adding 50mm Berthouds to my 650B
> Protovelo (custom) in order to better accommodate Grand Bois Hetre
> tires (42mm, fo' real).  I tried to document the clearance with these
> mudguards:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622888947795/
> 
> On the Herse site, they remark, "For many bikes using the Grand Bois
> 650b x 42 Hetre tire, the 650b x 50mm Berthoud fender is the best
> fender option available.  The reason is more luck than intent we
> believe.  The Berthoud fender in this size has a relatively flat
> profile - so it doesn't wrap as far down alongside the fender as some
> of the traditional French fenders that are not easily obtainable.  So
> the result is that the fender needs less clearance."
> 
> I found that there was a bit more room with the Berthouds, but they
> are more stretchy than the Honjos. When I first mounted the rear
> fender, I drilled the hole for the seatstay bridge a bit off, and it
> stretched out the fender.  When that happened, it became slightly more
> narrow.
> 
> I hope this info helps Riv owners of 650B considering moving to
> Hetres.  The ride is really incredible, but it has been a pain to get
> it passable in terms of clearance.
> 
> Esteban
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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[EricP]

Patrick,

Different for each bike.  Hopefully to spend a bit less time deciding
"which bike to ride?" now switch everything to that bike.  Plus, I
don't mind being over-prepared.  All the repair stuff is only a couple
of pounds.  I still have to lose a lot more than that around the
middle.

Strangely, "way back in the day" I raced.  Mountain bike.  At that
time, there was no support.  Something broke on the ride, we had to
fix it or drop out.  Probably where the "everything but the kitchen
sink" mentality started.

Did snap a chain last week.  But was close enough to Hiawatha Cyclery
that just walked there instead of fixing it.  Ended up replacing the
chain, anyway.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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> Here's a 'nother tangent: do y'all have a kit for each bike, or do you swap
> the bag between bikes? Me, I have one for each.
>
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[RBW] Re: Berthouds and Hetres Update

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

No Hetre experience, but in general, it takes awhile for new tires to
stretch to their real size.

On Jan 27, 7:20 pm, James Valiensi  wrote:
> Hullo,
> The Hetre's don't quite measure up to 42mm. Check out my photo's.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/sets/72157623173479...
>
> James Valiensi, PE
> Northridge, CA
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>
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Esteban wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just an update here -- I ended up adding 50mm Berthouds to my 650B
> > Protovelo (custom) in order to better accommodate Grand Bois Hetre
> > tires (42mm, fo' real).  I tried to document the clearance with these
> > mudguards:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622888947795/
>
> > On the Herse site, they remark, "For many bikes using the Grand Bois
> > 650b x 42 Hetre tire, the 650b x 50mm Berthoud fender is the best
> > fender option available.  The reason is more luck than intent we
> > believe.  The Berthoud fender in this size has a relatively flat
> > profile - so it doesn't wrap as far down alongside the fender as some
> > of the traditional French fenders that are not easily obtainable.  So
> > the result is that the fender needs less clearance."
>
> > I found that there was a bit more room with the Berthouds, but they
> > are more stretchy than the Honjos. When I first mounted the rear
> > fender, I drilled the hole for the seatstay bridge a bit off, and it
> > stretched out the fender.  When that happened, it became slightly more
> > narrow.
>
> > I hope this info helps Riv owners of 650B considering moving to
> > Hetres.  The ride is really incredible, but it has been a pain to get
> > it passable in terms of clearance.
>
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> > San Diego, Calif.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Bill Connell]

> On Jan 27, 4:46�pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> Here's a 'nother tangent: do y'all have a kit for each bike, or do you swap
>> the bag between bikes? Me, I have one for each.

I'm finally heading toward having one good bag per bike, now that i'm
making my own bags. Each bike has a core kit of 1-2 spare tubes,
steelcore levers, glueless patch kit (got tired of finding dried-up
cement), cell phone, and whatever pump fits the frame or bag.

Commuting i'll add a lunch (usually in a tupperware container) and
usually a musette or other bag in case i need to grab something from
the store that doesn't fit in the bag.

On longer rides i'll have up to 2 tubes plus mini chain tool and 3
spare links (mainly for the singlespeeds), spoke wrench and a shop
rag. Non-bike stuff in there includes camera, maps (if needed), spare
t-shirt or light jacket, gloves and snacks.

If anything, i've learned that i tend to overpack, so i've been
whittling down my load, especially for long day tours. The first
century i did i probably brought 4 lbs of food with me, and still had
about 3 by the end of the ride.

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[reynoldslugs]

p.s. An iPhone is the tool I use the most, actually keep it in the V-
Bar bag.  Thus I sneak out in the middle of the day, do a 2 hour ride,
stop at the top of the hill and return emails to clients across
country, with clients serviced and none the wiser.

I know this wasn't Ed Zachary what you were talking about, but it's
still my most-used cycling tool.  When there is no traffic around,
just reach into the bar bag and do a quick check for email.  I am not,
however, one of those dufuses (dufi?) that talk on the phone while
riding.  I may be a dufus, but not of that particular species.

RL

On Jan 26, 7:12 pm, RoadieRyan  wrote:
> Baggins Lil Loafer up front
>
> Topeak mini multi with chain tool
> sram chain connector
> soma tire levers
> spare tube in old sock
> (Leyzene mini pump is attached to the bottle cage)
> one of the towels that is folded into a small disc (half dollar sized)
> for post tire change clean up- ain't it always the rear tire?
> phone
> wallet
> mini bulldog u lock with keys
> rain cover for said loafer
> If I am ridiing for longer than an hour some snacks
> zip ties
> bungee
> plastic bag to cover brooks in case I have to park it in the elements
>
> Thanks to all for mentioning having some cash stashed in there I need
> to do that
>
> On Jan 26, 5:50 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 17:57 -0700, rswat...@me.com wrote:
> > > That's where we differ, I guess.
> > > I'm sure I've fixed well over 1000 flats in the last 25 years or so,  
> > > but could probably count on one hand the number of times I've replaced  
> > > a tube on the road. I always prefer to patch the hole on the spot and  
> > > be done with it rather than use my spare tube and have to deal with  
> > > patching later.
>
> > Sometimes finding the hole isn't as easy as one would think.  I couldn't
> > find the puncture on my last flat out on the road: far too noisy.
> > Sometimes I've had to resort to a sink full of water.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Bill: You had three pounds of extra food??? I was probably starving!!!

My natural tendency is to carry a large saddlebag or pannier and add a
tube to it every ride. A couple times a year, I'll clean out the bag
and realize I'm carrying 25 tubes more than I need and the small
saddlebag weighs 50 lbs. But, I'm trying to cultivate my latent
minimalist. I have a couple trips planned in the next few months
during which I plan to travel light. Minnehaha medium saddlebag for 3-
day outings, etc.

A few years ago there was an article in the Reader about gearing
written by a friend/customer named Dave Siskind. Dave is closing in on
500,000 miles lifetime and has ridden across the continent many times.
Some photos from his tours show his heavily loaded riding buddies and
Dave looking like he has just enough for a weekend outing.

An alternate strategy is to carry little or nothing and rely on the
kindness of strangers and ride partners.

On Jan 27, 7:56 pm, Bill Connell  wrote:
> > On Jan 27, 4:46 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> >> Here's a 'nother tangent: do y'all have a kit for each bike, or do you swap
> >> the bag between bikes? Me, I have one for each.
>
> I'm finally heading toward having one good bag per bike, now that i'm
> making my own bags. Each bike has a core kit of 1-2 spare tubes,
> steelcore levers, glueless patch kit (got tired of finding dried-up
> cement), cell phone, and whatever pump fits the frame or bag.
>
> Commuting i'll add a lunch (usually in a tupperware container) and
> usually a musette or other bag in case i need to grab something from
> the store that doesn't fit in the bag.
>
> On longer rides i'll have up to 2 tubes plus mini chain tool and 3
> spare links (mainly for the singlespeeds), spoke wrench and a shop
> rag. Non-bike stuff in there includes camera, maps (if needed), spare
> t-shirt or light jacket, gloves and snacks.
>
> If anything, i've learned that i tend to overpack, so i've been
> whittling down my load, especially for long day tours. The first
> century i did i probably brought 4 lbs of food with me, and still had
> about 3 by the end of the ride.
>
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[RBW] Adam Bag Sold

[Eric Norris]

It's going to a new home.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[cyclotourist]

That's on my list of things to get.  I think Jim Thill had one available for
easy & quick fixes.  Good go-to tool!

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, stevep33  wrote:

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> $9, no moving parts, 8 tools in 1.
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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[charlie]

I carry the following:
Showers pass touring jacket, multi tool, spare tube, patch kit, saddle
cover, winter gloves, tire irons, extra prescription eye glasses,
spare wool socks, elastic headlamp for roadside repairs on my bike or
riding at night to see where I am turning, maybe or maybe not a flask
with whiskey when its cold, my camera, when I get one.a small cook
stove and coffee making stuff, usually a spare zip tie, probably will
start to carry some first aid stuff along with T.P. and or course some
food, cash money, wallet, and a cell phone. This goes in a Carradice
Nelson Longflap saddlebag and if I run out of room I strap on my Hobo
bag.



On Jan 26, 1:11 pm, Brad Gantt  wrote:
> Rivendell riders, with their ample baggage, are able to carry a wide
> variety of things beyond a tiny multi-tool, patch kit, levers and
> tube. I am curious what others in the Bunch find indispensable,
> useful, fun, etc. It would probably be useful to describe the bag,
> type of riding, etc. I'll start it off but I'm pretty boring since
> until a couple of weeks ago I was limited to a tiny underseat bag.
>
> Bag: Brand V Seat Bag
>
> Type of Riding: Fair weather day trips up to 6 hours on mixed terrain.
>
> Contents:
> Inside Burrito Wrap- Quick Stick tire lever, 2 tubes, patch kit, tire
> boot (made from old road tire with bead cut off), chain tool, spoke
> wrench & assorted hex wrenches, $20 bill &$1 bill (also works as a
> tire boot in a pinch), small shop rag (wrapped around pointy tools)
>
> Outside Burrito Wrap- 4,5,6 Allen Y wrench (still doing small fit
> tweaks given the newness of my bike), Lezyne Pressure Drive Mini-Pump,
> Olympus Stylus Tough, iPhone, Food (bananas, homemade bars, etc.)

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[RBW] Re: FS New Phil Wood Wheels and Bottom Bracket , New Paul Brakes

[Justin August]

Bottom bracket purchased.

On Jan 27, 3:19 am, Andrew  wrote:
> Selling a few items for a project I abandoned when I scored a nice
> Allrounder. Shipping is not included in the prices.
>
> 1. Brand new, professionally built rear wheel with:
>
> -Phil wood 135mm 36 hole CSS633 touring cassette rear FSA hub in
> silver
> -DT 14/15/14 silver stainless steel butted spokes and nickel brass
> nipples
> -DYAD 36h Silver 700c Synergy Rims
> -Zefal Rim tape
>
> The wheel was built recently, it has never been used or put on a bike,
> brand new. I know Rivendell likes the synergys but the DYADs are the
> strongest touring rims. These are the most durable wheels you can get.
> Rivendell would sell these for around $520. I'll sell mine for $395.
>
> 2. Brand new, professionally built front wheel with:
>
> -Phil wood 36 hole CSF600 front touring FSA silver hub
> -DT 14/15/14 silver stainless steel butted spokes and nickel brass
> nipples
> -DYAD 36h Silver 700c Synergy Rims
> -Zefal Rim tape
>
> The wheel was also built recently, it has never been used or put on a
> bike, brand new. Rivendell would sell these for around $250. I'll sell
> mine for $195. Brand new, never installed. I will sell the set for
> $575.
>
> 3. Brand new never installed Phil Wood 108mm JIS Stainless Steel
> Bottom Bracket 68/73mm model BRS08S.  This is good for doubles on most
> Riv bikes, or for the Atlantis. $85 for the bottom bracket. $115 with
> new phil wood english threaded 68mm stainless steel cups.
>
> 4. Brand new still in the bag Paul neo retro silver cantilever brake-
> $75
>
> 5. Brand new still in the bag Paul Touring silver cantilever brake-$75

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[RBW] Re: Baggins "Adam" Bag FS

[manueljohnacosta]

Any pictures eric?



On Jan 27, 3:29 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Gently used, in great condition (except for one small, repaired tear on the 
> bottom where you can't see it anyway).  It's been hanging around in the 
> closet way too long, and finally demanded that I find it a new home where it 
> can get some fresh air.
>
> $80 shipped in the US.
>
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[RBW] Re: Baggins "Adam" Bag FS

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Surprised this didn't sell yet. Adam Cartwright died just a couple
days ago. You really should double your price!

On Jan 27, 5:29 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Gently used, in great condition (except for one small, repaired tear on the 
> bottom where you can't see it anyway).  It's been hanging around in the 
> closet way too long, and finally demanded that I find it a new home where it 
> can get some fresh air.
>
> $80 shipped in the US.
>
> --Eric
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Sources, anyone? The LBS I bought my two from no longer carries them, and
I'd like to get a couple more.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:28 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

> That's on my list of things to get.  I think Jim Thill had one available
> for easy & quick fixes.  Good go-to tool!
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, stevep33  wrote:
>
>> I also like the Park Tools MT-1 multitool.  Light 53g, simple, cheap
>> $9, no moving parts, 8 tools in 1.
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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I have them. Any LBS can order them.

On Jan 27, 10:28 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Sources, anyone? The LBS I bought my two from no longer carries them, and
> I'd like to get a couple more.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:28 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > That's on my list of things to get.  I think Jim Thill had one available
> > for easy & quick fixes.  Good go-to tool!
>
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, stevep33  wrote:
>
> >> I also like the Park Tools MT-1 multitool.  Light 53g, simple, cheap
> >> $9, no moving parts, 8 tools in 1.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[cyclotourist]

Was that you or Eric?  One of the Minnesota people had one that I borrowed.
Nice little tool!


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have them. Any LBS can order them.
>
> On Jan 27, 10:28 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> > Sources, anyone? The LBS I bought my two from no longer carries them, and
> > I'd like to get a couple more.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:28 PM, cyclotourist  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > That's on my list of things to get.  I think Jim Thill had one
> available
> > > for easy & quick fixes.  Good go-to tool!
> >
> > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, stevep33  wrote:
> >
> > >> I also like the Park Tools MT-1 multitool.  Light 53g, simple, cheap
> > >> $9, no moving parts, 8 tools in 1.
> >
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[RBW] Re: FS New Phil Wood Wheels and Bottom Bracket , New Paul Brakes

[Andrew]

Brakes and bottom brake sold, thanks! If anybody is still interested
in the wheelset let me know.

On Jan 27, 6:31 pm, Justin August  wrote:
> Bottom bracket purchased.
>
> On Jan 27, 3:19 am, Andrew  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Selling a few items for a project I abandoned when I scored a nice
> > Allrounder. Shipping is not included in the prices.
>
> > 1. Brand new, professionally built rear wheel with:
>
> > -Phil wood 135mm 36 hole CSS633 touring cassette rear FSA hub in
> > silver
> > -DT 14/15/14 silver stainless steel butted spokes and nickel brass
> > nipples
> > -DYAD 36h Silver 700c Synergy Rims
> > -Zefal Rim tape
>
> > The wheel was built recently, it has never been used or put on a bike,
> > brand new. I know Rivendell likes the synergys but the DYADs are the
> > strongest touring rims. These are the most durable wheels you can get.
> > Rivendell would sell these for around $520. I'll sell mine for $395.
>
> > 2. Brand new, professionally built front wheel with:
>
> > -Phil wood 36 hole CSF600 front touring FSA silver hub
> > -DT 14/15/14 silver stainless steel butted spokes and nickel brass
> > nipples
> > -DYAD 36h Silver 700c Synergy Rims
> > -Zefal Rim tape
>
> > The wheel was also built recently, it has never been used or put on a
> > bike, brand new. Rivendell would sell these for around $250. I'll sell
> > mine for $195. Brand new, never installed. I will sell the set for
> > $575.
>
> > 3. Brand new never installed Phil Wood 108mm JIS Stainless Steel
> > Bottom Bracket 68/73mm model BRS08S.  This is good for doubles on most
> > Riv bikes, or for the Atlantis. $85 for the bottom bracket. $115 with
> > new phil wood english threaded 68mm stainless steel cups.
>
> > 4. Brand new still in the bag Paul neo retro silver cantilever brake-
> > $75
>
> > 5. Brand new still in the bag Paul Touring silver cantilever brake-$75

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[RBW] s420

[dpco]

can you guys give me the definition of "s420" ?
don c.

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Re: [RBW] s420

[nathan spindel]

You're probably thinking of S24O, short for Sub-24 Hour Overnight.
Here's a nice primer:
.

-nathan

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Berthoud or Nigel Smythe canvas "banana" seat bag

[Rene Sterental]

I'm selling an almost new Acorn medium saddle bag in tan. E-mail me at
orthie251 at gmail dot com if you're interested.

René

On 1/26/10, Earl Grey  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for either the old style Berthoud "banana" bag (the one
> that attaches with a toe strap, not the new "quick fix" version) in
> grey
>
> Or
>
> the Nigel Smythe Seat Pouch (in tan canvas).
>
> It's okay if it shows a fair amount of wear, as long as they are still
> functional. Might also be willing to consider similar bags from other
> makers, if you send photos.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gernot
>
>
>
> PS: I thought I posted this a couple of days ago, but I don't see it
> in the list. Apologies if it ends up being a double post. -GH
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[RBW] Re: s420

[dpco]

thanks.
don

On Jan 27, 9:35 pm, nathan spindel  wrote:
> You're probably thinking of S24O, short for Sub-24 Hour Overnight.
> Here's a nice primer:
> .
>
> -nathan
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Probably Eric, who probably bought it from me, after a good deal of
salesmanship on my part. It's a great little tool.

I can see how you confused me for Eric, or vice versa. We sort of look
alike: ravishingly handsome and always appropriately witty.

On Jan 27, 11:05 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Was that you or Eric?  One of the Minnesota people had one that I borrowed.
> Nice little tool!
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
>
>
>
>
>
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> > I have them. Any LBS can order them.
>
> > On Jan 27, 10:28 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> > > Sources, anyone? The LBS I bought my two from no longer carries them, and
> > > I'd like to get a couple more.
>
> > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:28 PM, cyclotourist  > >wrote:
>
> > > > That's on my list of things to get.  I think Jim Thill had one
> > available
> > > > for easy & quick fixes.  Good go-to tool!
>
> > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, stevep33  wrote:
>
> > > >> I also like the Park Tools MT-1 multitool.  Light 53g, simple, cheap
> > > >> $9, no moving parts, 8 tools in 1.
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[RBW] Re: s420

[rcnute]

An overnight bike trip with Rastafarians.

Ryan

On Jan 27, 9:34 pm, dpco  wrote:
> can you guys give me the definition of "s420" ?
> don c.

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Re: [RBW] Re: s420

[cyclotourist]

Brilliant!

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:58 PM, rcnute  wrote:

> An overnight bike trip with Rastafarians.
>
> Ryan
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Re: [RBW] Re: s420

[cyclotourist]

Oh... An overnight bike trip with Rastafarians... In Amsterdam!

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:06 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

> Brilliant!
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:58 PM, rcnute  wrote:
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>> An overnight bike trip with Rastafarians.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Jan 27, 9:34 pm, dpco  wrote:
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>> > don c.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in Your Saddlebag?

[cyclotourist]

It was a ride by the Pacific, that's all I can say, and I'm sticking to it.

But yeah, it was the guy with the little bike.


On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

> Probably Eric, who probably bought it from me, after a good deal of
> salesmanship on my part. It's a great little tool.
>
> I can see how you confused me for Eric, or vice versa. We sort of look
> alike: ravishingly handsome and always appropriately witty.
>
> On Jan 27, 11:05 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Was that you or Eric?  One of the Minnesota people had one that I
> borrowed.
> > Nice little tool!
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > thill@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have them. Any LBS can order them.
> >
> > > On Jan 27, 10:28 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> > > > Sources, anyone? The LBS I bought my two from no longer carries them,
> and
> > > > I'd like to get a couple more.
> >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:28 PM, cyclotourist <
> cyclotour...@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> >
> > > > > That's on my list of things to get.  I think Jim Thill had one
> > > available
> > > > > for easy & quick fixes.  Good go-to tool!
> >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, stevep33 
> wrote:
> >
> > > > >> I also like the Park Tools MT-1 multitool.  Light 53g, simple,
> cheap
> > > > >> $9, no moving parts, 8 tools in 1.
> >
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[RBW] Re: s420

[rcnute]

Genius.  I've been one-upped!  :)

On Jan 27, 10:07 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Oh... An overnight bike trip with Rastafarians... In Amsterdam!
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:06 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>
>
> > Brilliant!
>
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:58 PM, rcnute  wrote:
>
> >> An overnight bike trip with Rastafarians.
>
> >> Ryan
>
> >> On Jan 27, 9:34 pm, dpco  wrote:
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[RBW] FS: 58cm brand new Atlantis

[joe werth]

hadn't gotten a chance to post this with the hours in my days filled up with
who-knows-what, but I have an Atlantis to sell. And it's brand new. I bought
it at Rivendell in August more or less for a birthday present to myself, and
upon further research, have found this not to be the optimal frame for
me.(i'm looking for more of a lighter weighted tubing bike for
randonneuring.) I took it outta the box, did away with the box, and on a pad
in my bedroom it has sat. I've never attached any component to it, and
haven't even removed the metal plug from the seat tube. although I did peel
off the clear plastic cover over the front head badge.

If you're interested, I want to get what I paid for it which is right at
$2300 plus professional packing and shipping. Unless you live in the bay
area and we can arrange to meet.

if you have any questions or wanna see some photos, please respond offlist.

thanks
joe werth

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[RBW] Re: Berthouds and Hetres Update

[Matt Critchlow]

That looks really nice, great job! I'll be on the lookout for that
bike, probably not many like it around here in San Diego..

Matt

On Jan 27, 10:47 am, Esteban  wrote:
> Just an update here -- I ended up adding 50mm Berthouds to my 650B
> Protovelo (custom) in order to better accommodate Grand Bois Hetre
> tires (42mm, fo' real).  I tried to document the clearance with these
> mudguards:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622888947795/
>
> On the Herse site, they remark, "For many bikes using the Grand Bois
> 650b x 42 Hetre tire, the 650b x 50mm Berthoud fender is the best
> fender option available.  The reason is more luck than intent we
> believe.  The Berthoud fender in this size has a relatively flat
> profile - so it doesn't wrap as far down alongside the fender as some
> of the traditional French fenders that are not easily obtainable.  So
> the result is that the fender needs less clearance."
>
> I found that there was a bit more room with the Berthouds, but they
> are more stretchy than the Honjos. When I first mounted the rear
> fender, I drilled the hole for the seatstay bridge a bit off, and it
> stretched out the fender.  When that happened, it became slightly more
> narrow.
>
> I hope this info helps Riv owners of 650B considering moving to
> Hetres.  The ride is really incredible, but it has been a pain to get
> it passable in terms of clearance.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.

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Re: [RBW] Re: s420

[cyclotourist]

I was inspired!!! :-)

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:09 PM, rcnute  wrote:

> Genius.  I've been one-upped!  :)
>
> On Jan 27, 10:07 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Oh... An overnight bike trip with Rastafarians... In Amsterdam!
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:06 PM, cyclotourist  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Brilliant!
> >
> > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:58 PM, rcnute  wrote:
> >
> > >> An overnight bike trip with Rastafarians.
> >
> > >> Ryan
> >
> > >> On Jan 27, 9:34 pm, dpco  wrote:
> > >> > can you guys give me the definition of "s420" ?
> > >> > don c.
> >
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> > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is
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> > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill
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[RBW] Re: s420

[manueljohnacosta]

easier to explain with pictures.

My first S420- Briones park. pre-bleriot.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623299331702/

- Manny

On Jan 27, 9:34 pm, dpco  wrote:
> can you guys give me the definition of "s420" ?
> don c.

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[RBW] Pa Panniers Listing on CL - SF Bay Area

[CycloFiend]

Not mine, don't know the seller.
But, you don't see these offered up too often, so I thought I'd let the list
know:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1573829896.html

Rivendell Baggins Panniers - $150 (berkeley)
Date: 2010-01-27, 3:38PM PST

These were rarely used, about 5 years old I'd say. Just never carried that
much stuff.
Sorry I don't have a better picture, doing this at work and no net at home.
They are the Pa Panniers.
They are large.
They fasten with a stick!
Here's some pictures I found on the web, but keep in mind that mine are the
tan cotton like many other Baggins Bags, not the dark color.
I have all the original nylon cord that came with them. And the sticks of
course.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevelyan_bloomfield/3737655690/
http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/pa/
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc131-frankfulton0706.html

$150 or best offer.

Local Sale only. NOT SHIPPING.

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Jim Edgar
cyclofi...@earthlink.net

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